PSU Tier List [OLD]

[STRMfrmXMN]

33 minutes ago, ATFink said:

Last time I checked the cx550m and masterwatt 550 were selling for about the same price.

 

Which one is quieter and/or more reliable? IIRC the masterwatt 550 uses an LDB bearing and the cx550m uses a rifle bearing, but I'm not terribly familiar with fluid dynamic bearings so that doesn't mean much to me. I can't quickly find a good review of the cx550m (only the cx750m, but it may be a different platform than the cx550m, I don't know). Are there miscellaneous aspects about these units I should be aware of?

 

Are there better units for similar prices (US) right now?

 

I'm not building anything, this is just a question out of curiosity since I like keeping updated PCPartPicker lists.

The CX550M has a sleeve btw.

 

Both are fine. Whichever is cheaper is the better to have. I'd probably take the CM.

[turkey3_scratch]

22 hours ago, awesomegamer919 said:

Whilst I am unsure of the situation now, especially with the resurgence of mining, for a while Jeremy did not want to test OPP/OCP on many PSUs as it could potentially damage his equipment and he was not in a situation where he could replace it.

Jeremy announced he'll be retiring from reviewing in some coming months. So we probably won't ever see that testing on Jonnyguru.

[LienusLateTips]

#BumpTheG3

[STRMfrmXMN]

4 minutes ago, JDE said:

#BumpTheG3

You saw what I did to it right

[LienusLateTips]

17 minutes ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

You saw what I did to it right

Yeah, but it failed OPP, I think it deserves a bump

[STRMfrmXMN]

6 minutes ago, JDE said:

Yeah, but it failed OPP, I think it deserves a bump

By a single reviewer tho

[awesomegamer919]

26 minutes ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

By a single reviewer tho

As I noted earlier, one died under OPP, one went out of spec on OCP/OPP and the other passed, but had really dodgy OTP

[Guest]

5 hours ago, turkey3_scratch said:

Jeremy announced he'll be retiring from reviewing in some coming months. So we probably won't ever see that testing on Jonnyguru.

Nah.. Just need to find a reviewer that's committed to testing AND repairing the test equipment.

 

[awesomegamer919]

On 5/31/2018 at 3:01 AM, Biggerboot said:

If you're comparing it to the green labelled ones, it's a significant improvement.  I haven't heard coil whine on any of the new CX units myself. 

Coil whine can also happen on any PSU.  Some people are more sensitive to it than others, so it can go unreported a lot.  But I do think it was more common on the legacy CX/CS units.

I have a CX650 in my dads machine and it has coil whine, luckily he can't here or so it's not an issue (the old Tagan unit that it replaced had insane coil whine!)

[Dabombinable]

Ok. The Antec EAG650 Pro makes a CX850M feel light, and my VS650 feel like it will blow away at the slightest breeze. Damn its heavy.

 

Edit: Just an FYI to anyone looking to buy one, there is 1x molex connector at the base of the peripheral connector cables, so its might not be a good option for some people despite where it sits on the list. There is also no rubber grommet around the 24pin ATX and 8pin EPS cables as they exit the chassis.

 

Edit 2: And 1x of the PCIe 2x 6+2 cables is hard wired.

[LawlBot]

On 7/22/2016 at 10:44 PM, STRMfrmXMN said:

Credit to @Starelementpokeand @Energycore for helping out with this long-awaited refresh of the old PSU tier list by Aniallation (who previously went several months without logging in), leaving the old list in need of help. This is simply an update of the list that was flawed in creation by the PCMR subreddit and in dire need of a refresh.

 

This list is subject to change as new PSUs come out on a regular basis and standards may change or issues with units on the list may develop. A list of PSUs awaiting a tier on this list is at the bottom.

 

Tier 1 - Best

• Aerocool - Project 7
• Antec - High Current Pro, High Current Platinum
• be Quiet! - Dark Power Pro P10, Dark Power Pro 11, Straight Power 11
• Bitfenix - Whisper
• Cooler Master - V-series (modular, not to be confused with the VSM), MasterWatt Maker
• Corsair - AX, AXi, HXi, RMi, RMx, SF, grey-label HX (2017), 2017 TXM greater than 650W
• Enermax - Platimax, Platimax Digifanless
• EVGA - G2, P2, PS, T2, 1000G1, 850W and above GS, G3 is on hiatus right now as current reviews are indicative of poor implementation of protections
• FSP - Aurum PT
• LEPA - G1600
• NZXT Hale90V2
• Riotoro - Enigma
• Seasonic - X, Platinum, Snow Silent, all Fanless units, Prime, Focus Plus Gold/Platinum
• Sentey - Platinum Power, Golden Steel Power
• Silverstone - Nightjar
• Super Flower - Leadex Gold/Platinum/Titanium, Leadex II
• Thermaltake - 1250D-T RGB, Toughpower Grand/RGB 1200W
• XFX - Pro Gold, Pro Black, XTS

