Do you think in 20+ years we will look back and think...

[Dabombinable]

Nope. As it is I only ever replace/upgrade my screen/monitor when I am willing to replace my desktop. As it stands from 2000-2001 I was using a Pentium III 667EB, 256MB SDRAM, Riva TNT2 and a 20GB HDD as my desktop along with an 85Hz 1024x768 LCD TV/Monitor, and upgraded from 2014-2015 to my current rig with its 4790K, 8GB RAM (halved from 16GB for my brother's desktop), GTX 970, 60GB SSD and 2TB HDD. I'd probably think back about the HDD and SSD not lasting over 20 years like my WD AC280 HDD (80MB, works like new with no damage or errors, 24 years old and counting-currently inside a Windows 95 machine performing the same role its had since it was bought with a 386 DX40-boot drive)

[SteveGrabowski0]

2 hours ago, 69ing Rainbow Dash said:

Wow, gtx 1080? What a piece of crap. Can't even get 100fps on my 12k monitor. (if we haven't blown ourselves up by then)

I will for it introducing the Founders Edition cash grab.

[CtrlAltELITE]

To be honest I dont think the jumps in conventional performance will be the same as they have been in the last 20 years, simply due to the material limitations that manufacturers are running into (Silicon gets hard to work with in the sub 10nm sizes). However what I think we will see is further integration of tech into EVERYTHING. Cars, homes, furniture, jackets etc etc all with computational power also more advanced platforms for VR.

[GoodBytes]

Ahh the old days... Oh by the way.. all that sound it makes... the computer has no fans.

And later as he opens the inside, you will notice that the location where we have our CPU/heatsink... this is where the HDD is.

And the CPU, is a small chip where we have our south bridge (around that area). Also, you'll notice how far apart the RAM from the CPU. I guess the "optimal layout" of components for max performance wasn't achieved back then.

 

The system is powered by a 286 Intel CPU, with a math co-processor add-on (to do math stuff faster... oh yea.. those where the days...), and while our computer are happy with a small CMOS CR2032 3V watch battery, back then it needed a pretty big battery. The HDD is 44MB running at a super fast 3,600 RPM... yup! Half the rpms of now. And if I am not mistaken, that was considered fast back in the days. The system, despite all these RAM sticks, has a whomping 1MB of RAM.. yes, not 1GB.. 1 MB (1024 KB).

 

The beeps and boops you hear when he plays games, is what was called the PC-Speaker. The speaker didn't have a strong magnet to avoid problems with HDD, and therefor was not capable of producing sound properly, but because back in the days the computers didn't have actual sound compatibility without a massive card called a sound card:

(this is bigger than our graphics card - 1987 tech right here)

 

You had no headphones plug or anything. And even the card above, could not output the rich sound that we have now, even if you are comparing with a motherboard integrated graphics chip of several years back.

 

In 1995, we had this bad boy:

Notice the RAM modules that it needed (optional, if I am not mistaken, but required for getting your money worth out of this card). This was about the size of a GPU of today.

 

So now.. heck even back in 2005 days, we had this massive card, in a small tinny tiny chip that you have to hunt for when looking at your motherboard to find it. Crazy!

 

 

[Dabombinable]

5 hours ago, GoodBytes said:

Ahh the old days... Oh by the way.. all that sound it makes... the computer has no fans.

And later as he opens the inside, you will notice that the location where we have our CPU/heatsink... this is where the HDD is.

And the CPU, is a small chip where we have our south bridge (around that area). Also, you'll notice how far apart the RAM from the CPU. I guess the "optimal layout" of components for max performance wasn't achieved back then.

 

The system is powered by a 286 Intel CPU, with a math co-processor add-on (to do math stuff faster... oh yea.. those where the days...), and while our computer are happy with a small CMOS CR2032 3V watch battery, back then it needed a pretty big battery. The HDD is 44MB running at a super fast 3,600 RPM... yup! Half the rpms of now. And if I am not mistaken, that was considered fast back in the days. The system, despite all these RAM sticks, has a whomping 1MB of RAM.. yes, not 1GB.. 1 MB (1024 KB).

 

The beeps and boops you hear when he plays games, is what was called the PC-Speaker. The speaker didn't have a strong magnet to avoid problems with HDD, and therefor was not capable of producing sound properly, but because back in the days the computers didn't have actual sound compatibility without a massive card called a sound card:

 

(this is bigger than our graphics card - 1987 tech right here)

 

You had no headphones plug or anything. And even the card above, could not output the rich sound that we have now, even if you are comparing with a motherboard integrated graphics chip of several years back.

