How can i become a more valuable member of this forum?

[dizmo]

6 hours ago, v0nn_toaster said:

Greetings!

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As im I'm nearing 1000 posts ive I've been wondering "hmm I'm not the best or rather helpful?" And When I post something it's usually badly done and bare. and Everyone who reads my trash probably wonders "how can I delete some else's account?"

 

And I don't want to stay like this forever, so please tell me how I can change! I want to make my 1000th post my best post ever. 

 

So tell me, how can i improve?

 

Any input is greatly appreciated!

Proper punctuation and grammar is a great place to start. It'll also help you out in life. I've corrected you're above post. Before you say "it's just a forum, it doesn't matter." It does. It'll trickle into your daily life, and unless you're doing very menial labor jobs, it's necessary.

 

Others have pointed out some obvious ones. If you're providing advice, know what you're talking about. Don't know the answer? Go look it up. There's nothing wrong with learning something yourself in the pursuit of helping others. If you're giving your opinion on something, make sure you express it as such, and not fact.

 

If you want people to take you more seriously, maybe change your location. 6969 Cool street screams "I'm in grade 7, take what I say with copious amounts of salt."

 

Every member of the community is valuable in one way or another. Except Patrick. That guy was an arrogant dick.

 

1 hour ago, spwath said:

I'm at over 17,000 posts and I'm not sure what I have done that is that valueable.

Hahaha, x2. As I approach 20k I wonder what exactly I've done with all that time.

Not a hell of a lot. Which is why 20k will mark an extremely drastic reduction in community involvement for me.

[LAwLz]

This is not really "how to be a good poster" as much as it is "how to not be a bad poster", but to me it seems like a lot of people post for the sake of posting, even if they have no new information or interesting take on something.

I think it's better to have 100 posts which are all high quality, helpful and insightful, than 1000 posts just saying "I agree", "I don't know" or just repeating what everyone else have already said (although in some cases repeating can be helpful). 

 

There is no shame in just reading a topic without responding to it. 

If you do, you might learn something and can contribute the next time the topic gets brought up.

[shiftberry]

Develop your knowledge about tech by watching videos, reading tech related articles and most of all do your own research by comparing hardware. See what people are asking about mostly and what of help you would be. Be resourceful and straight to the point.

 

Be confident and don't be ashamed of making mistakes, you are a learner! Since the inquiry triggered your mind, you are about to make serious decisions and resolutions to maintain your activity.

[Eduard the weeb]

14 hours ago, v0nn_toaster said:

And when i post something its usually badly done and bare. and everyone who reads my trash probably wonders "How can i delete some else account?"

why is my entire account summed up by this.

 

tbh I always have wondered whether or not I'm really that helpful or useful here, I wonder whether I have actually helped them with there problems and I would like to help them, but I honestly alot of the time don't know who, so I can sympathize with that.

[lewdicrous]

Pass the ritual.

[straight_stewie]

I will tell you that there is only one account which I have ever wished I could vote for deletion on. It is a rather new account but the person seems to contribute nothing and only shitpost. This person has also demonstrated an inability to abide by the Community Standards even after being informed of them by mods multiple times. (Don't ask who it is, I don't want to backseat moderate). I shouldn't complain too much though: I'm sure I've derailed my fair share of threads. So I guess my first piece of advice is "don't be that guy".

My second piece of advice would be: This forum has a WYSIWYG editor. It is pretty fully featured (although I wish that it had tables). Using it to properly format and edit your posts will make your posts more readable, and the more readable your posts are, the better people will be able to understand them. 

The third piece of advice would be to not be afraid of learning. I have learned many things from this forum, both from other people who already knew them, and from studying them for people who were asking questions about them. 

[JR88]

I don't know whoever has the most Post's wins. I don't know shitpost, throw out there what you have learned and or picked up over the years. 

I learned a lot in School, Programs that were all IT and very hardware like etc old school. So it's always educational. 

[wasab]

Don’t know but I will commemorate my 1,000th post with a post commerating that I posted my 1,000th post.

[EPENEX]

Just keep a good post count to rep ratio like me. Duh.

[WkdPaul]

On 3/22/2018 at 8:12 PM, v0nn_toaster said:

So tell me, how can i improve?