Tier 2

• Antec - EDGE, TruePower Classic, EarthWatts Gold Pro
• Azza - Platinum
• be Quiet! - Pure Power 10 400W or greater
• Cooler Master - VSM-series (semi-modular), MasterWatt (non-Lite, non-Maker)
• Corsair - Most RM variants, HX (old), 550W/650W 2017 TXM, Vengeance
• Enermax - Digifanless, RG, GX
• EVGA - GQ, B2, 550W and 650W GS, GD
• Fractal Design - Edison M, Tesla R2 650W/1000W, Newton R3
• FSP - Hydro G, Dagger SFX
• Gigabyte - XP1200M
• Kolink - Continuum
• NZXT - Hale82 N higher-wattage versions
• Rosewill - Quark, Fortress, Capstone
• Seasonic - S12G, G-series/SSRM, M12II 750W/850W
• Sentey - Solid Power SS
• Silverstone - Strider Platinum
• Super Flower - Golden Green, Leadex Silver
• Thermaltake - Toughpower Grand/RGB, Toughpower Grand Platinum, Toughpower DPS Platinum
• XFX -  Pro XXX, XTR, TS Gold

Tier 3

• Antec - Neo ECO II
• be Quiet! - Straight Power E10
• Bitfenix - Fury 
• Corsair - 2017 "Grey unit" CXM***, CSM, some RM variants, 2017 CX - 450W CX have one PCIe connection
• Cougar - GX-S
• Deepcool - DQ-ST
• Enermax -  Enermax Revolution SFX 650W***
• EVGA -  BQ 750W and up
• Fractal Design - Tesla R2, Integra M
• FSP - Hydro X, Aurum CM, Aurum Pro
• Lian Li - SFX-L
• LEPA - G600
• NZXT - Hale82 N lower-wattage units
• OCZ - ZX
• PC Power & Cooling - Silencer Mk III, Turbo Cool
• Riotoro - Onyx
• Rosewill - Lightning, Silent Night, Tachyon, Photon
• Silverstone - Gold Evolution, Strider Gold, SX650/700/800 SFX, Strider Titanium
• Super Flower - Platinum King
• Thermaltake - DPS Gold/RGB, London, BlueEvo 2.0, Smart Pro RGB, Smart series >= 750W
• Vivo - 24K 650W
• XFX - Core > 650W, ProSeries Bronze >650W, TS Bronze
• Zalman - EBT

Tier 4

• Antec - EarthWatts/EA Green, Earthwatts Platinum, High Current Gamer, Neo Eco 
• be Quiet! - Power Zone, Pure Power L9, Straight Power E9, Pure Power L8
• Corsair - Old CXM "Green unit" variants, Rev. 3 "Green unit" variants, GS-series
• Cooler Master - GM, GX Storm
• Cougar - LX
• Enermax - Revolution X't
• EVGA - BQ under 750W, NEX Gold
• Fractal Design - Tesla R2 500W
• Inwin - Classic Series
• Rosewill - Capstone G
• Seasonic - SS, SSP, S12II/M12II, ECO 430W
• Silverstone - Strider Plus, Gold SFX
• Thermaltake - Toughpower Gold, Paris

Tier 5

• Antec - Basiq VP-F, Basiq BP
• be Quiet! - Pure Power 10 under 400W.
• Corsair - Rev. 2 CX "Green unit" variants, VS "grey units"
• Enermax - NaXn 82+
• EVGA - 450B/500B/600B/700B, NEX-B, B3
• OCZ - ZT, ModXStream
• Rosewill - Glacier
• Silverstone - Bronze SFX
• XFX - XT

Tier 6

• Antec - Basiq VP
• Bitfenix - BPA
• Cooler Master - B2
• Corsair - VS "orange units"
• EVGA - 430W/500W/600W 80 PLUS units
• FSP - Raider Silver
• Fractal Design - Integra R2
• LEPA - MX-F1
• NZXT - Hale82 V2
• OCZ - Fatal1ty
• Rosewill - Hive, ARC (M)
• Silverstone - Strider Essential
• Thermaltake - LitePower, ToughPower, Smart series < 750W
• Zalman - GS/GT

Tier 7 - Worst

• Cooler Master - Elite series
• EVGA - 400W non-80 PLUS certified
• FSP - Hexa
• Thermaltake - TR2
• These are all crap

 

Currently awaiting more info

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FirePower/OCZ/PC Power & Cooling

Raidmax, LEPA, ETC lesser brands

New Stuff From BeQuiet

EVGA B3 - all units. Some seem to have failed testing in various PSU reviews so it's not looking too good for this guy, but we'll see.

 

Some things on this list may not be perfect. Let me know if you believe a PSU is undeserving of its spot on here and provide links to back up your claim and it may be moved. 

 

Some helpful links:

 

How Many Watts Do I Need? - How much power will you need for your system? This guide helps you get a PSU that has more than adequate wattage for you.

80 PLUS Efficiency and What It Really Means - general guide to 80 PLUS efficiency and what it entails. Currently pinned on the Cases & Power Supplies subforum.

STRM's PSU Whitelist - Is it a firebomb?™ 

 

 

Ask any questions below! 

 

How do you even grade these things? ***

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Quality and electrical performance. Value means nothing. No brand biases. Features don't matter.