 

In 1995, we had this bad boy:

 

Notice the RAM modules that it needed (optional, if I am not mistaken, but required for getting your money worth out of this card). This was about the size of a GPU of today.

 

So now.. heck even back in 2005 days, we had this massive card, in a small tinny tiny chip that you have to hunt for when looking at your motherboard to find it. Crazy!

 

 

Still got my 386 stored away (needs minor trace repairs/bypasses around the front panel headers), the Awe 64 Gold that was intended to be its soundcard and both of its CD ROM drives (still working and having outlasted 3x Xbox DVD drives+2x DVD drives in my newer desktops). The 8MB RAM was expensive AF as well when it was bought.

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[GoodBytes]

9 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

Still got my 386 stored away (needs minor trace repairs/bypasses around the front panel headers), the Awe 64 Gold that was intended to be its soundcard and both of its CD ROM drives (still working and having outlasted 3x Xbox DVD drives+2x DVD drives in my newer desktops). The 8MB RAM was expensive AF as well when it was bought.

Awesome!

[Godlygamer23]

9 hours ago, ITheSpazI said:

by then the PS4 and xbox will just be getting 4K gameplay support 

I'm assuming you mean the Xbox and Playstation consoles present at that time period - I doubt the PS4 and Xbox One will last 20 years. They're already out-of-date. 

[Dabombinable]

6 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

Awesome!

Not when my soldering iron died and my last remaining AT PSU is electrically unsafe and zapped me out for an hour

 

4 minutes ago, Godlygamer23 said:

I'm assuming you mean the Xbox and Playstation consoles present at that time period - I doubt the PS4 and Xbox One will last 20 years. They're already out-of-date. 

I don't think any Xbox One or PS4 would even be functioning after 20 years due to the significantly reduced uality (which was also seen in the Xbox 360). As it stands however, my Original Xbox is over 13 years old now and is still working as new (including the Thompson DVD drive, I've got 3 spare parts Xbox that have Samsung DVD drives that have all failed in a different way-one actually ejects discs while they are still spinning at full speed)

[Godlygamer23]

10 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

Not when my soldering iron died and my last remaining AT PSU is electrically unsafe and zapped me out for an hour

 

I don't think any Xbox One or PS4 would even be functioning after 20 years due to the significantly reduced uality (which was also seen in the Xbox 360). As it stands however, my Original Xbox is over 13 years old now and is still working as new (including the Thompson DVD drive, I've got 3 spare parts Xbox that have Samsung DVD drives that have all failed in a different way-one actually ejects discs while they are still spinning at full speed)

My PS2 optical drive started to die after ~5 years of use.

[Dabombinable]

1 minute ago, Godlygamer23 said:

My PS2 optical drive started to die after ~5 years of use.

I think I've actually gotten lucky with my Xbox. Everywhere I look people say that the Samsung Xbox DVD drive are the best and that the Thompson drives are the worst, but as I've been finding that's not uite the case. And the DVD drive in my Xbox is very unlikely to see much more use as I soft modded it, upgraded its 10GB Seagate drive to a 160GB, then a 250GB Spinpoint, and copied all 48 of my Xbox discs to it (119GB space used).

[The Flying Sloth]

9 hours ago, Minibois said:

The government(s) would't let AMD go bankrupt and even in a hypothetical scenario where that happens, another company will buy AMD (for cheap), like Samsung .

I don't think AMD will go bankrupt before our best mate trump finds a way to piss off every communist country ever and start a nuclear WW3.

But in allseriousness, I expect one way neural interfaces and holographic screens by then.

[Virtual01]

14 hours ago, TetraSky said:

Will monitor even go higher than 8k... and is there a benefit for them to do so?

It really doesn't matter. As long as there is a market for ludicrously overkill hardware, there is a company willing to sell it and to push it even further.

[Tom is a Door]

I mean although I would like have that kind of progress, however imo tech innovation is not growing exponentially like used to, so 1080 might be a 600 series GTX in 20 yaers

[handymanshandle]

On 6/9/2016 at 7:54 AM, GoodBytes said:

It already like this.

Here is an ad from about 30 years from now in the US:

 

or HDDs:

 

This vvvv

On 6/9/2016 at 7:47 AM, 69ing Rainbow Dash said:

What a piece of crap. Can't even get 100fps on my 12k monitor.

 

 

 

Of course I'm just kidding. But it is kinda interesting to think that in the last decade we've gone from stuff where like game data and what not wasn't stored on like a hard drive.

 

Then

Spoiler

 

Now

Spoiler

 

and not having wired controllers and memory cards.