Stop thread dumping ... all your recent threads were posted in the General discussion section, that section isn't for troubleshooting problems or for asking questions about CPU, motherboards or GPU, we have sections for all of these.

 

BTW, I only replied because you asked, and that applies to everyone, not just you.

[Tog Driver]

On 3/22/2018 at 7:12 PM, v0nn_toaster said:

Greetings!

As im nearing 1000 posts ive been wondering "hmm I'm not the best or rather helpful" And when i post something its usually badly done and bare. and everyone who reads my trash probably wonders "How can i delete some else account?"

 

And i dont want to stay like this forever, so please tell me how i can change! I want to make my 1000th post my best post ever. 

 

So tell me, how can i improve?

 

Any input is greatly appreciated!

If you figure it out, please let me know, I don't know enough to be useful (thus the name) so all I do is lurk the Off Topic section.

 

and Moderators/Administrators/Important People: Please don't make people deleting others' accounts a feature, I rather enjoy being here.

[Syntaxvgm]

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How can i become a more valuable member of this forum?

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[DataStorm]

Hmmm, direct answers to direct questions...

 

Define first "valuable" in this context for yourself:

- Valuable to whom? LTT? the other members in general or those with technical or non-technical (!?!?) questions/problems/subjects etc?

- What value? Forum to become better by your posts, and in what way? Informative/helpful? fun? keeping discussions flowing?

- Role? is it some "badge" you're after?

 

In generic its just: think before you write something, has your point already been said, does your input alter other replies on a subject enough to warrant even posting? A lot can be chalked up onto "mindless noise". I've been there, I've been on forums where I've had over 20k replies.

The number doesn't mean any, it just means you've been this active on this forum for so much since you started.

 

So, only you can define what more valuable means. Each of the different answers you could make up for that has their own path to follow. The way the question was formed was more a hidden quest for making sure that the time you sunk into it was for some "use" to something is my guess. To that I can say: you could have used your time in other ways, so make sure that what triggered you for each of your next replies, is some you deem worthy of a reply.

[WoodenMarker]

2 hours ago, TheClueLessMajority said:

and Moderators/Administrators/Important People: Please don't make people deleting others' accounts a feature, I rather enjoy being here.

Feature is in playtesting 

 

[suchamoneypit]

On 3/22/2018 at 9:36 PM, Crunchy Dragon said:

My honest opinion would be to:

• Be a good member in general. Follow the rules.
• Be well-informed on what goes into your posts so you're not just typing what's possibly true or false, find out if it is.
• Do research on a topic you're passionate about, and help people with that topic whenever possible. For me, it's usually troubleshooting and build planning. Just some of the things I do well in.

There's probably a bit more than that, but that's all I can think of right now.

Couldn't have said it better myself. That's pretty much my exact philosophy.

[Tog Driver]

9 minutes ago, WoodenMarker said:

Feature is in playtesting 

 

the Banning game, I know it well, Let's hope it doesn't get implemented. . . 

And does ANYONE know where that thumbnail is coming from?

[Crunchy Dragon]

11 hours ago, TheClueLessMajority said:

the Banning game, I know it well, Let's hope it doesn't get implemented. . . 

And does ANYONE know where that thumbnail is coming from?

Isn't that @ARikozuM's old pfp in the back?

[ARikozuM]

7 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Isn't that @ARikozuM's old pfp in the back?

It is not. Mine olde was a modest “G” with “Grammar Nazi” written below. Also, we’re not measured by nor represented by carnal facades but by the merit of our treatises. 

[Windows7ge]

The best advice I can offer is educate yourself.

Find a question someone has and search it (Google, Bing, Yahoo, etc.). You'd be surprised how many people ask for help on the forum and a 5 second web search holds their answer. I mean, there's nothing inherently wrong with that but if you don't help yourself before looking to others then you're not really learning anything.

 

So when people have questions, search for an answer online. You'll learn things along the way and that's a meaningful 1000th post.

 

Except for when you give them the wrong answer and everyone on the forum pounces on you to let you know you were wrong. That's not a great 1000th post.

[Mira Yurizaki]

1 hour ago, Windows7ge said:

Except for when you give them the wrong answer and everyone on the forum pounces on you to let you know you were wrong.

I'd argue this is a huge issue. It's tempting to hit that quote button and go off on how knowledgeable you are on the subject. But is that really productive? If the topic is OP asking a question, answer the OP's question.

