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[Canada EH]

When you are using Windex to clean surfaces other then windows.

 

 

 

 

 

ocean fresh blue, sunshine lemon and citrus orange) and fragrances (spring bouquet, ocean mist, lavender and tea tree), with a number of additives such as vinegar, lemon, lime, or orange juice.

 

one of which is 4.0% isopropyl alcohol, 1% ethylene glycol monobutyl ether, 0.1% sodium lauryl sulfate (a surfactant), calcium (Ca) 0.01%, tetrasodium pyrophosphate (a water softener), 0.05% of 28% ammonia, 1% of a dye solution, and 0.01% perfume. This formula was not only inexpensive to manufacture but allowed the product to be packaged in glass bottles and dispensed with a plastic sprayer.^{[citation needed]} In 1989, Windex was a 5% ammonia solution.^[5] The product was reformulated in 2006.^[6] In 2009, S.C. Johnson started publishing ingredients for all of its products, including Windex.^[7] The S.C. Johnson website lists Windex's ingredients as water, 2-hexoxyethanol, isopropanolamine, sodium dodecylbenzene sulfonate, lauramine oxide, ammonium hydroxide, fragrance, and Liquitint sky blue dye.

 

 

 

 

 

 

https://autodeets.com/best-auto-glass-cleaner-reviews/

 

Invisible Glass Premium Glass Cleaner - to filmy

 

 

 

3M 08888 Glass Cleaner

[iDeFecZx]

4 minutes ago, Cereal5 said:

Is the down pipe stock? Cause aftermarket catted pipes are almost always more expensive than catless, for obvious reasons

Yea its stock

[dcgreen2k]

7 hours ago, Cereal5 said:

@thegreengamers How are you controlling what temp the engine starts at?

We've actually been getting a really consistent 50F ambient temp lately, and even if the starting temperature is different, I can shift the graphs so that they have the same starting temperature, since they're both creating heat at a constant rate until it levels out at 80C. All I'm really looking for is the slope of the graph created from the data, so it should be fine anyways.

[chaozbandit]

 

[MEC-777]

9 hours ago, terrytek said:

i really was dumbfounded by the fact that a car that new had such a backwards transmission technology. now the new ones have CVTs which idk is worse or better, but 4 speeds was definitely inadequate as hell. should've gone with the 6 speed stick.

 

i was still put off by the bland looks of the elantra, but this corolla definitely leaves a lot to be desired. the only thing that really separates it from run of the mill corollas were the 18 inch TRD wheels but even those seem like a dealer installed option.

CVT will be better, technically, but sound worse, lol. 

 

At the time I was looking (late 2012), that style of Elantra was all new from 2011 and IMO was one of the better-looking cars in that segment. I still like the way it looks 6 years later. The package pricing is what really did it for me though. None of the other manufacturer's dealers could offer me the features I wanted for even the sticker price of the Elantra GLS model. And then the Hyundai reduced that even more and threw in a full set of snow tires on steel rims to sweeten the deal.  

 

My only regret is a I should have gone with the hatchback instead, but they were a brand new model and more money at the time. 

[vetali]

was watching this:

 

 

 

and there was a blurb where he mentioned that Mazda killed off multi link rear suspension in favor of torsion beam. I really didn't believe it, and then I found this:

https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/2019-mazda-3-to-adopt-torsion-beam-rear-suspension-for-refinement-58696

 

All to allegedly reduce NVH, which I think is complete bullshit. The new Accord has multi link and has the least NVH of sub luxury sedans I've driven. The new Corolla hatch and Civics have adopted multi link, and I think the Hyundai offerings have as well. Essentially confirms to me that Mazda is slowly giving up on making good handling cars.

[Drak3]

11 hours ago, terrytek said:

now the new ones have CVTs which idk is worse or better

If set up to mimick an automatic transmition's gear shifts, they're definitely not better in any way. You lose the advantage that CVTs have.

 

Set up as originally intended, they're more efficient but most people agree that these CVTs are alot less fun to drive.

