Posted February 10, 2017 Source: http://www.anandtech.com/show/11115/intel-confirms-8th-gen-core-on-14nm-data-center-first-to-new-nodes Quote A quick news piece on information coming out of Intel’s annual Investor Day in California. As confirmed to Ashraf Eassa by Intel at the event, Intel’s 8th Generation Core microarchitecture will remain on the 14nm node. This is an interesting development with the recent launch of Intel’s 7th Generation Core products being touted as the ‘optimization’ behind the new ‘Process-Architecture-Optimization’ three-stage cadence that had replaced the old ‘tick-tock’ cadence. With Intel stringing out 14nm (or at least, an improved variant of 14nm as we’ve seen on 7th Gen) for another generation, it makes us wonder where exactly Intel can promise future performance or efficiency gains on the design unless they start implementing microarchitecture changes. Quote Despite this, if you were to believe supposed ‘leaked’ roadmaps (which we haven’t confirmed from a second source as of yet), the 8th Generation product ‘Cannon Lake’ is more geared towards the Y and U part of Intel’s roadmap. This would ring true with a mobile first strategy that Intel has mirrored with recent generations such that the smaller, low power chips are off the production line for a new product first, however we'd also expect 10nm to also be in the smaller chips first too (as demonstrated at CES). Where Cannon Lake will end up in the desktop or enterprise segment however remains to be seen. So this is interesting... We thought that Intel was simply transitioning from Product-Architecture-Optimization from the traditional tick-tock cycle, but now we're gonna be on 14nm for 4 full generations. This was definitely unexpected and leaves us wondering how much difficulty Intel is going through for 10nm. As well, it also leaves us wondering if we won't be seeing Cannonlake for consumers until 2019. Intel keeps touting that they're 14nm process is superior to competitors 14nm and 16nm processors and is on par with competing 10nm processes, but if Intel keeps delaying then others may be on 7nm when Intel is on 10nm, etc. What exactly will happen though still remains to be seen. Make sure to quote me or tag me when responding to me, or I might not know you replied! Examples: Do this: Quote And make sure you do it by hitting the quote button at the bottom left of my post, and not the one inside the editor! Or this: @DocSwag Buy whatever product is best for you, not what product is "best" for the market. Interested in computer architecture? Still in middle or high school? P.M. me! I love computer hardware and feel free to ask me anything about that (or phones). I especially like SSDs. But please do not ask me anything about Networking, programming, command line stuff, or any relatively hard software stuff. I know next to nothing about that. Compooters: Spoiler Desktop: Spoiler CPU: i7 6700k, CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3, Motherboard: MSI Z170a KRAIT GAMING, RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 4x4gb DDR4-2666 MHz, Storage: SanDisk SSD Plus 240gb + OCZ Vertex 180 480 GB + Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 7200 RPM, Video Card: EVGA GTX 970 SSC, Case: Fractal Design Define S, Power Supply: Seasonic Focus+ Gold 650w Yay, Keyboard: Logitech G710+, Mouse: Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum, Headphones: B&O H9i, Monitor: LG 29um67 (2560x1080 75hz freesync) Home Server: Spoiler CPU: Pentium G4400, CPU Cooler: Stock, Motherboard: MSI h110l Pro Mini AC, RAM: Hyper X Fury DDR4 1x8gb 2133 MHz, Storage: PNY CS1311 120gb SSD + two Segate 4tb HDDs in RAID 1, Video Card: Does Intel Integrated Graphics count?, Case: Fractal Design Node 304, Power Supply: Seasonic 360w 80+ Gold, Keyboard+Mouse+Monitor: Does it matter? Laptop (I use it for school): Spoiler Surface book 2 13" with an i7 8650u, 8gb RAM, 256 GB storage, and a GTX 1050 And if you're curious (or a stalker) I have a Just Black Pixel 2 XL 64gb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 10, 2017 amd pls Snorlax: i7 5820k @4.5ghz, Asus X99 Pro, 32gb Corsair Vengeance LPX 2666, Cryorig R1 Ultimate, Samsung 850 evo 500gb, Asus GTX 1080 ROG Strix, Corsair RM850x, NZXT H440, Hue+ Smallsnor: Huawei Matebook X Canon AE-1 w/ 50mm f/1.8 lens Pentax KM w/ 55mm f/1.8 SMC lens Zenit-E w/ 58mm f/2 Helios lens Panasonic