 

EDIT: Something of an example of what I mean

 

OP > I want to get this Brand X hard drive, is it good?

Person 1 > lol no, brand x sucks, always had a problem with them

Person 2 > [Quoted person 1] no, ur wrong, brand x is great

(cue the next dozen posts between Person 1 and 2 arguing why Brand X sucks or is good)

 

But if you really want to tell a person they're wrong, don't just tell them "you're wrong" and leave it at that. That's also not productive. Explain yourself. Also do so in a not-condescending manner please.

Edited March 28, 2018 by M.Yurizaki

[Windows7ge]

4 hours ago, M.Yurizaki said:

I'd argue this is a huge issue. It's tempting to hit that quote button and go off on how knowledgeable you are on the subject. But is that really productive? If the topic is OP asking a question, answer the OP's question.

 

But if you really want to tell a person they're wrong, don't just tell them "you're wrong" and leave it at that. That's also not productive. Explain yourself. Also do so in a not-condescending manner please.

The angle you're coming from is opinion based arguments. People disagreeing with other peoples opinions which I'm not on the forum often enough to see much of that but I have seen it just a little bit. For example like in a different topic not long ago someone wanted to pick up a programming language, any of them. You better bet that started a flame war and I think an Admin shut it down (locked) since OP's question was answered within the first page.

 

What I'm talking about is factual data. Providing misinformation about a piece of hardware, software, or service. I can use myself as an example. On more than one occasion I've provided inaccurate information to forum members about FreeNAS in how certain features and functions of the OS work such as how ZFS handles power failures, how it doesn't actually depend on ECC memory like I thought, and how 1GB of RAM per TB of storage is a complete misconception. Members who have corrected me include leadeater, Electronics Wizardry, and others who's names I don't recall.

 

Most of the people including the two above just explain to me that I'm wrong and inform me how it does work, it's a quick way of learning for OP & for me to give the correct answer the next time around. However there are MANY of the type of people who see your wrong answer and take it offensively like it's a personal insult to them and they just UNLEASH their frustration in you, adding no real useful information other than saying "You're wrong!". It's so childish and more than annoying. People like that get blacklisted.

[Mira Yurizaki]

9 minutes ago, Windows7ge said:

However there are MANY of the type of people who see your wrong answer and take it offensively like it's a personal insult to them and they just UNLEASH their frustration in you, adding no real useful information other than saying "You're wrong!". It's so childish and more than annoying. People like that get blacklisted.

If you do want to explain something factual to someone, then it works both ways as far as attitude goes. If you come off as snobby ("I'm an expert!", okay, cool story bro), personally attack the person ("omfg you're dumb"), or litter your post with strong language ("this is so fucking wrong"), then don't be surprised if people take offense.

 

Presenting a person's view of the world as wrong is stressful for that person no matter how open minded they claim to be, and being a dick about it isn't going to make it better.

 

(Also the usage of "you" is anyone in general, not specifically the person I quoted)

[Windows7ge]

4 hours ago, M.Yurizaki said:

Presenting a person's view of the world as wrong is stressful for that person no matter how open minded they claim to be, and being a dick about it isn't going to make it better.

The old phrase "If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all." could be adapted to suit this issue. "If you don't have anything helpful to say then don't say anything at all."

 

A similar phrase is "If you're not part of the solution, then you're part of the problem." This could be used to represent that if all you're doing is instigating an argument then don't say anything because it will ultimately lead to nothing.

 

Really if I provide misinformation and someone just tells me "You're wrong" particularly if they include vulgar language as if to make their point more apparent without adding any real information to back up their claim then I don't even bother replying because as I stated just a bit ago it goes nowhere. Those types of conversations never have good outcomes you'll walk away feeling worse than when you went in so just don't even go there/get involved.

[Mira Yurizaki]

1 minute ago, Windows7ge said:

Really if I provide misinformation and someone just tells me "You're wrong" particularly if they include vulgar language as if to make their point more apparent without adding any real information to back up their claim then I don't even bother replying because as I stated just a bit ago it goes nowhere. Those types of conversations never have good outcomes you'll walk away feeling worse than when you went in so just don't even go there/get involved.

At best I might take their reply into consideration after filtering the crap, but they don't really get a response. No matter what I do, acknowledging the person only reinforces the behavior.