Why Nvidia did Not get in Mind how sad people are now who bought the 2080ti for 2000$

[Sarah242]

and now the 3070 is only 500$ and faster

im proud im still on my r9 390

[Dedayog]

Just now, Sarah242 said:

and now the 3070 is only 500$ and faster

im proud im still on my r9 390

Nvidia doesn't care, I am sure they understand.  

 

Link those 3070 vs 2080Ti benchmark numbers when you get a chance.

[spartaman64]

what do you mean? and we knew this was coming for months so they only have themselves to blame if they bought it recently

[Tristerin]

NVIDIA isn't here to make you happy, or sad.  Just to take your money.  Capitalism doesn't have feelings.

[Moonzy]

you're right

they should've priced the 3070 at $1499, that way everyone is happy _{including nvidia}

 

Nvidia:

[agent2]

Yeah who gives a crap about those idiots who bought an overpriced obsolete Graphics Card? NVIDIA sure AF doesn't care. I sure don't feel sad for them. 

[Sarah242]

58 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

you're right

they should've priced the 3070 at $1499, that way everyone is happy

 

from 2000$ to 500 $ and is Faster 

this should teach everyone to be patient

[.Apex.]

It's on them if they saw a 30% performance improvement over the 2080 for double the price as a worthy investment, but as others have said NVIDIA doesn't care they're a company that wants to make money like any other, and surprise, technology advances.

[Rohith_Kumar_Sp]

I'd like to point out, you are the same type of ppl who got CDPR to raise to price outside of USA because some dumbass complained it was cheaper on steam compared to GOG, so they Increased the price on BOTH removing the regional pricing. thanks for nothing. 

[Moonzy]

Just now, Sarah242 said:

from 2000$ to 500 $ and is Faster 

this should teach everyone to be patient

no point waiting unless you know a launch is coming in weeks/days

newer and better tech is always coming out, so you'll never finish the waiting game

buy whatever you need at the time, and be happy with it, no point comparing it with newer stuff because it's not like you could've bought them 1 year ago or smth

[Lurick]

12 minutes ago, Sarah242 said:

and now the 3070 is only 500$ and faster

im proud im still on my r9 390

I've got a secret to tell you.

If you wait 2 more years then something even faster than the 3090 is coming out!!!!! And a few years beyond that something even FASTER is coming out!

 

There is ALWAYS something on the horizon, if you can't be happy with what you have you'll never be happy.

[Mister Woof]

 

[Sarah242]

58 minutes ago, Lurick said:

I've got a secret to tell you.

If you wait 2 more years then something even faster than the 3090 is coming out!!!!! And a few years beyond that something even FASTER is coming out!

 

There is ALWAYS something on the horizon, if you can't be happy with what you have you'll never be happy.

i know there is always something faster my point was it's Not fair for people who bought it for 2000$ and now they released a faster card for 500$

for me im still on my r9 390 so i dont care

[Mister Woof]

Just now, Sarah242 said:

i know there is always something faster my point was it's Not fair for people who bought it for 2000$ and now they released a faster card for 500$

for me im still on my r9 390 so i dont care

RTX 2080 ti

 

Meet i7-7700k

 

They can like, form a support group or something.

[Moonzy]

Just now, Sarah242 said:

it's Not fair

how? no one forced them to buy it

they bought it willingly, as they think it's worth it

[Lurick]

Just now, Sarah242 said:

i know there is always something faster my point was it's Not fair for people who bought it for 2000$ and now they released a faster card for 500$

for me im still on my r9 390 so i dont care

How is it not fair? Life isn't fair and as technology advances prices go down.

Is it not fair to someone who bought a 9800 GT several years ago that the GT 1030 smokes it?

[trag1c]

Welcome to the ever evolving world of technology and consumerism. You buy something on Monday and its obsolete by Tuesday.

[Delicieuxz]

The 2000 series was a total rip-off, price-to-performance-wise. That was known when they released, and so anybody paying top-dollar for a 2000 series card should have been aware of that when buying it. And because they were a rip-off, not many people bought them - according to the Steam hardware survey stats.

 

I think that Nvidia want to sell a lot more GPUs this time around. To do that, they have to offer a lot more performance per dollar than they did with the 2000 series. Nvidia also want to get in-front of the upcoming Xbox and PS consoles and draw as many people away from them and towards purchasing Nvidia GPUs as possible, and that can't be accomplished unless Nvidia offer a way better deal this time than they did with the 2000 series.

