Big tech companies back Samsung in Samsung vs Apple lawsuit

[jos]

Samsung was ordered to turn over the total profits of the Galaxy devices the court decided were infringing on Apple's IPs, worth almost $1 billion. Earlier this year, the Court of Appeals lowered that amount to $548 million

 

Google, Facebook, eBay, Dell, HP and other big tech corporations have submitted a "friend of the court" brief on July 1st, supporting Samsung's stance. 

 

Here is what they have to tell:

 

Under the panel's reasoning, the manufacturer of a smart television containing a component that infringed any single design patent could be required to pay in damages its total profit on the entire television, no matter how insignificant the design of the infringing feature was to the manufacturer's profit or to consumer demand.

 

Software products and online platforms face similar dangers. A design patent may cover the appearance of a single feature of a graphical user interface, such as the shape of an icon. That feature—a result of a few lines out of millions of code—may appear only during a particular use of the product, on one screen display among hundreds. But the panel's decision could allow the owner of the design patent to receive all profits generated by the product or platform, even if the infringing element was largely insignificant to the user and it was the thousands of other features, implemented across the remainder of the software, that drove the demand generating those profits.

 

 

 

 

 

I think this is a never ending fight...

 

Source:http://www.insidesources.com/facebook-google-others-urge-court-to-review-apple-v-samsung-patent-case/

[Syntaxvgm]

They should file the lawsuit with rounded corners on the paperwork.

Yah know.

Just to rub in the fact that they own shapes

(They'd tell them to suck their dick but Phillips likely owns a patent on cylinders with cones on top)

[Nineshadow]

"nine jurors found Samsung guilty of infringing on six out of seven Apple patents, including the rectangular shape and rounded corners of the iPhone, and the shape of its application icons. Samsung was ordered to pay Apple damages of $1.05 billion in that original case."

Seriously?RECTANGULAR SHAPE???ROUNDED CORNERS???

[Atmos]

Good. Finally some people showing some backbone to the thieves and patent trolls at apple.

[MrDynamicMan]

"nine jurors found Samsung guilty of infringing on six out of seven Apple patents, including the rectangular shape and rounded corners of the iPhone, and the shape of its application icons. Samsung was ordered to pay Apple damages of $1.05 billion in that original case."

Seriously?RECTANGULAR SHAPE???ROUNDED CORNERS???

this.

From here on out I patent language. Anyone that uses language can be sued for all their profits. And money. I patent that too.

[themaniac]

Is this gonna turn into another great lawsuit war?

[Notional]

Samsung should never have lost in the first place. Just a travesty in the American law system. How can you even patent a rounded corner?

Samsung had plenty of designs like that before the first iPhone even appeared, so the rule of prior art should have rendered the case void.

[lak]

I hope this case is used as a driver and an indicator that the USPTO requires long overdue patent reform.

[mr moose]

Apple didn't win based on rounded corners,  why won't you people read the article before commenting?

 

the court threw out $382 million in “trade dress” infringement damages (over aesthetic design elements like rounded corners on smartphones and the shape of apps)

 

 

They won because the court decided that an entire products value was determined by only it's "front face, user interface and certain utility features like tapping to zoom."

 

Basically as always the US courts/panel/jury have done the dodgy and don't understand technology and/or basic business and/or are simply supporting US owned companies in their time of financial short comings.

[Sakkura]

Apple didn't win based on rounded corners,  why won't you people read the article before commenting?

 

 

They won because the court decided that an entire products value was determined by only it's "front face, user interface and certain utility features like tapping to zoom."

 

Basically as always the US courts/panel/jury have done the dodgy and don't understand technology and/or basic business and/or are simply supporting US owned companies in their time of financial short comings.

 

Actually Apple did win based on rounded corners in the original verdict, but that part was rejected on appeal.

[Dezz]

this.

From here on out I patent language. Anyone that uses language can be sued for all their profits. And money. I patent that too.

 

Let's use telepathy and pay with stones!

[sof006]

"nine jurors found Samsung guilty of infringing on six out of seven Apple patents, including the rectangular shape and rounded corners of the iPhone, and the shape of its application icons. Samsung was ordered to pay Apple damages of $1.05 billion in that original case."

Seriously?RECTANGULAR SHAPE???ROUNDED CORNERS???

I know right... Oh which other phones have I seen with that exact description.

 

Can list of few really.

 

Motorola

Nokia

Sony

..... etc

 

I have no idea how a lawsuit like that can hold up in court, its beyond a joke. Its like TV manufacturers suing each other because they are rectangular and have four corners. 

[Bouzoo]

Sounds to me like big players are trying to keep Apple in check since they grew this big. Also Apple asked for dismissal of Google's involvement since they "own" Android.

[HalGameGuru]

Someone needs to explain jury nullification to those jurors going into IP cases.

[samcool55]

I think this proves how much BS it all is. I mean if big companies that are rivals unite together to put this to an end, it's a clear sign enough is enough and this needs to end, now.

[TheMissxu]

lolz

 

Apple is going to start to sue major movies stars for having "too square" of a face

[The Gaige]

I knew there's a reason why I hate Apple!

[inactive account]

apple is bad in every fucking way

 

what happened to the lawsuit nvidia vs samsung?

[ManWithBeard1990]

Next thing you know Samsung designs a rectangular phone without rounded corners and they get sued into oblivion because those silly Americans keep hurting themselves on the moderately sharp edges. You know it's going to happen at some point.

[MrDynamicMan]

Let's use telepathy and pay with stones!

but stones are also my patent. Isn't it clear that no one else could have ever had such a unique idea?

[SurvivorNVL]

Don't worry Samsung.  I love and support you.  :>

[Shakaza]

"nine jurors found Samsung guilty of infringing on six out of seven Apple patents, including the rectangular shape and rounded corners of the iPhone, and the shape of its application icons. Samsung was ordered to pay Apple damages of $1.05 billion in that original case."

Seriously?RECTANGULAR SHAPE???ROUNDED CORNERS???

I'm sorry, but what? I don't understand. Usually there's some justification of their actions, but here I'm not seeing it. This just doesn't make any sense.

[mr moose]

Actually Apple did win based on rounded corners in the original verdict, but that part was rejected on appeal.

 

yes, I even quoted that, ergo the system worked for that particular issue.

[mr moose]

I'm sorry, but what? I don't understand. Usually there's some justification of their actions, but here I'm not seeing it. This just doesn't make any sense.

 

This is the issue I have,  the jurors not only made that decision but they did it too quickly, IP lawyers took months to scour over the information and come to a decision whether they have a case or not yet 9 relatively inexperienced Juror's only took a day to decide they were infringed. 

 

http://www.ip-watch.org/2012/09/19/patently-wrong-the-jurys-verdict-in-apple-v-samsung/

 

A quick read over this shows just how incomprehension they were.

[Shakaza]

This is the issue I have,  the jurors not only made that decision but they did it too quickly, IP lawyers took months to scour over the information and come to a decision whether they have a case or not yet 9 relatively inexperienced Juror's only took a day to decide they were infringed. 

 

http://www.ip-watch.org/2012/09/19/patently-wrong-the-jurys-verdict-in-apple-v-samsung/

 

A quick read over this shows just how incomprehension they were.

Ugh, wow, I usually have more faith in the legal system.

 

I have a question, though. Why are these big tech companies backing Samsung in this suit? Is there some benefit in doing so? You'll have to forgive me; I'm not exactly knowledgeable in this stuff.