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DirectX 12 will be supported on Windows 7 and Up

How? I thought netbooks couldn't support it due to its hardware, especially with an Atom.

It's an Acer Aspire One.  It has a C60 APU, 4 GB DDR3 RAM.  A little slow, but perfectly capable of running any version of Windows.

 

Also, you wouldn't loose data in an upgrade from 32 to 64 bit as long as you back up everything, which you should be doing anyway.

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It's an Acer Aspire One.  It has a C60 APU, 4 GB DDR3 RAM.  A little slow, but perfectly capable of running any version of Windows.

 

Also, you wouldn't loose data in an upgrade from 32 to 64 bit as long as you back up everything, which you should be doing anyway.

Yeah, but restoring data in Windows 8.1, IMO is a pain in the ass.

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Yeah, but restoring data in Windows 8.1, IMO is a pain in the ass.

It's like that no matter what OS your using.

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It's like that no matter what OS your using.

No, but Windows 8.1 is a HUGE pain in the ass. When it says recovery, it doesn't even have data recovery as an option. All it has is system restore, PC refresh, and recovery drive. What's the point of backups if you can't restore those damn files?

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No, but Windows 8.1 is a HUGE pain in the ass. When it says recovery, it doesn't even have data recovery as an option. All it has is system restore, PC refresh, and recovery drive. What's the point of backups if you can't restore those damn files?

I don't use the built in Windows backup utility anyway, so if I needed to restore I use the my third party program.

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Still, I think Vista can take advantage of DX 12. Why are there so many Vista haters? I think it looks so pretty and it led to the pretty and popular Windows 7.

IIRC Vista is pretty close to 7 under the hood, it shares drivers and hardware firmware with 7. I'm sure that a clever boffin will find a way to activate DX12 on Vista and tell the rest of the world about it.

How? I thought netbooks couldn't support it due to its hardware, especially with an Atom.

If you disable a load of pointless features and eyecandy you can get Windows 7 to run on quite a lot of hardware.

I think that quite a bit of the reasoning behind this decision is to try and avoid losing customers to Linux and OpenGL with Mantle-like extensions and Steam for Linux. If they forced an OS upgrade on everybody, they might just decide to get a new OS for free instead.

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No, but Windows 8.1 is a HUGE pain in the ass. When it says recovery, it doesn't even have data recovery as an option. All it has is system restore, PC refresh, and recovery drive. What's the point of backups if you can't restore those damn files?

system restore has never backed up files has it?

 

I have always backed up my files to a separate drive or use ghost/reflect to maintain a good working image of my pc.

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Still, I think Vista can take advantage of DX 12. Why are there so many Vista haters? I think it looks so pretty and it led to the pretty and popular Windows 7.

While I think they could have supported it and I'm not a vista hater, It just isn't relevant anymore. More people still use XP over Vista and when they upgrade, they won't be upgrading to Vista.

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Well, I hate Vista haters. They just don't see the true potential of Vista. Well, it was kinda Microsoft's fault for making Vista so buggy. If they had checked their coding right, they would have made it more popular, like Windows 7 it was supposed to replace.

the reason they dont do vista is because vista was directx  10.   it didn't become dx11 till sp2. so it cant natively support DX11 with is required for Dx12 to work for older systems 

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the reason they dont do vista is because vista was directx  10.   it didn't become dx11 till sp2. so it cant natively support DX11 with is required for Dx12 to work for older systems 

Well, at least it was able to support DX11. If Microsoft had the choice, they might've as well not let it support DX11 at all.

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Well, I hate Vista haters. They just don't see the true potential of Vista. Well, it was kinda Microsoft's fault for making Vista so buggy. If they had checked their coding right, they would have made it more popular, like Windows 7 it was supposed to replace.

 

It can have as much potential as it wants. It was a glitchy and rushed OS that broke compatibility with altogether far too much hardware and software and was plagued with so many issues that it earned an eternal reputation for being quite shit.

 

Windows Vista's potential was eventually realised though. It's called Windows 7.

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I'm already using Windows 8 though, guys it ain't that bad I used to be a huge fan of Window 7.

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I'm already using Windows 8 though, guys it ain't that bad I used to be a huge fan of Window 7.

I would say it's not bad at all. Sure there was compatibility issues which have been addressed, and other issues which have been addressed, the final problem was the fact that it didn't natively support a start menu. If it had a start menu NO ONE would complain.

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Great news !!!!!!!!!!!

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Just because Win 7 will support it, does not mean Win 7 will get ALL of the features that it offers. Windows 8.1 already gets DX 11.2 that Win 7 has no access to, and supposedly those features are incapable of being implemented on Win 7. We need to wait and see the final product before we go dancing in the street over this announcement.

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But how are the haters going to hate if MS gives them stuff for free,  oh wait DX has always been free.   :blink:

Still not free as in freedom though.

Well this is good news. Seems like Microsoft have been doing quite a few good things recently.

If they keep the good news coming I might even forgive them for all the bullshit they have been in pulling for the last 5 years or so.

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Still not free as in freedom though.

Well this is good news. Seems like Microsoft have been doing quite a few good things recently.

If they keep the good news coming I might even forgive them for all the bullshit they have been in pulling for the last 5 years or so.

 

To be honest, I don't know what BS most people are talking about.  I buy a new OS once every 5 years, that's about the upgrade cycle for me at the moment, I don't feel ripped off paying $90 every five years, I have yet to be prevented from doing anything on my pc due to lack of support, I have had no games that can't be run due to MS software, and haven't had any programs that were limited due to MS updates or patches. 

 

The only issue I have had was when I went from ME to vista and an old cd burning program from '97 I had did not run in vista (hardly MS's fault) .

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I generally believe that Vista was such a big flop at launch that by the time they fixed most of the major issues service pack 1 but nobody listened or cared because everyone already hated it to much. Kinda of like Windows 8. Even if they completely change the UI and made changes that it made it the best thing ever, it still has one huge disadvantage. The name. It's going to stick until Windows 9 comes out as the "new and improved Windows" when in reality, it's just a big update to Windows 8.1.

 

Well said Mike! 

 

 

I've used Vista a lot and I'm kinda thankful for it's buggy launch because if forced me to learn about hardware and software troubleshooting and "unnoticeable" pushed me into the tech world. 

Any latest patched Windows Vista PC's with proper hardware (So no 2GB of RAM and a Pentium 2200) can run it naively and is preforming well enough to be a basic OS for normal home PC users. 

It's also the same story for Windows 8, I'm starting to like it but my only complain at this moment is that I miss the beautiful Aero Glass effects that Win Vista and 7 have  :(

Just my personal opinion about Windows Vista and 8  ;)

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