RTX 3080Ti Reviews

[jaslion]

4 minutes ago, yolosnail said:

I disagree, that was the Titan, and now the 3090.

 

The *80Ti was the bang-for-the-buck of the high end, it was getting most of the top end performance for a lower price

The best for the buck highend has always been the non ti version over and over.

 

Then came titans for people that wanted that bit more.

Then came ti cards for the 80 class cards for people that wanted that titan performance but didn't want to pay for the extra titan features.

Then came the 90 series which nvidia really wants you to think is a titan class gpu but in reality is a poor value rtx card that has no place in the rtx lineup.

It should have been their titan rtx 3000 but they made it a pointless card. It has more vram but not the features to use it effectively.

 

Basically kinda what happened with the second titan that had 12gb of vram but even in productivity work was struggling to use it effectively due to simply not having the driver support needed for it. However it still had the titan features at least which the 3090 does not so it really just is a card that exists without a purpose.

[jones177]

This is my favorite 3080 ti review.

 

[SADS]

It used to be that halo products (3090/titan level) were there for the "money no object, Epeen brigade", people that just bought the most expensive stuff with no regard to whether it was worth it or not and the smart money was in waiting for the Ti cards.

 

Now I don't even know what to believe anymore....

[StareX]

All I can say is, why.

 

But oh well

[SADS]

47 minutes ago, SolarNova said:

Much like the 2080ti, 6900XT, and 3090 .. the 3080ti is an overpriced money grab targeting those without money sense or market forethought.

 

For those interested, here something i posted back in September last year about the price history of Nvidias top end cards. Add the 3080ti and see just how disgusting the latest generations have been price wise.

 

 

 

 

 

This should be a pinned post on every tech forum, review site and youtube video.

If there's just one thing that I'd like everyone to see, its that list of GPUs and pricing over the generations.

I really wish that people would see just how bad a value proposition the last few generations are, and all these tech media sites are continuously pushing it under the carpet.

They're either playing nice to the manufacturers or willfully ignoring it, hiding behind the 'scalper pricing' banner.

 

its doesn't even matter about the current markets. The MSRP is insane regardless and people should recognise this.

[Blademaster91]

The pricing on the 3080Ti is disappointing, however not a surprise after Nvidia increased prices with the 2080Ti. Even with inflation it's clear that Nvidia is just pushing up prices because they can, and people are still willing to pay for overpriced GPUs.

I think the 3080 should've had a price reduction, and the 3080Ti have an MSRP for like $799, but it's not like the MSRP's even mean anything when scalpers are going to buy them up.

[Junction Runner]

Christ the 3080 ti is going to be such an arse fisting in Canada to even consider buying.

[poochyena]

2 hours ago, Spotty said:

LTT filmed their video before the price was released and their video suffered for it. They should have waited until they had all the information about the product before reviewing it.

what difference would it have made? Its a cheaper version of the 3090 with near identical performance. If it were the same price, then I see the issues, but otherwise, its nothing unexpected.

[dizmo]

1 hour ago, yolosnail said:

I disagree, that was the Titan, and now the 3090.

 

The *80Ti was the bang-for-the-buck of the high end, it was getting most of the top end performance for a lower price

Not really. The 3090 makes no sense at all.

[gal-m]

Prices in Slovenia, EU  

 

lmao

 

Not sure where the 3080 Ti will fit into this. There's basically 0 difference between the 3080 and 3090 here 

[sazrocks]

3 hours ago, Spotty said:

LTT filmed their video before the price was released and their video suffered for it. They should have waited until they had all the information about the product before reviewing it.

Agreed. What is the point of filming a review without knowing the price? If it’s Nvidia’s fault that they released the MSRP to reviewers too late, then LTT should have called them out on it, not praised them.

[Kisai]

22 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Not really. The 3090 makes no sense at all.

It only made sense in a workload that you would have used a Titan for to begin with, that's where it slots in.