[bcredeur97]

46 minutes ago, vetali said:

was watching this:

-snip-

 

 

and there was a blurb where he mentioned that Mazda killed off multi link rear suspension in favor of torsion beam. I really didn't believe it, and then I found this:

https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/2019-mazda-3-to-adopt-torsion-beam-rear-suspension-for-refinement-58696

 

All to allegedly reduce NVH, which I think is complete bullshit. The new Accord has multi link and has the least NVH of sub luxury sedans I've driven. The new Corolla hatch and Civics have adopted multi link, and I think the Hyundai offerings have as well. Essentially confirms to me that Mazda is slowly giving up on making good handling cars.

It’s also cheaper to produce as well... I’m betting that factored in a lot too.

 

this stinks tho. They are usually known for making all their cars somewhat enjoyable to drive but I guess that’s dying. 

 

Along with laguna seca not being mazda branded anymore. Rip Mazda motorsports

 

at least we have the Miata still. How long is the question tho? They probably don’t make much money with it

[vetali]

26 minutes ago, bcredeur97 said:

at least we have the Miata still. How long is the question tho? They probably don’t make much money with it

Probably not past this generation. Shareholders are pressuring automakers to kill off or reduce production of non "SUVs". Toyota announced they are reducing sedan production, Honda likely will soon. 

[terrytek]

1 hour ago, vetali said:

Probably not past this generation. Shareholders are pressuring automakers to kill off or reduce production of non "SUVs". Toyota announced they are reducing sedan production, Honda likely will soon. 

fuck the shareholders. 

[Cereal5]

1 hour ago, vetali said:

Probably not past this generation. Shareholders are pressuring automakers to kill off or reduce production of non "SUVs". Toyota announced they are reducing sedan production, Honda likely will soon. 

Quite the opposite. With Ford discontinuing sales of most sedans by 2020, Toyota will likely do the same with their trucks, and possibly larger SUVs, there’s been talk about it IIRC, since in the US, Ford sells mostly larger vehicles, and Toyota sells mostly smaller, since the big 3 are the dominant forces in truck sales

 

edit: they discontinued single cab trucks

[terrytek]

7 minutes ago, Cereal5 said:

Quite the opposite. With Ford discontinuing sales of most sedans by 2020, Toyota will likely do the same with their trucks, and possibly larger SUVs, there’s been talk about it IIRC, since in the US, Ford sells mostly larger vehicles, and Toyota sells mostly smaller, since the big 3 are the dominant forces in truck sales

 

edit: they discontinued single cab trucks

wait since when were there talk toyota would discontinue some of their larger vehicles? they're almost like bread and butter here too, like they sell very well still. the tacoma seems very popular compared to other options, and the tundra is still a very capable truck despite lacking some things the big 3 have.

[vetali]

6 minutes ago, Cereal5 said:

Quite the opposite. With Ford discontinuing sales of most sedans by 2020, Toyota will likely do the same with their trucks, and possibly larger SUVs, there’s been talk about it IIRC, since in the US, Ford sells mostly larger vehicles, and Toyota sells mostly smaller, since the big 3 are the dominant forces in truck sales

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-15/toyota-slows-camry-production-as-u-s-demand-for-sedans-craters

 

and toyota is a strong brand for trucks as well. I can’t say anything about honda specifically until they do so publicly, but expect a huge shift in their production numbers. Cars will continue to taper off until the next gas crisis when manufacturers can market cars as fuel efficient, despite them not being significantly more efficient than the crossover brethren. 

[Cereal5]

Crossovers *shudders* 

 

Hm. Must have just been speculation I read about then, but the Ford piece is true. Just imagine a world without the Taurus SHO. Someone’s gotta fill the gap for sedans and it sure as hell won’t be GM or FCA lol

[vetali]

2 minutes ago, Cereal5 said:

Crossovers *shudders* 

 

Hm. Must have just been speculation I read about then, but the Ford piece is true. Just imagine a world without the Taurus SHO. Someone’s gotta fill the gap for sedans and it sure as hell won’t be GM or FCA lol

GM and FCA are getting pressure from shareholders to pull out of sedans too. GM being more resilient, with Fiat highly likely to stop selling their cars in North America. Thank god. 