 

[Scruffy90]

On 6/9/2016 at 9:47 AM, 69ing Rainbow Dash said:

Wow, gtx 1080? What a piece of crap. Can't even get 100fps on my 12k monitor. (if we haven't blown ourselves up by then)

I think this happens to every generation. I am doing that with things from my childhood now. It's funny how we look back and was like wow, that was top of the line back then. Even better is showing the new generation the stuff we grew up with and seeing them trying to figure it out.

[Overkilled]

I dont see myself 20 years from now in any sort of position to care about the 1080 or even graphics cards for that matter. Besides physical graphics cards might be obsolete in 20 years...

[Flavian]

On 6/9/2016 at 10:00 AM, TetraSky said:

You're expecting politicians to understand how important AMD is for the tech world. They hardly even understand the internet, you think they will understand this? It's more likely that they indeed will just be bought out by another company.

Whoever buys AMD wouldn't inherit the rights to the x86 instruction set, Intel made sure that if AMD got bought x86 they would lose the rights to it.

[deVIZtation]

Comparing something that was top of the line 5 years ago to something that is top of the line today is just unfair. It's kind of like the mindset of, "oh I probably won't buy this (whatever) because in a year it will be obsolete and something better will have come out."

[WereCat]

Of course we will. Same with phones. I remember when we only had the one that you had to manually rotate the dial to call someone. When we got phone where you could press buttons it was such an advanced tech. Now we have powerful smartphones...back then I never even dreamt about phone that I can take anywhere with me.

[Misunderstood Wookie]

I don't think computers as we know them will even be mainstream in 20 years, look at our advancements from the past 20 years.  

 

We are going to push the architecture and board layouts we have long before we innovate but it's coming. I'm expecting holographic displays and micro computing requiring decent skills to assemble becoming normal. That or everything modular where motherboards just provide the interlocks of other modules to create the system similar to how we almost had a phone that used clip on and off modules to add features or remove them.

 

We probably will surpass the need for improvement in lane speeds and input output speeds to the point the only thing we make is addon modules too  a few mainstream platforms.

 

Hey that sound like what we already do but I micro boards to become quite normal in 20 years with probably external hardware being normal.

 

Who knows really but we will look back on today as a foot note just as we do when researching wiki pages now.  

[Thony]

Just look back at 2004, I had dial-up 256kbps connection ! And best at that time in SLOVAKIA was maybe 1mbps in capital city. 

 

Nowadays we have 1gbps available in many places in EU.

 

GPU power damn look at the cards back then a joke

 

1080 will be probably even more of a joke because things move so fast now.

 

[EdwardBrown]

On 6/9/2016 at 2:59 PM, TetraSky said:

Will monitor even go higher than 8k... and is there a benefit for them to do so?

Past that I'm just expecting us to have VR/AR monitors or holographic monitors, over the plain monitors we currently have but higher res.

 

And really, like with anything, the ones who were there when something happened/existed will think "it was the good old days" and the ones who weren't will just say that we're crazy to think that over the new fancy tech of the future.

Pfft... pixels - remember them? Nowadays we all use high frame rate vector displays!

[PianoPlayer88Key]

Sometimes ....

 

Dad (referring to my / my brothers' future grandkids or great grandkids, if we're still around then):  "Grandpa?  What's a 'terabyte'?"

 

 

I wonder if they could also say things like...

 

"Grandpa?  Who was 'Intel'?"

"Grandpa? Who was 'Microsoft'?"

"Grandpa? I thought an apple was something you eat, but you say there was a company called 'Apple'.  Who were they?"

"Grandpa? What is 'PCI Express'?"

"Grandpa? What is..." (fill in the blank that today we think is cutting-edge technology, or something that won't go away for a long time)

 

 

 

(Btw neither me nor my brother don't have any children yet, nor are either of us married, yet. He's 42 & I'm 35.  Our oldest grandpa died at 87, so at the rate we're going, we'll probably be gone before any great-grandchildren are born, but you never know until then.)

[theninja35]

7 minutes ago, PianoPlayer88Key said:

"Grandpa?  Who was 'Intel'?"

"Grandpa? Who was 'Microsoft'?"

"Grandpa? I thought an apple was something you eat, but you say there was a company called 'Apple'.  Who were they?"

"Grandpa? What is 'PCI Express'?"

"Grandpa? What is..." (fill in the blank that today we think is cutting-edge technology, or something that won't go away for a long time)

In 20 years we will be bowing down to Apple. They will consume all and dominate the world.

 

It's already happening. It's too late now.

[TheSuspect]

That's what we think about gt 320's and amd semprons rn