G7 with 14-42mm f/3.5 lens Polaroid Spectra System Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 10, 2017 What does that change for Coffee Lake MSI GE72 Apache Pro-242 - (5700HQ : 970M : 16gb RAM : 17.3" : Win10 : 1TB HDD : Razer Anansi : Some mouse) - hooked up to a 34UM58-P (WFHD) in dual screen iPad Air 2 (for school) iPhone 6 Xbox One Forza 6 Limited Edition Blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 10, 2017 Author 1 minute ago, shadowbyte said: amd pls Zen is 14nm tho Zen+ maybe in 2018 on 10nm? Make sure to quote me or tag me when responding to me, or I might not know you replied! Examples: Do this: Quote And make sure you do it by hitting the quote button at the bottom left of my post, and not the one inside the editor! Or this: @DocSwag Buy whatever product is best for you, not what product is "best" for the market. Interested in computer architecture? Still in middle or high school? P.M. me! I love computer hardware and feel free to ask me anything about that (or phones). I especially like SSDs. But please do not ask me anything about Networking, programming, command line stuff, or any relatively hard software stuff. I know next to nothing about that. Compooters: Spoiler Desktop: Spoiler CPU: i7 6700k, CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3, Motherboard: MSI Z170a KRAIT GAMING, RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 4x4gb DDR4-2666 MHz, Storage: SanDisk SSD Plus 240gb + OCZ Vertex 180 480 GB + Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 7200 RPM, Video Card: EVGA GTX 970 SSC, Case: Fractal Design Define S, Power Supply: Seasonic Focus+ Gold 650w Yay, Keyboard: Logitech G710+, Mouse: Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum, Headphones: B&O H9i, Monitor: LG 29um67 (2560x1080 75hz freesync) Home Server: Spoiler CPU: Pentium G4400, CPU Cooler: Stock, Motherboard: MSI h110l Pro Mini AC, RAM: Hyper X Fury DDR4 1x8gb 2133 MHz, Storage: PNY CS1311 120gb SSD + two Segate 4tb HDDs in RAID 1, Video Card: Does Intel Integrated Graphics count?, Case: Fractal Design Node 304, Power Supply: Seasonic 360w 80+ Gold, Keyboard+Mouse+Monitor: Does it matter? Laptop (I use it for school): Spoiler Surface book 2 13" with an i7 8650u, 8gb RAM, 256 GB storage, and a GTX 1050 And if you're curious (or a stalker) I have a Just Black Pixel 2 XL 64gb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 10, 2017 1 minute ago, DocSwag said: Zen is 14nm tho Zen+ maybe in 2018 on 10nm? hopefully Snorlax: i7 5820k @4.5ghz, Asus X99 Pro, 32gb Corsair Vengeance LPX 2666, Cryorig R1 Ultimate, Samsung 850 evo 500gb, Asus GTX 1080 ROG Strix, Corsair RM850x, NZXT H440, Hue+ Smallsnor: Huawei Matebook X Canon AE-1 w/ 50mm f/1.8 lens Pentax KM w/ 55mm f/1.8 SMC lens Zenit-E w/ 58mm f/2 Helios lens Panasonic G7 with 14-42mm f/3.5 lens Polaroid Spectra System Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 10, 2017 Author 1 minute ago, Trav_X said: What does that change for Coffee Lake Coffee Lake wasn't really confirmed before this. Just a rumor. Now I guess it's something that's real... Make sure to quote me or tag me when responding to me, or I might not know you replied! Examples: Do this: Quote And make sure you do it by hitting the quote button at the bottom left of my post, and not the one inside the editor! Or this: @DocSwag Buy whatever product is best for you, not what product is "best" for the market. Interested in computer architecture? Still in middle or high school? P.M. me! I love computer hardware and feel free to ask me anything about that (or phones). I especially like SSDs. But please do not ask me anything about Networking, programming, command line stuff, or any relatively hard software stuff. I know next to nothing about that. Compooters: Spoiler Desktop: Spoiler CPU: i7 6700k, CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3, Motherboard: MSI Z170a KRAIT GAMING, RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 4x4gb DDR4-2666 MHz, Storage: SanDisk SSD Plus 240gb + OCZ Vertex 180 480 GB + Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 7200 RPM, Video Card: EVGA GTX 970 SSC, Case: Fractal Design Define S, Power Supply: Seasonic Focus+ Gold 650w Yay, Keyboard: Logitech G710+, Mouse: Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum, Headphones: B&O H9i, Monitor: LG 29um67 (2560x1080 75hz freesync) Home Server: Spoiler CPU: