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GTX 1080 gets up to 200 FPS on Vulcan API Ultra 1080p on Doom

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Demos of the GeForce GTX 1080 graphics card are pouring in from NVIDIA’s special event in Austin. It looks like NVIDIA did a surprise demo of Id’s next generation DOOM which will for masses to play next week on 13th May 2016. The game was not only shown running on the recently announced GeForce GTX 1080 graphics card but it was doing so with the Vulkan which is the latest API from Khronos Group.

Here is the 1080

(I dont see it drop below 110-120 FPS) [Also keep in mind this is Vulkan]

Seeing this means this will do great at 4k

 

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also their demo was running at a higher FOV than the public demo

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12 minutes ago, Aytex said:

Here is a 980 ti

Averages about 60

(Im not sure if this was OpenGL or DX)

 

It is OpenGL it says OGL in the corner

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Just now, Hunched said:

The Alpha of DOOM doesn't ever drop below 50fps on Xbox One

So this may not be as impressive as it sounds, the game isn't insanely demanding or anything.

The xbone dosen't run it at ultra 1080p..........................

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Really nice to see both a gaming benchmark for the GTX 1080 and Vulkan in action.

Those are some great results but it would have been nice to see the 980 Ti running it with Vulkan as well (or how it compared to DirectX).

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1 minute ago, Aytex said:

The xbone dosen't run it at ultra 1080p..........................

Obviously.

I also missed the bit about the Vulkan API because I'm retarded. 

So nevermind.

Shit like that can really change things up, since the cards aren't even on a level playing field.

Curious what the difference would be both on DX, so we can actually know how big of the difference the API is. We don't know how much of the improvement is from the card vs Vulkan.

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5 minutes ago, Hunched said:

Obviously.

I also missed the bit about the Vulkan API because I'm retarded. 

So nevermind.

Shit like that can really change things up, since the cards aren't even on a level playing field.

Curious what the difference would be both on DX, so we can actually know how big of the difference the API is. We don't know how much of the improvement is from the card vs Vulkan.

But we can conclude Vulkan is miles better then DX12

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52 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

But we can conclude Vulkan is miles better then DX12

How? 980ti =/= 1080. From what I have seen in this thread you cannot conclude that Vulkan is miles better than DX12 at all. Unless I missed something in the videos? It could be the 1080 or it could be Vulkan or both. Unless there is a demo of the 1080 running it with DX12 we cannot accurately conclude that Vulkan is better from what is shown here. Although yes it is impressive at 200 FPS. My goal isn't to be a dick. I just do not see it from what I have seen in this thread.

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21 minutes ago, xboxonthego3 said:

How? 980ti =/= 1080. From what I have seen in this thread you cannot conclude that Vulkan is miles better than DX12 at all. Unless I missed something in the videos? It could be the 1080 or it could be Vulkan or both. Unless there is a demo of the 1080 running it with DX12 we cannot accurately conclude that Vulkan is better from what is shown here. Although yes it is impressive at 200 FPS. My goal isn't to be a dick. I just do not see it from what I have seen in this thread.

The 1080 is not as powerful in gaming as Nvidia makes it seem. No we can't make conclusions but seeing other similar benchmarks running Vulkan rather then DX12 and achieving almost 30 more frames across the board on Linux. It is safe to say Vulkan is better

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200fps the human brain can only register 60fps so who cares

 

Edit, idiots lol

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12 minutes ago, Slickwicked said:

200fps the human brain can only register 60fps so who cares

 

Edit, idiots lol

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6 hours ago, SamStrecker said:

But we can conclude Vulkan is miles better then DX12

According to what people in the know are saying (Johan Anderson, Dan Baker etc) they do not expect there to be significant performance differences between the two APIs because they are very similar.

 

There was a tweet sometime back where Johan Anderson said which performed better on a particular app would come down to which renderer is better optimized. e.g. if x developer spends a bit more time on his Vulkan renderer than his DX12 renderer then vulkan would perform better, and vice versa.

 

I don't think either of them would be automatically faster or slower, it just comes down to how good the particular implementation is. If you do a bad implementation it will be even slower than the last-gen APIs.

