PSU Tier List [OLD]

[STRMfrmXMN]

1 hour ago, Stefan Payne said:

 

 

There isn't much competition.

Seasonic Snow Silent?

[17030644]

9 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

Yes they are.

Their fans are quite good and don't have much Motor or Bearing Noise.

And the min fan RPM of the Straight Power E11 is around 250rpm.

 

There isn't much competition. Well, at least not one they didn't do themselves -> Xilence Performance X.

But that's a difference price range.

 

7 hours ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

Seasonic Snow Silent?

What about fanless power supplies? Are they worth it over the best be quiet offerings?

[Heartlesss]

Did some more digging, and i kinda got impressed with "Seasonic FOCUS Plus Platinum 550W"

Maybe it's even better than "Be quiet! Dark Power Pro 11" 

Price wise it's same as "Straight power 11"

[Princess Luna]

13 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

TX is rather loud with ~900rpm under no load situations.

Not really my TX650M is just about as silent as my brother's RM850X... I really like the PSU personally speaking for its price-to-performance.

[awesomegamer919]

15 minutes ago, Heartlesss said:

Did some more digging, and i kinda got impressed with "Seasonic FOCUS Plus Platinum 550W"

Maybe it's even better than "Be quiet! Dark Power Pro 11" 

Price wise it's same as "Straight power 11"

FOCUS PLUS has had some issues with bearing noise IIRC

[awesomegamer919]

15 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Not really my TX650M is just about as silent as my brother's RM850X... I really like the PSU personally speaking for its price-to-performance.

Stephans definition of loud is audible in a soundproofed room with nothing else in there, ultimately, unless you are getting a D15 or equivalent with an MSI GAMING/ASUS STRIX style GPU, there will be little difference between each unit.

[Princess Luna]

Just now, awesomegamer919 said:

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Personally speaking I feel people will over-exaggerate how silent the component must be... as I said I see no difference between the two but both rigs runs Founders Edition video cards so any tiny divergence in noise probably gets null by it 

[LienusLateTips]

23 hours ago, awesomegamer919 said:

AcBel is primarily an OEM (albeit not for anything on that list IIRC), AcBel units are generally decent, if not amazing, though, as always, it very much depends on the model and what the reseller wanted...

WHO WANTS ONE?

ONLY $90 CAD, THE SAME PRICE AS A G2 550!

[Princess Luna]

Can't afford the costs for the 80 Plus Gold rating? screw that we have our own 90 Plus rating

[Stefan Payne]

10 hours ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

Seasonic Snow Silent?

Only the old ones are available in Germany, the Primes aren't.

And they still use those crappy Hong Hua fans...

 

2 hours ago, 17030644 said:

What about fanless power supplies? Are they worth it over the best be quiet offerings?

Depends

They aren't that great as it is possible to make fanned PSU that are as quiet as those are.

The Problem is the price of the fanless and that they aren't 0dB(A) because the electronics also does some noise as well.

 

So, no, they ain't worth it compared to a PSU that is optimized to be low noise and has a high quality fan.

Why people don't use those much is because good fans are darn expensive and can increase the cost of the PSU about 25-50%.

39 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Not really my TX650M is just about as silent as my brother's RM850X... I really like the PSU personally speaking for its price-to-performance.

That's just your oppinion, I have posted some FACTS that disagree with you, like this Link:

http://www.tweakpc.de/hardware/tests/netzteile/corsair_tx550m/s08.php

 

But since you asked, look at that:

https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.php/artikel/hardware/netzteile/43252-corsair-tx-650m-im-test.html?start=2

 

And how the people react to what was written there...

 

22 minutes ago, awesomegamer919 said:

Stephans definition of loud is audible in a soundproofed room with nothing else in there, ultimately, unless you are getting a D15 or equivalent with an MSI GAMING/ASUS STRIX style GPU, there will be little difference between each unit.