Pentium G4400, CPU Cooler: Stock, Motherboard: MSI h110l Pro Mini AC, RAM: Hyper X Fury DDR4 1x8gb 2133 MHz, Storage: PNY CS1311 120gb SSD + two Segate 4tb HDDs in RAID 1, Video Card: Does Intel Integrated Graphics count?, Case: Fractal Design Node 304, Power Supply: Seasonic 360w 80+ Gold, Keyboard+Mouse+Monitor: Does it matter? Laptop (I use it for school): Spoiler Surface book 2 13" with an i7 8650u, 8gb RAM, 256 GB storage, and a GTX 1050 And if you're curious (or a stalker) I have a Just Black Pixel 2 XL 64gb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 10, 2017 5 minutes ago, shadowbyte said: amd pls It's also in Intel's best interest to get smaller nodes as that means cheaper production costs. PSU Tier List | CoC Gaming Build | FreeNAS Server Spoiler i5-4690k || Seidon 240m || GTX780 ACX || MSI Z97s SLI Plus || 8GB 2400mhz || 250GB 840 Evo || 1TB WD Blue || H440 (Black/Blue) || Windows 10 Pro || Dell P2414H & BenQ XL2411Z || Ducky Shine Mini || Logitech G502 Proteus Core Spoiler FreeNAS 9.3 - Stable || Xeon E3 1230v2 || Supermicro X9SCM-F || 32GB Crucial ECC DDR3 || 3x4TB WD Red (JBOD) || SYBA SI-PEX40064 sata controller || Corsair CX500m || NZXT Source 210. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 10, 2017 But didn't we know this already since they moved away from the Tick Tock cycle? Spoiler Cpu: Ryzen 9 3900X – Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 Aorus Pro Wifi – RAM: 4 x 16 GB G. Skill Trident Z @ 3200mhz- GPU: ASUS Strix Geforce GTX 1080ti– Case: Phankteks Enthoo Pro M – Storage: 500GB Samsung 960 Evo, 1TB Intel 800p, Samsung 850 Evo 500GB & WD Blue 1 TB PSU: EVGA 1000P2– Display(s): ASUS PB238Q, AOC 4k, Korean 1440p 144hz Monitor - Cooling: NH-U12S, 2 gentle typhoons and 3 noiseblocker eloops – Keyboard: Corsair K95 Platinum RGB Mouse: G502 Rgb & G Pro Wireless– Sound: Logitech z623 & AKG K240 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 10, 2017 14 minutes ago, DocSwag said: Coffee Lake wasn't really confirmed before this. Just a rumor. Now I guess it's something that's real... But Intel had Coffee Lake on their official roadmap like, 4-5 months ago. We also knew that it wasn't going to be 10nm either, because of the low yields (Cannonlake will be 10nm, but only for mobile). Even it's wikipedia page stated this ever since October. While it's nice to have a legitimate confirmation, it shouldn't really surprise anyone given how long this information has been circulating (and with Intel themselves mentioning their departure from the standard tick-tock formula in favor of process-architecture-optimization/refinement) My (incomplete) memory overclocking guide: Does memory speed impact gaming performance? Click here to find out! On 1/2/2017 at 9:32 PM, MageTank said: Sometimes, we all need a little inspiration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 10, 2017 I wonder if they had reliability issues with the smaller size. Might need more time to perfect. Also, are they just not going to use any TIM this time? Seems like something they would do... Donate your unused computer resources for cancer and other research. For Zinsey ❤ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 10, 2017 7 minutes ago, MageTank said: But Intel had Coffee Lake on their official roadmap like, 4-5 months ago. We also knew that it wasn't going to be 10nm either, because of the low yields (Cannonlake will be 10nm, but only for mobile). Even it's wikipedia page stated this ever since October. While it's nice to have a legitimate confirmation, it shouldn't really surprise anyone given how long this information has been circulating (and with Intel themselves mentioning their departure from the standard tick-tock formula in favor of process-architecture-optimization/refinement) just image one day we might have an i7 in something like a raspberry pi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 10, 2017 Tick-Tock-Cock-Flop Insert ram related question here: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1197132-setting-ram-speed-xmp-docp-for-dummies/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 10, 2017 41 minutes ago, DocSwag said: Zen is 14nm tho Zen+ maybe in 2018 on 10nm? Thought AMD/Global Foundries was going to try for a jump to 7nm and skip 10nm. Didn't they pickup assets to do so from IBM a while ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 10, 2017 