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The new Joker movie is so "dark" people are actually walking out

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https://www.popbuzz.com/tv-film/news/joker-movie-2019-joaquin-phoenix-dark/

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There's been a lot of talk about the latest Joker movie, which stars Joaquin Phoenix as Arthur Fleck, who would later become the iconic Batman villain. The DC Comics movie was released on Friday (4 Oct) and has already grossed $234 million (£188 million) worldwide, making it a box office hit.

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Unsurprisingly, the movie has not been without controversy. There have been growing concerns that the movie is too "violent", glorifies revenge killing and might encourage gun violence. It has also had some backlash for upholding the stigma that mental health issues make people become more violent, when in fact people with mental health issues are more at risk of being victims of violence.

Apparently, police in the US were considering patrolling cinemas to keep audiences safe, especially after gunman James Holmes opened fire at a Colorado cinema during a screening of The Dark Knight Rises in 2012, killing 12 people and injuring 70.

Apparently, people have even walked out of the movie and said it should be "banned" because of the violent scenes.

Did these people balls drop off after the movie? Aren't Joker suppose to be funny and violent at the same time? I didn't watch the new Joker movie, but I did watch the Dark Knight Rises movie and the Joker actor in that movie is really good. Anything can encourage gun violence, not just this movie alone. Why this movie and not other movies filled with violence, killing, and possibility encourage gun control?

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lol Lego Batman (DC) is best batman movie

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idk if this is tech news...

 

but didnt they realise that this is R-18+, what the hell did they expect from this movie

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Not really tech news but the only reason they are saying this is because the news said it first. No one cares the movie is violent and no one would of said anything if news outlets weren't spamming BRING YOUR CONCEALED CARRY TO THIS MOVIE OR GET SHOT IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD INSTANTLY WHEN IT STARTS

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3 minutes ago, OlympicAssEater said:

it should be "banned" because of the violent scenes.

the same was said for South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut but i don't see it banned...

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There are fanfictions far worse than this.

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3 minutes ago, SenKa said:

You would know!

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I saw the movie and enjoyed it. While the movie is graphic and definitely not for all ages it’s far from the most grisly movie I’ve seen. Demanding a ban on a movie based on its content is just absurd. 

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theres a difference guys

its the joker, rated R or not the joker has never been grotesque

can we all stop trying to push boundaries? its a cartoon character that has been around for a long time, there is a bar for the joker.

people are clearly sick of the dark movie phase.

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1 minute ago, RelativeMono said:

theres a difference guys

its the joker, rated R or not the joker has never been grotesque

can we all stop trying to push boundaries? its a cartoon character that has been around for a long time, there is a bar for the joker.

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5 minutes ago, RelativeMono said:

theres a difference guys

its the joker, rated R or not the joker has never been grotesque

can we all stop trying to push boundaries? its a cartoon character that has been around for a long time, there is a bar for the joker.

people are clearly sick of the dark movie phase.

Joker has never been grotesque!?

 

Joker is the character that forced the CCA to ban violent graphic images in comics in the 50's.

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Just now, MrFixitBlankFace said:

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? yes youve contributed a lot to the discussion.

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Joker has never been grotesque!?

 

Joker is the character that forced the CCA to ban graphics in comics in the 50's.

cool, thats not now, the joker was never depicted like a real person.

ive not even seen the movie and ive only read things on it, is it actually as bad as people are making it out to be?

I dont pay for hollywood to feed their kids so ill watch it a few months down the line.

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Just now, RelativeMono said:

? yes youve contributed a lot to the discussion.

You said keep Joker like the cartoon character and I showed a gif of the Joker played by Jack Nichleson in the 1989 Batman which is the most similar to the cartoon Joker.

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> Daily Mail as a source

 

Haven't watched the flick but the 68 % critic score on Rotten Tomatoes makes me want to.

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1 minute ago, RelativeMono said:

cool, thats not now, the joker was never depicted like a real person.

ive not even seen the movie and ive only read things on it, is it actually as bad as people are making it out to be?

I dont pay for hollywood to feed their kids so ill watch it a few months down the line.

Also wrong. Joker has been shown to be a 'real person' throughout a good bit of his history. Joker has been through countless iterations as a character, which is fitting to his character. But I would argue he is "like a real person" in:

 

Comics and TV from 1951-1966

 

Dark Knight Rises (he is depicted in a similar though more joker-y fashion to the old comics mentioned above)

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2 minutes ago, SenKa said:

Joker has never been grotesque!?

Repeatedly smashing a crowbar into someone until they are less than a quivering pile of pulp, cutting off and wearing one's own face (sometimes upside down), and throwing a baby at a woman to disarm and kill her (then leaving the dead body and a bunch of babies locked up) is totally kosher.

 

 

 

 

What's really grotesque is DC's shitty writing. I'm still trying to fathom how killing the Joker, or ANY of the serial murderers, puts that person on the same level and they are somehow just as bad as said serial killer and beyond redemption.

Come Bloody Angel

Break off your chains

And look what I've found in the dirt.

 

Pale battered body

Seems she was struggling

Something is wrong with this world.

 

Fierce Bloody Angel

The blood is on your hands

Why did you come to this world?

 

Everybody turns to dust.

 

Everybody turns to dust.

 

The blood is on your hands.

 

The blood is on your hands!

 

Pyo.

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6 minutes ago, SenKa said:

Also wrong. Joker has been shown to be a 'real person' throughout a good bit of his history. Joker has been through countless iterations as a character, which is fitting to his character. But I would argue he is "like a real person" in:

 

Comics and TV from 1951-1966

 

Dark Knight Rises (he is depicted in a similar though more joker-y fashion to the old comics mentioned above)

k dude, saying "yes hes was *nod*"

and citing comics and tv and dark knight rises is not an argument.

they show humanity or cartoony, not a character profile you should be revolted by, heath ledgers was not real by a long shot

thats the difference by real and not real, in reality, you are revolted by someone like the joker.

If I had one wish, I would ask for a big enough ass for the whole world to kiss

 

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The Dark Knight was just as dark if not darker. Heath Ledger died due to his time playing the Joker, because he had to get himselve to that "Place" to get the character right. Personally I felt the New Joker movie was sorta a prequel, to what Heath Ledger's Joker. My dad felt the movie was 1.5 hours of bull shit and 30 Mins of good content.

 

***** Spoiler *****

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Though it was kinda fucked up seeing Robert De Niro get his head blown off

 

I just want to sit back and watch the world burn. 

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3 minutes ago, Genwyn said:

Are we forgetting “bombing a hospital”?

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heath ledgers joker was arguably very, very human, and very very violent

 

The difference is that 2019’s Joker is meant to be a much darker movie and portray the violence of the joker much more intensively.

The joker is an extremely violent and brutal character, it’s just the first time we’re seeing that characters violence on screen in full detail rather than limited to just the comics. Previous jokers had to conform to an overall content continuity of the rest of the movie. With the Joker being the focus in an R rated movie, there was nothing to hold back on. The full detail of the character was able to be explored, and the joker without restriction is violent.

thats why people dont like it, because they didnt hold back and just let their degenerate fantasies run free.

but what they didnt do is actually make a movie about the joker.

If I had one wish, I would ask for a big enough ass for the whole world to kiss

 

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