 

Any unit with a sleeve-bearing fan will be deemed no better than Tier 3. Sleeve-bearing fans tend to fail rather quickly when placed in the horizontal mounting position which is what most systems require (the picture used is a PSU mounted in a Fractal Design Define S which uses a traditional mounting system). This is why excellent units like the Enermax SFX unit are placed in tier 3 despite being very good - the fan design holds it back. If mounted in a position like in this Corsair Air 240 then a sleeve-bearing fan should last a very long time.

PSUs that have been bumped down to tier 3 that would belong in a higher tier if not for their sleeve-bearing fans are marked with yellow asterisks

Any group-regulated unit will be placed no higher than Tier 4 due to the dated design of them. This includes Seasonic's S12/M12/M12II, for example. This does not include the S12G.

But I don't like Tier Lists!!!!111!!!!

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Well I've got news for you! Plenty of people don't like them, but yet this list has helped thousands choose a power supply in an effort to avoid a housefire or awful purchase decision! Since most people do not frequent JonnyGuru forums, do not know what topology means, what ripple is, OEMs, what a primary or secondary is and most don't even realize how much power their components actually consume, this list is quite helpful to those who want peace of mind knowing their selection is not terrible, whether it's better or worse than another unit, and whether they should pull the trigger on a unit they're buying. So, as a snob, you are free to dislike this list all you like and comment on it, but understand that most people do not know as much as you and would rather have a cookie-cutter platform to observe rather than spend hours Googling mysterious and unapproachable things like "Double-forward" or "Schottky barrier rectifier" that, in the end, haven't helped them make a purchasing decision.

 

i have a thermaltake TR2 (its in tier 7)

[STRMfrmXMN]

18 minutes ago, LawlBot said:

i have a thermaltake TR2 (its in tier 7)

Please don't quote the entire OP...

[Exprima]

Any info on the Cooler Master MWE Gold series?

[Stefan Payne]

3 hours ago, Exprima said:

Any info on the Cooler Master MWE Gold series?

based on the same Plattform as Xilence Performance X series, though seems louder.

[seon123]

Good performance. 0,75% regulation and 15mV ripple on the 12V rail. Into tier 1, or do we wait for a review that doesn't say 

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Sample Provided by: EVGA

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http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=551

[turkey3_scratch]

9 minutes ago, seon123 said:

Good performance. 0,75% regulation and 15mV ripple on the 12V rail. Into tier 1, or do we wait for a review that doesn't say 

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http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=551

At this point I'd always wait for a review that tests more things before tiering, JG reviews don't have protection testing, transient response, among other things.

[S James]

TX650M 

Is this PSU good enough for ASUS B350-F, Ryzen 5 2600, and GTX 1080?

I could go for TX550M but it is not in stock here. Is the TX650M good? I was told not go for it. 

[OrionFOTL]

Yes, it's good for this setup. Why wouldn't you go for it?

[awesomegamer919]

30 minutes ago, OrionFOTL said:

Yes, it's good for this setup. Why wouldn't you go for it?

Depending where he lives there could be better options at the price point or even for less maybe?

[OrionFOTL]

Or maybe someone told him it's loud, or perhaps someone told him it's bad for whatever reason - which is why I asked him directly, to explain what was the thing he was told. 

[Stefan Payne]

4 hours ago, S James said:

I could go for TX550M but it is not in stock here. Is the TX650M good? I was told not go for it. 

If you value noise, its not a good PSU.

 

Is Bitfenix Formula available??

[S James]

23 hours ago, OrionFOTL said:

 

 

23 hours ago, awesomegamer919 said:

 

 

18 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

 

Here are a few other options available in the same price range: 

1. Corsair TX550M
2. Gigabyte B700H

3. Thermaltake TR2 S 700W

4. Corsair CX650M

5. Antec EA550G Pro

6. Cooler Master Masterwatt 650W

7. Cooler Master MASTERWATT LITE 230V 700W

 

I think out of all these, TX650M is the best one could get. A little bit of noise won't bother me as much as a cheap quality PSU will xd.

No Bitfenix

[STRMfrmXMN]

2 hours ago, S James said:

 

 

Here are a few other options available in the same price range: 

1. Corsair TX550M
2. Gigabyte B700H

3. Thermaltake TR2 S 700W

4. Corsair CX650M

5. Antec EA550G Pro

6. Cooler Master Masterwatt 650W

7. Cooler Master MASTERWATT LITE 230V 700W

 

I think out of all these, TX650M is the best one could get. A little bit of noise won't bother me as much as a cheap quality PSU will xd.

No Bitfenix

Yeah, the TX is probably the best bet of those.

[Ukee]

Should I feel bad for having the EVGA Supernova G3? Are all the models for the G3 bad in some way? I do have the 850w version of it.

[STRMfrmXMN]

2 minutes ago, Ukee said:

Should I feel bad for having the EVGA Supernova G3? Are all the models for the G3 bad in some way? I do have the 850w version of it.

Nah, just don't go over it's 850W advertised wattage and you hypothetically should be fine.