1. With one F Please

2. I'm talking about not noticable or hardly noticable from a normal working position.

I'm not talking about "I can hear that but doesn't bother me" like others do right now.

 

And you don't need those, because what's important is the noise at lower loads. 

So 1500rpm at 750W is more acceptable than 800rpm+ at 10% load.

And you don't need an NH-D 15, for an unoverclocked system a good Cooler in the ~30€ Range like Scythe Ashura is totally sufficient.

21 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Personally speaking I feel people will over-exaggerate how silent the component must be... as I said I see no difference between the two but both rigs runs Founders Edition video cards so any tiny divergence in noise probably gets null by it 

That is just your OPPINION.

So stop forcing your point of view on others!

And many people, especially in Germany, disagree with you.

They like their PSU to be quiet and other components they can do something about can be louder.

 

And I've seen people recommending an EVGA 850 P2 to people who want a SILENT PSU.

Guess what: They were rather unhappy with that.

And that's what I told that guy that recommended that unit (HWLuXX.de Forum)...

 

And that is one of those things I really hate, when people recommend stuff they know are wrong or should have known better - like it was the Case with the EVGA P2...

[MellowCream]

Considering there is no real definitions or qualifications for each tier, this list is about as meaningful as the OP's opinion. 

[Princess Luna]

9 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

That's just your oppinion, I have posted some FACTS that disagree with you, like this Link:

I just mention that in real life condition the difference is rather negligible, I didn't straight said you're wrong and I am aware of those "synthetic" testing that shows it all so accurately.

 

Remember the difference between us here at the forum, I'm the practical type, you're the all in "theory first" type... which is nothing wrong with it, no need for the heated up reply as if I'm starting an argue with you... chill ^^

 

Edit for your second reply*

I was not recommending any one any thing though, if a person tells me they want the most quiet PSU possible I'll advise accordingly like I always do, I just did a personal note that I feel some might exaggerate on this need however that is their right to.

 

Don't twist someone's words.

[OrionFOTL]

29 minutes ago, JDE said:

WHO WANTS ONE?

ONLY $90 CAD, THE SAME PRICE AS A G2 550!

 

20 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Can't afford the costs for the 80 Plus Gold rating? screw that we have our own 90 Plus rating

They have 80 Plus:

http://www.plugloadsolutions.com/psu_reports/ACBEL POLYTECH INC._PCB007_400W_ECOS 4010_Report.pdf

http://www.plugloadsolutions.com/psu_reports/ACBEL POLYTECH INC._PCB008_500W_ECOS 4011_Report.pdf

http://www.plugloadsolutions.com/psu_reports/ACBEL POLYTECH INC._PCB009_600W_ECOS 3996_Report.pdf

http://www.plugloadsolutions.com/psu_reports/ACBEL POLYTECH INC._PCB010_700W_ECOS 4004_Report.pdf

 

Looks great on the inside too:

 

Half bridge primary side topology with LLC resonant converter, synchronous rectification, DC-DC converters, very open layout with 12V transistors having their own heatsink while +5V and +3.3V MOSFETs are cooled by the chassis.

[LienusLateTips]

7 minutes ago, MellowCream said:

Considering there is no real definitions or qualifications for each tier, this list is about as meaningful as the OP's opinion. 

There is a comparison unit for each tier.

[LienusLateTips]

3 minutes ago, OrionFOTL said:

-snip-

SHHHHHH WE DONT NEED FACTS /s

[seon123]

5 minutes ago, MellowCream said:

Considering there is no real definitions or qualifications for each tier, this list is about as meaningful as the OP's opinion. 

Most people would agree with it. While the exact rankings/recommendations are subjective, it's good enough. 

[Stefan Payne]

42 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

I just mention that in real life condition the difference is rather negligible,

And you pay for a new PSU if you are wrong and the asking person is not satisfied with your recommendation??

 

42 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Remember the difference between us here at the forum, I'm the practical type, you're the all in "theory first" type...