 

The main advantage DX12 had was that it came out about a year ahead of Vulkan so the ecosystem is slightly more mature as of now. But that advantage is only short term.

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Meanwhile waiting for some dumbass at my school to say this:

 

LOL YOU GUYS ARE SO DUMB IT'S CALLED GTX 1080 BECAUSE IT CAN ONLY RUN 1080P YOU ARE SO STUPID FOR THINKING IT'S 4KILOBYTES ITS PROBABLY AT LEAST 4 MEGAWATTS IF ANYTHING, BESIDES AMD HAS BETTER FLUX CAPACITORS IN THE MATRIX CONFIGURATION BOARD SO IT'S POINTLESS.

 

 

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9 hours ago, LAwLz said:

Those are some great results but it would have been nice to see the 980 Ti running it with Vulkan as well (or how it compared to DirectX).

they have not made a pc directx renderer for this game, and now it would be a waste of time to do so. so we will not get a comparison of it vs vulkan in this game. Maybe they have a idtech directX renderer for xbox one since there is no other choice on that platform.

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42 minutes ago, Humbug said:

they have not made a pc directx renderer for this game, and now it would be a waste of time to do so. so we will not get a comparison of it vs vulkan in this game. Maybe they have a idtech directX renderer for xbox one since there is no other choice on that platform.

realistically, it wouldnt be a good comparable considering the xbone is about equivalent of a gtx 460-470 (40nm)

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7 minutes ago, raendeu said:

Why does anyone even care about 1080p?

Show me the 4K Performance.

1080 is good enough for most people. TBH A lot of people just want to see the VR performance.

 

 

 

 

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11 hours ago, Aytex said:

Here is the 1080

(I dont see it drop below 110-120 FPS) [Also keep in mind this is Vulkan]

Seeing this means this will do great at 4k

 

Here is a 980 ti

Averages about 60

(Im not sure if this was OpenGL or DX)


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The ID Tech engine is an OpenGL engine (or at least was) only so there's no chance it was running in DX mode.

 

Now they've updated it to use Vulkan instead!!

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Taken from original source

 

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DOOM was running at 1080p (the limitation of the LED video wall at the event) on the GeForce GTX 1080, but then Bethesda dropped the bomb that DOOM would include support for the Vulkan API. Once they did this, the frame rate went from around 50-55FPS to 120FPS+ constant, which is super impressive.

I am sorry but 50-55 FPS on 1080p? It had Vsync on, that is true, but it should've been an easy 60 FPS w/o drops, so why only 50-55?

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5 hours ago, Humbug said:

According to what people in the know are saying (Johan Anderson, Dan Baker etc) they do not expect there to be significant performance differences between the two APIs because they are very similar.

 

There was a tweet sometime back where Johan Anderson said which performed better on a particular app would come down to which renderer is better optimized. e.g. if x developer spends a bit more time on his Vulkan renderer than his DX12 renderer then vulkan would perform better, and vice versa.

 

I don't think either of them would be automatically faster or slower, it just comes down to how good the particular implementation is. If you do a bad implementation it will be even slower than the last-gen APIs.

 

The main advantage DX12 had was that it came out about a year ahead of Vulkan so the ecosystem is slightly more mature as of now. But that advantage is only short term.

I mean faster on Linux and other platforms other then Windows. Hence why Vulkan is better then DX12

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3 minutes ago, Bouzoo said:

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I am sorry but 50-55 FPS on 1080p? It had Vsync on, that is true, but it should've been an easy 60 FPS w/o drops, so why only 50-55?

Because the ID Tech engine (and OpenGL) is garbage, W:TNO struggles on the GTX980 so yeah.

 

It does look like Vulkan might make a decent engine out of it yet.

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5 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

I mean faster on Linux and other platforms other then Windows. Hence why Vulkan is better then DX12

Oh ya. Vulkan is a huge boost to Linux simply because of the fact that the openGL ecosystem was not performing well and devs did not like it.

 

btw- it's Vulkan, with a K. Can you change the topic title?

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lol my 680s couldnt even manage 60 in the beta

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