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I think one thing that's really cool on the Sapphire Nitro is the position of the 8-pin (on the side, rather than putting it on the top):

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Sapphire is clear winner for me with MSI second, all other designs are either ugly or super disgusting (3 fans...)

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1 hour ago, Thony said:

Sapphire is clear winner for me with MSI second, all other designs are either ugly or super disgusting (3 fans...)

I do think the Sapphire card wins hand down. But why is 3-fans design disgusting? Many high-end, high power cards are 3-fans.

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2 minutes ago, Deli said:

I do think the Sapphire card wins hand down. But why is 3-fans design disgusting? Many high-end, high power cards are 3-fans.

It is just overdone IMO. Looks stupid. I only base it on the looks not performance. 

 

I hate it, card looks ridiculous. 

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Good guy msi. Always delivering beautiful cards. 

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40 minutes ago, Khvarrioiren said:

Okay, let's look look at the PCIE6 and PCIE8 wiring

 

For the 6-pin we have:

PIN1 +12 PIN2 +12 PIN13 +12

PIN4 GND PIN5 SENSE PIN6 DNG

For the 8-pin we have the:

PIN1 +12 PIN2 +12 PIN3+12 PIN4 SENSE

PIN5 DNG PIN6 SENSE PIN7 GND PIN8 GND

 

The ATX-specification also tells us that the PIN2 is a "no connection" pin on the PCIE6. Yet every single PSU has a +12 line going there. How dare they break the specification.

 

Now, why did we have to look that up for?

I don't understand. how can the 6 pin is wired up like a 8 pin? Did they ditch the sense pin? Does the PSU accept current on the pin5 or they overloaded pin4 and pin6 for the gnd?

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1 minute ago, raphidy said:

I don't understand. how can the 6 pin is wired up like a 8 pin? Did they ditch the sense pin? Does the PSU accept current on the pin5 or they overloaded pin4 and pin6 for the gnd?

Because the 8PIN connector is quite literally a 6PIN connector with an additional ground and sense.

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2 minutes ago, Khvarrioiren said:

Because the 8PIN connector is quite literally a 6PIN connector with an additional ground and sense.

I get that, but the 6 pin has only two gnd for the return of the current. So if there's 3 x +poles for two - poles then the current in the - cables will have more current in them. I guess the awg is big enough to support that current then.

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7 minutes ago, raphidy said:

I don't understand. how can the 6 pin is wired up like a 8 pin? Did they ditch the sense pin? Does the PSU accept current on the pin5 or they overloaded pin4 and pin6 for the gnd?

Yes they did, it's wired to have 3x +12V and 3x ground. Maybe that's why half the phases are on slot power and half on the power connector, so it doesn't work when the 6 pin isn't connected.

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1 hour ago, Khvarrioiren said:

Okay, let's look look at the PCIE6 and PCIE8 wiring

 

For the 6-pin we have:

PIN1 +12 PIN2 +12 PIN13 +12

PIN4 GND PIN5 SENSE PIN6 DNG

For the 8-pin we have the:

PIN1 +12 PIN2 +12 PIN3+12 PIN4 SENSE

PIN5 DNG PIN6 SENSE PIN7 GND PIN8 GND

 

The ATX-specification also tells us that the PIN2 is a "no connection" pin on the PCIE6. Yet every single PSU has a +12 line going there. How dare they break the specification.

 

Now, why did we have to look that up for?

you missed the AMD layout

it's 3 times +12 and 3 times ground

they can draw like 250W on that thing without breaking anything

nobody's breaking anything they are just stretching the possibilities and challenging the minds of young engineers

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Probably gonna get me the MSI version. Always had great support with them and they dont lock the voltage.

 

That XFX looks cheap as hell.

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That is the only thing on my mind.

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They all look great. Love those sleek backplates. :)

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6 hours ago, Pohernori said:

 

I'm talking about the phases for the core. 

 

it looks like its 4 versus the 6 on the reference design. 

But its likely all 4 pull from the PCIe PSU cable not the slot. making it better than the reference for power draw. Assuming one of the ones on the left is for VRAM and the other is the slot phase for the GPU, you still have an Aux and a 0.95v phase somewhere on the pcb.

 

And if they use the same VRM controller from reference with similarly spec'd components it will be a darn good setup. If they bump up to 6 phase from the plug I wonder if they will bump up the controller, double up phases, or use the robust controller just for the plug phases and a second controller for the others

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XFX, why do you keep making such sexy sexy cards :(

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9 hours ago, Pohernori said:

Give me the damn pics of the PCB... 

 

And ohhhhhh that XFX design is really pleasing to the eyes... 

 

Powercolor looks like they're using the same kind of heatsink as their PCS+ cards. But I'll bet you that those "claw like" looking fans are gonna be damn loud. 

 

I doubt it. My 7950 PCS+ is a lot quieter than my 970 SC ACX2.0.

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6 hours ago, porina said:

Got a link to that?

The only thing I've heard along those lines was from sapphireED on TGW where there was a quick blurb about the nitro having an 8-pin and ED stating "It has an 8pin, but it doesn't need it".  They didn't get into that aspect in any real depth and I don't believe that Ed is an engineer, but at least he's inside the loop enough to be credible.

https://youtu.be/5GpwC1Cayc4?t=1828

 

I don't know if that is the one that he was talking about, I'd like to believe that it wasn't.

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 Here I am running monitors with 1 DVI, 1 VGA each and 1 with 1 vga.....

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7 hours ago, Thony said:

It is just overdone IMO. Looks stupid. I only base it on the looks not performance. 

 

I hate it, card looks ridiculous. 

Ur right. We definitely needed 8 fans just like the old quad-core Voodoo.

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10 hours ago, thekeemo said:

but why are they all so big..

Well.. they do consume as much power at reference clocks as a 1080,  so there's that to factor in for cooling needs.

 

also, if I'm being honest, I think the XFX card is a winner for design.

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