 

Unfortunately, and this is true of pretty much every GPU since the announcement of the RTX 30xx , what dictates what people need isn't more FPS, but the availability of software to use those features. Big deal if a game supports 4K and HDR, but no gaming 4K HDR monitors exist, let alone at 90, 100, 120, 144hz. https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/best/4k-hdr , everything is either stupidly large or stupidly expensive ($1600-2000) for what little you get.

 

Like I can present the same argument of "why would I pay $2000 for a 27inch 4K monitor that only has mediocre HDR support" in the same way I would go "why would I pay $2000 for a RTX 3090/3080Ti/3080 when I'm not able to get a 4K monitor that benefits from it, nor a game that would justify the cost", there is a complete disconnect at the high end of PC gaming where you spend too much and get nothing over a cheaper model unless you're really willing to set your wallet on fire, and even then, you still are basically getting a poor experience.

 

Like it's really hard to be excited for 8K gaming when 4K gaming still is in a "it sucks" phase, even in the living room. Raytracing features aren't going to impress anyone when fragmentation is still a thing. Heck, there are so many competing HDR standards that https://www.flatpanelshd.com/focus.php?subaction=showfull&id=1559638820 , going to BestBuy to pick up a TV is like going to a paint store and comparing paint swatches... does this TV match my hardware and software to use HDR, or am I just going to have to turn HDR off?

 

So unless you really really really need to replace a GPU less powerful than a GTX 1070, or you're going to do VR, chances are anything above a 3060/3060Ti itself is probably overkill for SDR 1080p60 gaming, and probably sufficient to drive 4K monitors.

[Blademaster91]

57 minutes ago, poochyena said:

what difference would it have made? Its a cheaper version of the 3090 with near identical performance. If it were the same price, then I see the issues, but otherwise, its nothing unexpected.

The prices don't matter because retailers aren't going to list cards at MSRP, but Linus could've at least criticized Nvidia on not giving reviewers any pricing until near the review embargo date. Also LTT recommended the 3080Ti, which is 70% more expensive than a 3080 at MSRP, yet only around 10% faster than a 3080, i think that comes off as being way out of touch.

Although I would rather watch other channels for more informative reviews, LTT really seems as if they have become a channel that does subjective looks at a product instead of actually doing a review.

[RejZoR]

32 minutes ago, gal-m said:

Prices in Slovenia, EU  

 

lmao

 

Not sure where the 3080 Ti will fit into this. There's basically 0 difference between the 3080 and 3090 here 

The RTX 3090 was 3.249€ so it's a bargain now lol. These prices are just made up at this point lmao.

[Helpful Tech Witch]

4 hours ago, Stahlmann said:

 

I pretty much agree most with this:

 

TBH I don't. 

I actually thing Linus is somewhat right.

At the power of a 3090, Nvidia is lifting  some load on a component that there is a shortage of. Now, is it too expensive? Yeah. Is Nvidia making much more off a 3080ti than a 3080? 100% yes. Is the crypto limiter Bs? Yeah, I'm glad Linus pointed out that shit.

 

And the only thing wrong with the 3070ti (which is the one that makes the most sense, 100% wrong with that in the title there), is that it has the mining limiter. For 100$ more, you get bassically the full day ga104, as well as g6x instead of normal g6. It's fine by me there.

[Blademaster91]

7 minutes ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

TBH I don't. 

I actually thing Linus is somewhat right.

At the power of a 3090, Nvidia is lifting  some load on a component that there is a shortage of. Now, is it too expensive? Yeah. Is Nvidia making much more off a 3080ti than a 3080? 100% yes. Is the crypto limiter Bs? Yeah, I'm glad Linus pointed out that shit.

It doesn't have all the power of a 3090, if you need a 3090 you'll probably buy a 3090 because the extra VRAM would be useful. And Nvidia launching another Ti card isn't alleviating any shortages because now the GPU's are even more split up, chips that could have ended up being 3070's are now put into 3080Ti's. Although the 3080Ti has probably been manufactured for months now so they probably have to sell them.