 

If the 2000 series had been priced reasonably, then the 3000 series wouldn't seem like such a huge increase in price-to-performance, and maybe the 3000 series would just seem normal.

 

30 minutes ago, Sarah242 said:

i know there is always something faster my point was it's Not fair for people who bought it for 2000$ and now they released a faster card for 500$

for me im still on my r9 390 so i dont care

 

It wouldn't be fair to anybody if there wasn't a price correction on GPUs. If they remained a rip-off, then everybody who purchased another GPU any time in the future would be screwed-over.

[VeganJoy]

9 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

you're right

they should've priced the 3070 at $1499, that way everyone is happy _{including nvidia}

 

Nvidia:

honestly theres enough fools who dont care how much the damn thing costs that they couldve charged more for the same performance and still made a shit ton of money

[Moonzy]

1 minute ago, VeganJoy said:

honestly theres enough fools who dont care how much the damn thing costs that they couldve charged more for the same performance and still made a shit ton of money

i honestly did not expect a significant increase in price to perf

was expecting 20% more perf for slightly higher MSRP than last time

[Delicieuxz]

1 minute ago, VeganJoy said:

honestly theres enough fools who dont care how much the damn thing costs that they couldve charged more for the same performance and still made a shit ton of money

The Steam hardware stats showing that very few people bought 2000 series GPUs suggests otherwise.

 

Steam's stats show that 10.47% of their users have 2000 series GPUs. But 31.81% of their users are using 1000 series GPUs. That means that the vast majority of people did not choose to upgrade to a 2000 series GPU. And the lot price-to-performance of them is likely why many people didn't.

[Sir Beregond]

1 hour ago, Sarah242 said:

and now the 3070 is only 500$ and faster

im proud im still on my r9 390

I have no sympathy for anyone who bought a $1200 graphics card. You knew you were getting shafted and bought it anyway.

 

We also have no actual benchmark data on the 3070 vs the 2080 Ti yet on performance so it is premature to just take Nvidia marketing for what it's worth and call it "faster". If you noticed on their graph, it was on the same level as the 2080 Ti, not above it. My speculation is it will win some, lose some. Its strength will probably be in next gen Tensor/RT cores over the 2080 Ti for titles that support RT/DLSS, otherwise the rest of its stats look worse to me. It's 8GB instead of 11GB of GDDR6 with less bandwidth (256-bit vs 352-bit). We also don't have solid CUDA core performance data yet as these cores are fundamentally different between Turing and Ampere. 3070 does have higher clocks though, but we don't know how the overclocking for Ampere is yet while we do for the 2080 Ti. We'll just have to see how it shakes out.

[VeganJoy]

9 minutes ago, Delicieuxz said:

The Steam hardware stats showing that very few people bought 2000 series GPUs suggests otherwise.

 

Steam's stats show that 10.47% of their users have 2000 series GPUs. But 31.81% of their users are using 1000 series GPUs. That means that the vast majority of people did not choose to upgrade to a 2000 series GPU. And the lot price-to-performance of them is likely why many people didn't.

does that count in 16 series gpus? because the 1060/1070 should be by far the most popular pascal cards (if not the most popular overall, aside from the 580 and other amd cards), which are paralleled by the 1660 super and such

[xg32]

1 hour ago, Sarah242 said:

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Corporations don't and will never truly care about this kinda stuff. 

 

I get that you are trying to make a point, but the card was 1200usd at launch, not 2000usd

 

I think people understood the risks of being first adapters. Even when turing launched reviewers said that it doesn't even do 1080p/60fps with RT on, or that DLSS is a blurry mess.

 

Turing's yields were also so bad that it was estimate to cost nvidia 500usd for each 2080 ti, so despite the lower prices of ampere, margins are guaranteed to be higher.

 

Anyway, sad isn't how i'd describe it, it was expected, it'd be hysterical if the 3070 really does beat the 2080 ti in rast performance. 

 

Still the 2080 ti was the fastest single card for 2 years, and there was the price tag for owning one. I don't regret it, and don't feel bad for 2080 ti owners.

 

 

[Delicieuxz]

11 minutes ago, VeganJoy said:

does that count in 16 series gpus? because the 1060/1070 should be by far the most popular pascal cards (if not the most popular overall, aside from the 580 and other amd cards), which are paralleled by the 1660 super and such

Those percentages don't include the 1650 and 1660 cards. 9.72% respondents to the Steam hardware survey have GTX 16XX series GPUs.

 

So, just about as many people bought those as bought 2000 series cards.