9900KS in October (and other Intel news)

[porina]

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The new Core i9–9900KS is the first CPU to offer a 5.0 GHz all-core turbo clock speed, taking the gaming performance leadership we have with the 9th Gen desktop product line and making it even better. This capability will allow games that depend on IPC and frequency, more than just raw core count, to offer better and more consistent frame rates. We showed press Hitman 2 running on the new 9900KS with all 16 threads running at 5.0 GHz with a light per-core load, further driving home the point that what gamers need is better overall performance, not just higher core counts.

https://medium.com/performance-at-intel/real-world-performance-ifa-without-compromise-9f2dff21c277

Note this is a blog by Ryan Shrout, Chief Performance Strategist at Intel. This is an official blog off-site, with a stated aim of providing better communication to the tech community without marketing getting in the way. Let's see how he does with that...

 

So on the first part, the 9900KS with all core 5 GHz is almost upon us. It is interesting to note it is an all core turbo of 5 GHz, not a base clock. So, it wont surprise anyone that power consumption could be interesting. A "light per-core load" was specifically mentioned, implying 5 GHz turbo wont necessarily apply to all workload cases. This is not unexpected, we already have AVX offset, and Zen 2 isn't immune to that either as it boosts less under similar loads.

 

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Intel has dramatic changes coming next month for the X-series and HEDT (high-end desktop market) line as well. The new family of products code-named Cascade Lake-X will offer up to 2x the performance per dollar of the previous generation. Though it is too early to talk about the specifics of how we are accomplishing this, you will see soon enough our commitment to the X-series and W-series families across Intel.

Intel HEDT users may be interested to note here a claim of "2x the performance per dollar" compared to current gen. There is a chart showing how Skylake-X compares against TR2, and Cascade Lake-X reaching double that. Before AMD fans shout TR3, Intel can only compare with what exists. TR3 will surely give a nice boost over TR2 also, so it will be interesting to see how that lines up when we eventually hear about it. On TR3, last solid info I saw was that Su said she'll talk about it this year.

 

There's also some stuff about mobile but I stopped reading at that point. 

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[TVwazhere]

All these extra suffix's on existing CPU SKU's make me wanna 9900K^MS

 

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[PlayStation 2]

Intel Core i9-9900KSCQXRSTUVWXYZ huh?

[RejZoR]

Well, I can see this CPU make sense for someone who is primarily a gamer and only gamer and can't be bothered fiddling with BIOS in any way or shape. Just slap this in a system with decent cooler and it'll do 5GHz. It's still 16 threads CPU so it'll do other loads fine as well.

[leadeater]

8 minutes ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

Intel Core i9-9900KSCQXRSTUVWXYZ huh?

I like the original rumor, 9900KFC.

[yolosnail]

WOW! It's just a 9900K with MCE enabled from the factory. Nothing literally any other 9900K couldn't do

 

Let me just fire up the nuclear power plant in my garden to power it, probably needs the cooling solution of a nuclear power plant as well!

[porina]

7 minutes ago, yolosnail said:

WOW! It's just a 9900K with MCE enabled from the factory. Nothing literally any other 9900K couldn't do

MCE is a motherboard feature, not something in the CPU. MCE is also an overclock. 9900KS isn't when operating at 5 GHz.

 

I never looked at silicon lottery, is the 9900K 100% 5 GHz capable? Even then, I'd take a CPU that Intel says is stable at 5 GHz long before I'd take one from silicon lottery, as their test method is limited in scope.

 

As long as we're not getting another P3 1.13 GHz again for those with longer memories...

[yolosnail]

1 minute ago, porina said:

MCE is a motherboard feature, not something in the CPU. MCE is also an overclock. 9900KS isn't when operating at 5 GHz.

 

I never looked at silicon lottery, is the 9900K 100% GHz capable? Even then, I'd take a CPU that Intel says is stable at 5 GHz long before I'd take one from silicon lottery, as their test method is limited in scope.

 

As long as we're not getting another P3 1.13 GHz again for those with longer memories...

That's why I'm saying it's just enabled from the factory.

All MCE does is enable the single core boost on all cores, which is exactly what the difference between the 9900K and 9900KS is.

[porina]

3 minutes ago, yolosnail said:

All MCE does is enable the single core boost on all cores, which is exactly what the difference between the 9900K and 9900KS is.

Because MCE is an overclock, it isn't guaranteed stable, and likely over-volts trying to avoid instability leading to more excessive power consumption.

[thorhammerz]

8 minutes ago, yolosnail said:

which is exactly what the difference between the 9900K and 9900KS is.

The base clock of the 9900KS is higher as well (4.0 vs 3.6), which effectively means these chips are the upper bins of the 8-core wafers, assuming the 'nominal' TDP of these things remain at 95w area (unstated at the moment).

 

Functionally, they will probably be to the 9900k as the 8086k was to the 8700k.

[Princess Luna]

I guess I'll go to registry and rename my i9 9900K to i9 9900KS since it's already at 5ghz... you know, it's free bragging rights!

[TrigrH]

i9 9900KYS 2020

[AlTech]

5 hours ago, leadeater said:

I like the original rumor, 9900KFC.

Somehow I have a feeling Yum Brands wouldn't have found it delicious .

[Flying Sausages]

$500 USD +

 

My wallet goes to Ryzen

[justpoet]

I mean…if we're just adding more letters…why can't it be the 9900KMFDM?  That'd be some sweet metal, as well as recognizing that intel has no pity for the majority of wallets.

[williamcll]

Yes but when will we get the i9-9900HKS lap melter?

 

EDIT: Guess I'm right after all, check recent tech news updates from me.

[schwellmo92]

Can’t wait to pay Intel $200 to pre-overclock a CPU for me.

[GoldenLag]

56 minutes ago, schwellmo92 said:

Can’t wait to pay Intel $200 to pre-overclock a CPU for me.

i mean, some pay AMD 80$ for not overclocking the CPU and just giving you the same product with higher powerconsumption. i dont see people Reeeee-ing about that. not that you are ree-ing. its just that this isnt exactly uncommon practise at this point

[realpetertdm]

So this 9900KS is basically a 9900K that won the silicon lottery. Nice

[williamcll]

3 hours ago, schwellmo92 said:

Can’t wait to pay Intel $200 to pre-overclock a CPU for me.

Have you seen the silicon lottery prices for overclocked 3900X?

 

[Fnige]

14 hours ago, yolosnail said:

Let me just fire up the nuclear power plant in my garden to power it, probably needs the cooling solution of a nuclear power plant as well!

Nuclear plants have cooling, I'd thought there be but never fully actually thought about it

[CTR640]

9900SMDH

[GoldenLag]

1 hour ago, SlimyPython said:

Nuclear plants have cooling, I'd thought there be but never fully actually thought about it

fun fact. nuclear plants use isolating materials to trap heat. they only exchange heat with the outside to drive turbines. these are not directly connected to the liquid used in the reactor. also the water in the reactor is hotter than boiling because 10 atmospheres of pressure is used. 

 

[The King of the Undead]

9900KC.