7 minutes ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

And the only thing wrong with the 3070ti (which is the one that makes the most sense, 100% wrong with that in the title there), is that it has the mining limiter. For 100$ more, you get bassically the full day ga104, as well as g6x instead of normal g6. It's fine by me there.

For another $100 the 3070Ti should have 10GB VRAM, faster VRAM isn't worth another $100 to me. if cards were at MSRP then I'd rather spend another $100 and get a faster 3080.

[Helpful Tech Witch]

14 minutes ago, Blademaster91 said:

For another $100 the 3070Ti should have 10GB VRAM, faster VRAM isn't worth another $100 to me. if cards were at MSRP then I'd rather spend another $100 and get a faster 3080.

It’s not just that. The 3070 is a shaved down ga104, the ti one is either a full or almost full ga104. 
it comes down to how fast the 3070 is compaired to a 3080. if it’s close, which I think it will be much closer, even if it used  the same shaved down ga104 that the normal 3070 uses, as the faster vram would have a pretty large affect by itself.

[IkeaGnome]

19 minutes ago, Blademaster91 said:

It doesn't have all the power of a 3090, if you need a 3090 you'll probably buy a 3090 because the extra VRAM would be useful. And Nvidia launching another Ti card isn't alleviating any shortages because now the GPU's are even more split up, chips that could have ended up being 3070's are now put into 3080Ti's. Although the 3080Ti has probably been manufactured for months now so they probably have to sell them.

For another $100 the 3070Ti should have 10GB VRAM, faster VRAM isn't worth another $100 to me. if cards were at MSRP then I'd rather spend another $100 and get a faster 3080.

3090, 3080TI and 3080 use GA102. Each tier is slightly more shaved down. 3070ti uses GA104 with the 3070 using a shaved down GA104.

[rockyroller]

5 hours ago, Stahlmann said:

Well you can't play games with any of them when you want to buy something right now...

 

4 hours ago, dizmo said:

If you're implying you can get AMD cards and can't get Nvidia, you're just wrong?

 

If you can afford the selling price is the new issue.

The older reason for the meme was the nVidia drivers which would cause crashes in some games

[dizmo]

6 minutes ago, rockyroller said:

If you can afford the selling price is the new issue.

The older reason for the meme was the nVidia drivers which would cause crashes in some games

Tons can. It's not that far of a stretch, really.

AMD was the one with poor drivers. Not Nvidia.

[rockyroller]

35 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Tons can. It's not that far of a stretch, really.

AMD was the one with poor drivers. Not Nvidia.

no, it was definitely nVidia cards and drivers which crashed the games during the period. They eventually fixed it, but it took about a year for them to do so. must have been before your time if you can't remember it.

[rockyroller]

No, it was around 2005/6.

I even stopped buying nVidea cards for a few years I was that annoyed at the poor customer support and refusal for months to even accept this was happening to many users.

 

[Brooksie359]

6 hours ago, jaslion said:

It is there but I meant as a noticeable visual difference. We've played both control and are now playing village. We just can't see a difference between turned on or off really when we play them and tend to turn it off if we notice the 2080 struggling when stuff goes down if it is on to basically notice no difference when playing.

 

That is what I meant with not being a must have feature. It is there but there is no real need for it yet as devs got so good at faking things. I do love it for rendering tho as that is a massive help hence the for games part.

I would have to disagree. Control looks better with raytracing and if the performance hit was less I would think most would enable it. Some games I don't notice as much for raytracing but control really does utilize it well and it looks really good. Other games I have found it to be sorta mixed with some making a noticeable difference while others making it hard to tell you turned it on other than the huge drop in frames. I still think the 6900xt is the better deal but I do think raytracing does make a noticeable difference when implemented well. 

[grayperview]

Ngreedia haven't changed I see.

[Brainphrozen]

$1200 what a rip off