Nvidia officially announces "Lite Hash Rate" GPUs for RTX 3060 Ti, 3070, and 3080. Ships late May

[Sorenson]

8 hours ago, Moonzy said:

If it costs half as much but performs half as well, the ROI should be about the same I would think

The ROI will be the same if it’s half the price. Bitcoin is a bubble right now that looks like it’s starting to collapse. It’s already down 23% this month. Also ethereum 2.0 is coming so buying new GPUs to mine seems like a riskier investment by the day if you’re paying scalper prices.

[CTR640]

23 hours ago, Moonzy said:

When everyone has a limiter, there's no limiter

 

only old cards prices that are gonna go to the moon

 

AMD isn't being judgemental, just saying

Do you mean the old cards sold by retailers or customers like scalpers?

 

Only time will tell if LHR editions will hold the same current prices for the non-LHR or not but I doubt the prices will be 'normal'.

[Letgomyleghoe.]

Better hope I get one before May then. 

[Sorenson]

On 5/18/2021 at 6:10 PM, MadAnt250 said:

Mmmmmm, no. The prices may be bad for the rest of the year.

Have you seen what’s happening to Bitcoin?

[Moonzy]

6 hours ago, Sorenson said:

Have you seen what’s happening to Bitcoin?

Honestly, I wouldn't cheer just yet

 

But if I were to judge from the 2017/2018 crash, the price dropped but it was significantly higher than before the bubble, I remember I got into bitcoin around July 2017, it was about $1500 I think

After the crash it was around $5000, with occasionally drop to $3000

 

We'll see what happens

[suicidalfranco]

10 hours ago, Moonzy said:

Honestly, I wouldn't cheer just yet

 

But if I were to judge from the 2017/2018 crash, the price dropped but it was significantly higher than before the bubble, I remember I got into bitcoin around July 2017, it was about $1500 I think

After the crash it was around $5000, with occasionally drop to $3000

 

We'll see what happens

Just buy the dip. I am 100% convinced that in the next decade btc will reach 1 million

[Vangeli]

I’m just so tired. And this won’t help me get a 3090 FE, only make it worse.

 

Maybe this GPU-free rig can just be a monument, to gaming past. Series X plays games well enough, I might be a living room gamer now. So long, Steam, I never caught up with my game library but now I’m freeeeeeeeee!

[rushboarduk]

Even if Nvidia put this down to a 25% LHR, I doubt it would make a dent in miners snatching them up at retail...
 

The only way this will be solved is if all current RTX cards have no hash rate available. If they intend to carry out this stupid "crypto card" lineup, future gaming and rendering cards may even need an HoC on the board to avoid their use for mining.

[Vishera]

1 hour ago, Nacht said:

They should limit 1 gpu per system per driver in the future may have even bigger impact on miners, as sli is not really supported anymore anyway

What about professionals who use multiple GeForce cards?

[Vishera]

Just now, Nacht said:

Professional miners ?

No,people who use graphics cards for work,in workstations.

[Jet_ski]

On 5/18/2021 at 4:52 PM, HelpfulTechWizard said:

My local store has each of them priced at about 200$+. So 3070s for 500, 3080s for 900. I've never seen a 3060ti, 3060, or 3090 there though.

But the 3070 and 3080 are usually there, Asus sends them a couple of each a week or so.

some of that might be because of tariffs and OEM price hikes. 

[X-System]

4 hours ago, Vishera said:

No,people who use graphics cards for work,in workstations.

nVIDIA Quadro ?

[Icarus_Radio]

20 minutes ago, X-System said:

nVIDIA Quadro ?

Well, some professional work does not require any Quadro-specific features. For example, video rendering only needs a large amount of VRAM, multiple RTX 3090's should do the work.

 

By the way, NVIDIA Quadro is just bulls**t, as they limit some features to the Quadro lineup and tell the GeForce users who want to do some professional work "go f**k yourselves and buy a Quadro card". The same thing happens again right now, as they releases the CMP lineup.

[pas008]

1 hour ago, X-System said:

nVIDIA Quadro ?

at the given prices might be better option even for gamers lol

 

oh wait they out of stock too lol

[Moonzy]

5 hours ago, Vishera said:

What about professionals who use multiple GeForce cards?

"Duck everything non-gaming"

- autocorrected gamer, probably

 

Can't wait for LHR cards to release and see if they have their price jacked up to where the current cards are, just to prove a point that miners aren't the main issue, we'll see

[WhitetailAni]

6 hours ago, Nacht said:

They should limit 1 gpu per system per driver in the future may have even bigger impact on miners, as sli is not really supported anymore anyway

That will piss off a lot of people who have multiple GPUs in their system for F@H, like me. And I've only got 2 cards. There are MANY people with 5+ cards for F@H.

 

That's why they won't do it.

[pas008]

12 minutes ago, FakeKGB said:

That will piss off a lot of people who have multiple GPUs in their system for F@H, like me. And I've only got 2 cards. There are MANY people with 5+ cards for F@H.

 

That's why they won't do it.

i use extra cards to drive more monitors

[Blademaster91]

6 hours ago, Nacht said:

They should limit 1 gpu per system per driver in the future may have even bigger impact on miners, as sli is not really supported anymore anyway

That wouldn't work, either someone would find a way around it, and it could probably be bypassed with GPU passthrough, and 1 GPU per system would only punish the people that have a use for more than 1 card for F@H, BOINC, or output to a lot of monitors.

[Quackers101]

36 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

"Duck everything non-gaming"

- autocorrected gamer, probably

Please dont use a duck build, it's quackers!

23 minutes ago, pas008 said:

i use extra cards to drive more monitors

how many monitors do you have or run?

[porina]

35 minutes ago, FakeKGB said:

That will piss off a lot of people who have multiple GPUs in their system for F@H, like me.

That's why they won't do it.

They wont/can't do it for historic cards for much the same reason as LHR cards, that's changing what a product that was already sold was doing. Not saying they have a reason to, but if they did want to, it could also be implemented in future cards in a similar way to LHR.

 

12 minutes ago, Blademaster91 said:

That wouldn't work, either someone would find a way around it, and it could probably be bypassed with GPU passthrough, and 1 GPU per system would only punish the people that have a use for more than 1 card for F@H, BOINC, or output to a lot of monitors.

If they want to lock it down, they can. We've still yet to see the original mining lock broken in any meaningful way, the worst being their own driver blunder.

 

The question will be how to separate out the markets, and provide best value for each. Does a gamer need more than one card in a single system? No, even more so since the demise of SLI. Does a gamer need to drive that many monitors? You can typically connect 4 to a single GPU right now. How many people genuinely use more than that if they're not doing something really niche?

 

The productivity use case is where it gets more complicated. How much gamer-tier software can use more than one GPU? Use cases of dedicating extra hardware to BOINC or folding are extremely niche. I think it would be nice if there was a more affordable pro tier GPU series. Essentially similar to gaming series, with the difference of ECC ram as standard for example. That would be a welcome differentiator to any serious use case, and would in part provide a valid cost delta. Do not confuse this with the high FP64 compute cards which can be another tier in itself.

 

 

[pas008]

2 hours ago, Quackers101 said:

Please dont use a duck build, it's quackers!

how many monitors do you have or run?

5 plus tv but thats off the wall atm