A Researcher Just Accidentally Developed A Battery That Could Last A Lifetime

[acsonline]

 

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Researchers from the University of California, Irvine, have invented a nanowire-based battery that can be recharged hundreds of thousands of times, a significant leap towards a battery that doesn’t require replacing.

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Mya Le Thai, the lead study author, has charged and discharged the battery up to 200,000 times without breaking the nanowires and without loss of capacity.

http://www.iflscience.com/technology/new-battery-can-be-recharged-hundreds-thousands-times

 

As consumers, we always seem to focus on battery life, ie. how long can we run our device on a single charge. If this discovery pans out and they can dramatically increase the overall lifespan of the battery that would be awesome.  One of the worries I've always had for electric vehicles was the possibility of having to replace the expensive batteries. This would definitely make it a non-issue if it pans out.  

What do you guys think?

[Starelementpoke]

3 minutes ago, acsonline said:

 

http://www.iflscience.com/technology/new-battery-can-be-recharged-hundreds-thousands-times

 

As consumers, we always seem to focus on battery life, ie. how long can we run our device on a single charge. If this discovery pans out and they can dramatically increase the overall lifespan of the battery that would be awesome.  One of the worries I've always had for electric vehicles was the possibility of having to replace the expensive batteries. This would definitely make it a non-issue if it pans out.  

What do you guys think?

Why do we invent useful stuff when we don't mean to? Does this mean we'll make the cure for cancer if we stop researching it?

[LynxThe1st]

I need a shit so I can't be bothered to read

clickybait title

I thought it meant one charge lasts for ever ;-;

not you can charge it again

which we have

but not as much

[LynxThe1st]

1 minute ago, Starelementpoke said:

Why do we invent useful stuff when we don't mean to? Does this mean we'll make the cure for cancer if we stop researching it?

yes

[Renegade7369]

1 minute ago, Starelementpoke said:

Why do we invent useful stuff when we don't mean to? Does this mean we'll make the cure for cancer if we stop researching it?

There will likely never be a cure for cancer because there is no money to be made in curing a disease permanantly. Hospitals would rather "treat" you over 20 years or however long and make a fortune off you/your insurance.

[acsonline]

1 minute ago, Starelementpoke said:

Why do we invent useful stuff when we don't mean to? Does this mean we'll make the cure for cancer if we stop researching it?

Lol, it does seem like we stumble across these things blindly doesn't it?  Thank god for the naked human curiosity that drives scientists to try weird things just for the sake of "what if..."!

I'd be great if someone could "stumble across" a cure for cancer, but don't forget, most research is incremental and eventually yields results as well.

[RedWulf]

Seems nice, but the trials haven't looked into actually lifespan nor actually use, just charge cycles. Once we see how it stands up to time, storing energy(not just charge and discharge), and real world environments I'll get excited. Would be nice to never have to replace a battery though

[SImoHayha]

8 minutes ago, Starelementpoke said:

Why do we invent useful stuff when we don't mean to? Does this mean we'll make the cure for cancer if we stop researching it?

Because its our human nature. We're so obssessed with trying to find the right solution to find the right thing .

 

However this causes us to be blind to other ways of trying to finding the solution, thus tossing creativity out the window. Only when we make mistakes we learn.

[SImoHayha]

2 minutes ago, RedWulf said:

Seems nice, but the trials haven't looked into actually lifespan nor actually use, just charge cycles. Once we see how it stands up to time, storing energy(not just charge and discharge), and real world environments I'll get excited. Would be nice to never have to replace a battery though

We could probably use these batteries, for storing energy like for solar energy.

[techswede]

1 minute ago, Ramamataz said:

Because its our human nature. We're so obssessed with trying to find the right solution to find the right thing .

 

However this causes us to be blind to other ways of trying to finding the solution, thus tossing creativity out the window. Only when we make mistakes we learn.

"Can't see the wood because of the trees" 

One of my favorite idioms

[SImoHayha]

2 minutes ago, techswede said:

"Can't see the wood because of the trees" 

One of my favorite idioms

How can we see if our eyes aren't real.

[givingtnt]

20 minutes ago, acsonline said:

 

http://www.iflscience.com/technology/new-battery-can-be-recharged-hundreds-thousands-times

 

As consumers, we always seem to focus on battery life, ie. how long can we run our device on a single charge. If this discovery pans out and they can dramatically increase the overall lifespan of the battery that would be awesome.  One of the worries I've always had for electric vehicles was the possibility of having to replace the expensive batteries. This would definitely make it a non-issue if it pans out.  

What do you guys think?

daing im late, also please fix this white shit on the dark theme D:

(ctrl/shift/v for pasting without formating )

[GeekJump]

16 minutes ago, Renegade7369 said:

There will likely never be a cure for cancer because there is no money to be made in curing a disease permanantly. Hospitals would rather "treat" you over 20 years or however long and make a fortune off you/your insurance.

Had a bio prof (actual Dr. Dr. not academic Dr.) who used random over the counter products and some chemicals to cure his horse of cancer...he said it was let aggressive them chemo and overall cost him only a couple hundred bucks from beginning to end of treatment. He was a strong believer in your quote and was convinced we should have found a usable cure by now.

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but back on topic. This is cool for long term items (EV, battery stores for a house, etc.) but ehh for everything else. Cool my next phone's battery might not loose power. That's great...until I get a new phone a year or two later >_> /s

[EscalatorBoy]

10 minutes ago, GeekJump said:

Had a bio prof (actual Dr. Dr. not academic Dr.) who used random over the counter products and some chemicals to cure his horse of cancer...he said it was let aggressive them chemo and overall cost him only a couple hundred bucks from beginning to end of treatment. He was a strong believer in your quote and was convinced we should have found a usable cure by now.