21 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said: just image one day we might have an i7 in something like a raspberry pi. crazy right, soon rpi can run crysis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 10, 2017 Ew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Trav_X said: What does that change for Coffee Lake Decaf Lake? Cor Caeruleus Reborn v6 Spoiler CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K CPU Cooler: be quiet! - PURE ROCK Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver - 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste Motherboard: ASRock Z370 Extreme4 Memory: G.Skill TridentZ RGB 2x8GB 3200/14 Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive Storage: Western Digital - Blue 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive Storage: Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Video Card: EVGA - 970 SSC ACX (1080 is in RMA) Case: Fractal Design - Define R5 w/Window (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA P2 750W with CableMod blue/black Pro Series Optical Drive: LG - WH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit and Linux Mint Serena Keyboard: Logitech - G910 Orion Spectrum RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard Mouse: Logitech - G502 Wired Optical Mouse Headphones: Logitech - G430 7.1 Channel Headset Speakers: Logitech - Z506 155W 5.1ch Speakers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 10, 2017 9 minutes ago, ARikozuM said: Decaf Lake? Those will be the non overclockable ones Donate your unused computer resources for cancer and other research. For Zinsey ❤ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 10, 2017 My next build will be a Coffee Lake machine, nothing is is better than a super optimised process node. The 14nm node sounds perfect. A super optimised 7nm node will be half a decade away probably! Main System - 2016 13"nTB MBP 256GB Gaming Rig - 4790K, 16GB RAM, 1080TiMonitor - Dell 25" U2515H K/B & M - Ducky One TKL, Logitech MX Master & G900 Audio - JDS Labs The Element, Aktimate Mini B+, Krix Seismix 3 Mk6, Ultrasone Pro 900 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 10, 2017 They're already planning to start the 7nm fab. So. Clearly it's on it's way. I wonder if Samsung or Intel will get there first. TSMC is already well on their way to 7nm production. 8 minutes ago, Qwertious said: My next build will be a Coffee Lake machine, nothing is is better than a super optimised process node. The 14nm node sounds perfect. A super optimised 7nm node will be half a decade away probably! Half a decade isn't a long time CPU: Ryzen 9 5900 Cooler: EVGA CLC280 Motherboard: Gigabyte B550i Pro AX RAM: Kingston Hyper X 32GB 3200mhz Storage: WD 750 SE 500GB, WD 730 SE 1TB GPU: EVGA RTX 3070 Ti PSU: Corsair SF750 Case: Streacom DA2 Monitor: LG 27GL83B Mouse: Razer Basilisk V2 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red Speakers: Mackie CR5BT MiniPC - Sold for $100 Profit Spoiler CPU: Intel i3 4160 Cooler: Integrated Motherboard: Integrated RAM: G.Skill RipJaws 16GB DDR3 Storage: Transcend MSA370 128GB GPU: Intel 4400 Graphics PSU: Integrated Case: Shuttle XPC Slim Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red Budget Rig 1 - Sold For $750 Profit Spoiler CPU: Intel i5 7600k Cooler: CryOrig H7 Motherboard: MSI Z270 M5 RAM: Crucial LPX 16GB DDR4 Storage: Intel S3510 800GB GPU: Nvidia GTX 980 PSU: Corsair CX650M Case: EVGA DG73 Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red OG Gaming Rig - Gone Spoiler CPU: Intel i5 4690k Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 Motherboard: MSI Z97i AC ITX RAM: Crucial Ballistix 16GB DDR3 Storage: Kingston Fury 240GB GPU: Asus Strix GTX 970 PSU: Thermaltake TR2 Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX Monitor: Dell P2214H x2 Mouse: Logitech MX Master Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 10, 2017 12 minutes ago, dizmo said: They're already planning to start the 7nm fab. So. Clearly it's on it's way. I wonder if Samsung or Intel will get there first. TSMC is already well on their way to 7nm production. Half a decade isn't a long time Isn't TSMC/GFs 16nm/14nm more like Intel's 22nm~? PSU Tier List | CoC Gaming Build | FreeNAS Server Spoiler i5-4690k || Seidon 240m || GTX780 ACX || MSI Z97s SLI Plus || 8GB 2400mhz || 250GB 840 Evo || 1TB WD Blue || H440 (Black/Blue) || Windows 10 Pro || Dell P2414H & BenQ XL2411Z || Ducky Shine Mini || Logitech G502 Proteus Core Spoiler FreeNAS 9.3 - Stable || Xeon E3 1230v2 || Supermicro X9SCM-F || 32GB Crucial ECC DDR3 || 3x4TB WD Red (JBOD) || SYBA SI-PEX40064 sata controller || Corsair CX500m || NZXT Source 210. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 10, 2017 Remember when AMD basically sat on their butt for 4 years on the consumer CPU market and everyone bitched at them because they made no improvements to their processors? That's basically what Intel is doing here. Skylake was the introduction, like bulldozer (only it didnt suck as far as IPC goes but hear me out), Kaby lake is is Piledriver, some improvements but eh. And then cannon lake will be like the 9590 from AMD. I seriously do not imagine that while on the same node, cannon lake will offer much in terms of IPC improvements or efficiency. It might offer a new feature or two and maybe 1% IPC improvement but that's it. Everyone should raise up their pitchforks to intel like they did AMD. Do you even fanboy bro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 10, 2017 2 hours ago, djdwosk97 said: It's also in Intel's best interest to get smaller nodes as that means cheaper production costs. It may cost less in terms of silicon/chip but it means investing billions of dollars in new fabs and fab equipment. Just yesterday intel announced it will spend 7 billion dollars on one fab to make it 7nm-ready. Corsair 600T | Intel Core i7-4770K @ 4.5GHz | Samsung SSD Evo 970 1TB | MS Windows 10 | Samsung CF791 34" | 16GB 1600 MHz Kingston DDR3 HyperX | ASUS Formula VI | Corsair H110 | Corsair AX1200i | ASUS Strix Vega 56 8GB | Internet http://beta.speedtest.net/result/4365368180 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, Terodius said: It may cost less in terms of silicon/chip but it means investing billions of dollars in new fabs and fab equipment. Just yesterday intel announced it will spend 7 billion dollars on one fab to make it 7nm-ready. Intel earned a record 56 billion with a net income of 11.2 billion in 2015 or something. I really don't think Intel spending 7 billion is an issue at all. If anything, them spending 7 billion means some 7 nm process at least works in some regards. They wouldnt spend money upgrading to 7 nm if the node didn't work. Intel is just sitting on their butt with the consumer CPU market until 7 nm, which isn't okay at all. Do you even fanboy bro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 10, 2017 42 minutes ago, Liltrekkie said: Intel earned a record 56 billion with a net income of 11.2 billion in 2015 or something. I really don't think Intel spending 7 billion is an issue at all. If anything, them spending 7 billion means some 7 nm process at least works in some regards. They wouldnt spend money upgrading to 7 nm if the node didn't work. Intel is just sitting on their butt with the consumer CPU market until 7 nm, which isn't okay at all. Except that 7 billion is for just one fab, and they have multiple ones making chips for every node. doesn't matter if you're intel or apple, 7 billion dollars is A LOT of money and that cost plus the billions of R&D that go into figuring out how to scale out the process plus the billions of R&D just for making the micro-architecture are a lot of upfront costs. I It's an investment that they factor into the costs of their chips. That's why we pay 300 USD for a piece of silicon that costs 20 USD in materials to make, because there's a median of like 100-150USD worth of R&D and infrastructure amortization in each CPU they sell and the rest is profit. Corsair 600T | Intel Core i7-4770K @ 4.5GHz | Samsung SSD Evo 970 1TB | MS Windows 10 | Samsung CF791 34" | 16GB 1600 MHz Kingston DDR3 HyperX | ASUS Formula VI | Corsair H110 | Corsair AX1200i | ASUS Strix Vega 56 8GB | Internet http://beta.speedtest.net/result/4365368180 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 10, 2017 4 hours ago, DocSwag said: Zen is 14nm tho Zen+ maybe in 2018 on 10nm? they are "working" on 7nm , so theres hope RyzenAir : AMD R5 3600 | AsRock AB350M Pro4 | 32gb Aegis DDR4 3000 | GTX 1070 FE | Fractal Design Node 804 RyzenITX : Ryzen 7 1700 | GA-AB350N-Gaming WIFI | 16gb DDR4 2666 | GTX 1060 | Cougar QBX PSU Tier list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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