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4 minutes ago, raphidy said:

I don't think it's correlated. I guess it's just for more overclocking headroom.

Or aesthetics, so people with 6+2 connectors don't have the +2 dangling off the connector looking shite :)

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2 minutes ago, Fetzie said:

Or aesthetics, so people with 6+2 connectors don't have the +2 dangling off the connector looking shite :)

Those two pins hanging off the side of my card annoy me way more than they should.

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2 minutes ago, tsk said:

Those two pins hanging off the side of my card annoy me way more than they should.

Whenever I looked at my desktop, I've always wanted to make all those cables that are connected to the fan headers and USB headers disappear. 

If it is not broken, let's fix till it is. 

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37 minutes ago, tsk said:

Here's from the MSI card:

MSI-Radeon-RX-480-PCB.jpg

Less power phases than the reference design and the addition of the 8 pin connector....doesn't seem like that good a trade off.

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32 minutes ago, samcool55 said:

Looks quite disappointing...

It is a huge pcb but it looks like there isn't much going on sadly.

 

yea 4 phases for the core rather than 6 on the reference. Not sure what Msi is planning. 

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2 minutes ago, Pohernori said:

 

yea 4 phases for the core rather than 6 on the reference. Not sure what Msi is planning. 

Maybe they were running low on parts? Because I don't think it'd cost much more to add the remaining 2 phases as everything needed for them is already installed.

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4 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

Maybe they were running low on parts? Because I don't think it'd cost much more to add the remaining 2 phases as everything needed for them is already installed.

 

Well... I highly doubt running low on parts will cause Msi to axe 2 phases on the card. Probably a marketing ploy to maybe push a hawk edition card that has more phases. But i think 4 phases on the card should be fine. No pushing high voltages though. 

 

The power delivery design for the reference PCB is quite overkill. If AMD made it 8pin and out the 290/x cooler on it. That would've been a great card. 

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32 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

 

Less power phases than the reference design and the addition of the 8 pin connector....doesn't seem like that good a trade off.

 

23 minutes ago, Pohernori said:

 

yea 4 phases for the core rather than 6 on the reference. Not sure what Msi is planning. 

It has 6. The other 2 are to the left.

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8 minutes ago, ivan134 said:

 

It has 6. The other 2 are to the left.

Those two might be for VRAM.

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no extreme 8+6 or 8+8 pin models for ln2 from msi or galax ?:|

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@tsk , are all of these 3 dp1.3/1.4, 1 hdmi 2.0 , 1 dl-dvi? I know some people were disappointed by no DVI on the reference card, but it looks like all of the aftermarket cards shown have it. Might be worth putting the display outputs in the specs.

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i like the MSI, the Sapphire, the ASUS, the Gigabyte, and the XFX :x

 

the Powercolor is a bit big for my taste xD

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I like the MSI, Sapphire, and XFX cards. Gigabyte's and ASUS' cards are ugly as usual. PowerColor's is... meh.

 

Edit: Maybe I should go mATX and get a couple of MSI RX 480s? I mean, since the RX 490 will two Polaris 10 GPUs anyway.

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17 minutes ago, ivan134 said:

 

It has 6. The other 2 are to the left.

 

I'm talking about the phases for the core. 

 

it looks like its 4 versus the 6 on the reference design. 

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18 minutes ago, KeltonDSMer said:

@tsk , are all of these 3 dp1.3/1.4, 1 hdmi 2.0 , 1 dl-dvi? I know some people were disappointed by no DVI on the reference card, but it looks like all of the aftermarket cards shown have it. Might be worth putting the display outputs in the specs.

That is correct, they all include the DL-DVI connector.

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1 minute ago, tsk said:

That is correct, they all include the DL-DVI connector.

 

Awesome, thanks for the info! Do they all keep the 3 dp as well, or do some go down to 2? I guess I could just look it up:P.

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1 hour ago, raphidy said:

I don't think it's correlated. I guess it's just for more overclocking headroom.

the 6-pin on rx480 wired up like an 8-pin

Sapphire engineer in an interview said that the only reason they replaced  it with an 8-pin is to calm the tits

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11 minutes ago, KeltonDSMer said:

 

Awesome, thanks for the info! Do they all keep the 3 dp as well, or do some go down to 2? I guess I could just look it up:P.

they keep all DPs

the RX480 reference board has DVI solder pins to allow AIB partners easily add it if they think they need it

some prefer the single slot design

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4 minutes ago, DXMember said:

the 6-pin on rx480 wired up like an 8-pin

Sapphire engineer in an interview said that the only reason they replaced  it with an 8-pin is to calm the tits

Got a link to that?

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1 minute ago, porina said:

Got a link to that?

look up how an 8-pin is wired up

look up how a 6-pin is supposed to be wired up

look at what AMD did

the Sapphire interview thing I don't remember where I saw it, it was quoted and paraphrased, guess you'll have to google it

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2 minutes ago, DXMember said:

the Sapphire interview thing I don't remember where I saw it, it was quoted and paraphrased, guess you'll have to google it

It was this I was curious about, and strangely enough using your version of the words gets me... not the desired search results. :) 

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All of them are ugly except for the saphire

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12 minutes ago, DXMember said:

look up how an 8-pin is wired up

look up how a 6-pin is supposed to be wired up

look at what AMD did

the Sapphire interview thing I don't remember where I saw it, it was quoted and paraphrased, guess you'll have to google it

A 6+2 cable has the same layout on the 6 pin component as an 8 pin cable and yet does not break pci-e spec when used without the extra pins.

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23 minutes ago, DXMember said:

look up how an 8-pin is wired up

look up how a 6-pin is supposed to be wired up

look at what AMD did

the Sapphire interview thing I don't remember where I saw it, it was quoted and paraphrased, guess you'll have to google it

Okay, let's look look at the PCIE6 and PCIE8 wiring

 

For the 6-pin we have:

PIN1 +12 PIN2 +12 PIN13 +12

PIN4 GND PIN5 SENSE PIN6 DNG

For the 8-pin we have the:

PIN1 +12 PIN2 +12 PIN3+12 PIN4 SENSE

PIN5 DNG PIN6 SENSE PIN7 GND PIN8 GND

 

The ATX-specification also tells us that the PIN2 is a "no connection" pin on the PCIE6. Yet every single PSU has a +12 line going there. How dare they break the specification.

 

Now, why did we have to look that up for?

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