 

The entire line of logic is insane. Do you have any idea how much goddamn money you would make if your pharmaceutical company were to be the ones to cure cancer? You'd immediately change your slogan to "The People who Cured Cancer" and live comfortably on endless profits until the end of your days.

 

Not to mention the fact that literally everyone, including medical professionals, have had someone in their life die of cancer, and wouldn't be able to keep the cure a secret. Unless all the researchers are sociopaths, I don't see how this cynical outlook is close to reality.

 

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But back on topic! Infinitely rechargeable batteries sound amazing. It's rare to see large leaps in battery technology, so we'll see how it all pans out.

[GeekJump]

1 minute ago, EscalatorBoy said:

 

The entire line of logic is insane. Do you have any idea how much goddamn money you would make if your pharmaceutical company were to be the ones to cure cancer? You'd immediately change your slogan to "The People who Cured Cancer" and live comfortably on endless profits until the end of your days.

 

Not to mention the fact that literally everyone, including medical professionals, have had someone in their life die of cancer, and wouldn't be able to keep the cure a secret. Unless all the researchers are sociopaths, I don't see how this cynical outlook is close to reality.

 

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But back on topic! Infinitely rechargeable batteries sound amazing. It's rare to see large leaps in battery technology, so we'll see how it all pans out.

Calm your elevated testes, sir. I'm just telling a tale of a man I knew. Let me put my tin foil hat on real quick before I tell you the end of it....A couple months after 'curing' his horse and telling us all about it...he mysterious died! *DUH DUH DUH*

 

Now you tell me, how random is it that a 70-something year old guy just drops died like that?!?!?! He was silenced! (this part is a joke but he did actually die right after )

 

I agree that cancer thing is a crazy conspiracy but I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out true for a less lethal sicknesses.

 

[SurvivorNVL]

Science is not a field of, "Eureka!"  It is field of, "Huh.  That's funny."  And such is how so many great things happen.

[SurvivorNVL]

8 minutes ago, EscalatorBoy said:

-Snip-

Sociopaths probably have the highest reasoning to release it, actually.  Survival is above all other things, always on the mind.  Sort of a natural craving, and always on the mind.  Releasing the cure would net them money, money is survival, ensures protection, garners attention, but even then that is a fine trade-off for the means to ensure constant survival as well as combat cancer if they develop it or protect those they do care about, how few that may be.  In turn all of that lines up with societies goals, and the sociopath will likely not care too much about that aspect.

Then again it depends on the sociopathy--a lot of different variants.  Like ducks!  You got white ones, brown ones, fried ones.

And on topic - give me a battery that recharges itself 24/7 and doesn't ever stop working.  Give me the power of the Sun, inside of my phone.  

[FPSwithaWacomTablet]

This would only result in thinner phones, due to royalties the handset makers get from accessory makers.. Ahh capitalism

[Mooshi]

Such a battery wouldn't fly commercially--too much greed to allow the general population to have nice things. 

[captain cactus]

24 minutes ago, Mooshi said:

Such a battery wouldn't fly commercially--too much greed to allow the general population to have nice things. 

Leave that to Tesla.

[NumLock21]

So it's not a battery with single charge that will last a lifetime, but a battery that can be recharged for a lifetime.

Well if that battery can only hold a 30 minute charge, it won't be fun to keep on recharging it for a lifetime. Compare that to a nuclear battery, nuclear battery sounds a lot better. NASA's Curiosity Rover has a nuclear battery and from a single charge, it will last at least 14 years. Others can last as long as 25 years.

http://www.about-robots.com/curiosity-rover-nuclear-battery.html

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/416312/a-25-year-battery/

[Yog]

1 hour ago, Starelementpoke said:

Why do we invent useful stuff when we don't mean to? Does this mean we'll make the cure for cancer if we stop researching it?

The whole "discovered by accident" thing I think is severely misleading (nothing against this thread or the article, but rather the whole concept). Very very rarely are things absolutely discovered by accident because labs all over the world are working to discover something, anything. Certainly the team here were trying to build a better battery, that's the whole reason they were working...and that's what they did. Sure, the exact quality of that battery was unknown but they were trying to discover something involving batteries. How can that be considered that an accident? That's like saying while investigating a sound in your attic you accidentally discovered a mouse.

[VerticalDiscussions]

Still waiting for them -....-

 

 

HURRY UP ALREADY, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!

[LAwLz]

2 hours ago, Renegade7369 said:

There will likely never be a cure for cancer because there is no money to be made in curing a disease permanantly. Hospitals would rather "treat" you over 20 years or however long and make a fortune off you/your insurance.

That "logic" breaks down as soon as you realize that pretty much all developed counties except the US got universal healthcare. It is in the best interest for everyone to keep people healthy in those countries.

It also don't make sense unless you think that scientists dying in caner are willing to sacrifice their own lives, as well as the lives of their loved ones just so that other people (not themselves) can make money (because it's not doctors and hospitals doing the cancer research).

 

 

 

Nice that they discovered this, but like with most battery discoveries it will sadly probably not lead anywhere.

[Kamil]

I've resigned myself to not believing there will ever be a "revolutionary" change in battery technology until I buy something that has the battery in it. Two dozen discoveries in and everything I've been able to buy continues to be incremental improvements plodding along. I'm not saying that any of the discoveries were fake or anything, but it's not like batteries are suddenly all going to have infinite charging cycles with no downsides compared to existing designs.