 

I’d expect a ceo changeup at GM soon. Their trucks are keeping them afloat. The 19 silverados have been met with very mixed reactions to the point where GM is rumored to sell the 18s and 19s side by side next year

[Guest]

33 minutes ago, Cereal5 said:

Quite the opposite. With Ford discontinuing sales of most sedans by 2020, Toyota will likely do the same with their trucks, and possibly larger SUVs, there’s been talk about it IIRC, since in the US, Ford sells mostly larger vehicles, and Toyota sells mostly smaller, since the big 3 are the dominant forces in truck sales

 

edit: they discontinued single cab trucks

Doubt it, maybe in the US, but the larger Toyotas sell pretty well. 

[bcredeur97]

53 minutes ago, terrytek said:

fuck the shareholders. 

ppl want to make money. money > everything else

 

even fun, apparently.

[terrytek]

23 minutes ago, bcredeur97 said:

ppl want to make money. money > everything else

 

even fun, apparently.

so it's basically greedy rich fucks that are ruining the car industry for us.

[FuzzyYellow]

1 minute ago, terrytek said:

so it's basically greedy rich fucks that are ruining the car industry for us.

no, it's basically most people don't want, and therefore buy the things that you want, so manufacturers have no incentive to make them. 

 

 

if you want sports cars to stay around, they need to bought in high numbers, brand new. that's how it works.

 

 

It's really entitled to think that car manufacturers owe you fun cars. they don't owe you squat. want a fun car? make it worth their time and money to develop. 

[Cereal5]

54 minutes ago, RorzNZ said:

Doubt it, maybe in the US, but the larger Toyotas sell pretty well. 

Yeah this is all USDM

20 minutes ago, terrytek said:

so it's basically greedy rich fucks that are ruining the car industry for us.

Yeah pretty much. That’s probably why Toyota was out of the performance car industry for so long. Only took them 20 years to bring a successor to the Supra around (in the US, less in Japan), and even then it was just a concept. 

[Bananasplit_00]

So after 8h on the road, we finally got my friends 1989 Honda CB600F home! Now he has a bike too, just in time for the ice to get to its worst

 

It's rebuilt into a steetfighter thing kinda meh, it's a bit of a 10 meter job really, but mechanically it was good.

 

Cost ~€1100 which is quire a bit but he wanted a bike and was pretty picky with it. Its hard to find a four cylinder, veteran, and A2 registered bike

 

Il put up a picture once I have one

[vetali]

1 hour ago, FuzzyYellow said:

if you want sports cars to stay around, they need to bought in high numbers, brand new. that's how it works.

 

Yep. 

 

 

 

look at point 2 specifically. 

[Guest]

Rain hides all the scratches lol. Need to fix the clear coat so badly, but i'm getting onto it. Feat my old Toyota Echo, which has been passed to another family member. Rockford Fosgate component and co-axials coming soon. Very excited. Putting in some sound deadener too soon and a Soundstream amplifier. If I win the auctions I guess. 

[bcredeur97]

 

[PandaCopyRight]

On 11/18/2018 at 7:36 AM, terrytek said:

you saying you have a 6 speed auto makes you sound spoiled compared to my 2010 corolla 4 speed has absolutely no pep at all

On 11/18/2018 at 7:59 AM, Cereal5 said:

4 speeds in 2010 lol I didn't think that was a thing

On 11/18/2018 at 8:53 AM, MEC-777 said:

Yeah, that was one of the selling points when I was doing research at the time. It's a 2013. The Corolla even then was still a 4 speed.  

Subaru also used a 4 speed auto untill like 2013 ... in the Forester

while they had a 5 speed in the Legacy since like 2003

 

All i can say ... from the line it goes quick for being just an FB20 in not that light of a vehicle ... just not the best on the highway ...