That's wrong.

So stop misrepresenting me!
I have a couple of PSU here right now and am speaking of experience.

I have a PSU with ~900rpm/120mm fan here. And its not that quiet.

 

42 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

I was not recommending any one any thing though,

Never said you were, I just said that it was something I've seen.

And that person thought he was right although that guy was dissatisfied with the fan speed.
 

So don't be that guy.

[awesomegamer919]

4 hours ago, JDE said:

WHO WANTS ONE?

ONLY $90 CAD, THE SAME PRICE AS A G2 550!

According to Ecova, that unit does actually do 80+ gold:

 

https://plugloadsolutions.com/psu_reports/ACBEL POLYTECH INC._PCB007_400W_ECOS 4010_Report.pdf

 

and it does clear 90% at 50% load...

 

 

 

Edited April 19, 2018 by awesomegamer919
Didn't see Orion had already noted that it was not a shit tier unit

[Heartlesss]

Man i'm torn between these 550w units.. And i can't choose one 

For general daily use & gaming, is there really any big difference in performance? Noise wise "be quiet" wins, but other than that..

(Price is the same)

Be quiet! Straight Power 11

EVGA supernova g3

Seasonic Focus Plus Platinum

Corsair rm550x

[seon123]

4 minutes ago, Heartlesss said:

Man i'm torn between these 550w units.. And i can't choose one 

For general daily use & gaming, is there really any big difference in performance? Noise wise "be quiet" wins, but other than that..

(Price is the same)

Be quiet! Straight Power 11

EVGA supernova g3

Seasonic Focus Plus Platinum

Corsair rm550x

All of them perform plenty good enough. The Straight Power 11 is the only multi rail unit of the bunch, and imo, it looks the best. So that one. 

There is also a 450W version of it, which is plenty of wattage for most PCs. 

Edited April 19, 2018 by seon123
Something something

[Heartlesss]

Thanks.. I'm kinda scared of 450w.. Got my mind set that thats 2 low.. LoL

[STRMfrmXMN]

1 minute ago, Heartlesss said:

Thanks.. I'm kinda scared of 450w.. Got my mind set that thats 2 low.. LoL

What are your powering?

[Heartlesss]

2 minutes ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

What are your powering?

Motherboard - Asrock Z370 Extreme4

Processor - Intel Core i5-8600K 95W 

CPU Cooler - Be Quiet Dark Rock 3

Memory - Corsair Vengeance DDR4, 2x8 16GB, 3000MHz

Graphics Card - Asus GeForce GTX 1080, 8GB, ROG Strix

SDD - Crucial MX500, 250GB

HDD - Seagate 2TB, 7200rpm, 64MB

Case will have 3x/120mm and 2x/140mm Fans

 

Some already said 450w is enough. But i want to be 100% safe. 

Maybe ill get 1080ti

[STRMfrmXMN]

2 hours ago, Heartlesss said:

Motherboard - Asrock Z370 Extreme4

Processor - Intel Core i5-8600K 95W 

CPU Cooler - Be Quiet Dark Rock 3

Memory - Corsair Vengeance DDR4, 2x8 16GB, 3000MHz

Graphics Card - Asus GeForce GTX 1080, 8GB, ROG Strix

SDD - Crucial MX500, 250GB

HDD - Seagate 2TB, 7200rpm, 64MB

Case will have 3x/120mm and 2x/140mm Fans

 

Some already said 450w is enough. But i want to be 100% safe. 

Maybe ill get 1080ti

450W would be enough for a 1080, but for a 1070 Ti or better I'd aim for a 550W.

[11killer34]

So if i buy CORSAIR TX850M i wont be dissapointed? its 1 tier right? Any experienc? Currently i have CX750 and have problem with screen freezes and random very small falls from graphic card when gaming. The graphic card is new and doesnt have drops when i run stress test. But when i game the PSU buzzes and my screen freezes for slight moment.