Intel next gen Xeon Scalable will use new sockets

[NumLock21]

Intel's upcoming Xeon scalable processors code name Cooper Lake and Ice Lake will be using new sockets. The sockets are LGA4189-4 and LGA4189-5.
 

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E offers LGA4189-4 and LGA3189-5 sockets (which are called Socket P4 and Socket P5), appropriate backplates, compatible bolster plates, mounting mechanisms, and dust covers. As discovered previously, Intel’s next-generation Xeon Scalable processors in LGA4189 packaging will feature a native eight-channel memory controller and PCIe 4.0, with at least eight channel memory on standard configurations.

One interesting thing to note is that TE Connectivity will offer Intel’s LGA 4189 socket in two versions: the LGA4189-4 (branded as Socket P4) and the LGA4189-5 (branded as Socket P5). Being a socket maker, TE indicates that key features of Socket P4 and Socket P5 are the same: they have the same pin count, the same 0.9906 mm hex pitch, the same SP height of 2.7 mm, and the same mounting mechanisms. Meanwhile, the company does not disclose why Intel needed two separate 4189-pin sockets. Keeping in mind that Intel will have two next-generation Xeon Scalable processors — codenamed Cooper Lake and Ice Lake — it looks like that the the single-die CPUs and multi-die CPUs will use different sockets and will not be pin-to-pin compatible despite the fact that they are going to use the same platform.

 

 

 

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14815/intels-lga4189-socket-for-xeon-scalable-cooper-lake-ice-lake-cpus-now-available

 

 

 

[Taf the Ghost]

Some big ones.

[TheSLSAMG]

4 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Some big ones.

 

[scottyseng]

I'm curious to see how large CPU sockets will be in the future with the core wars going on.

[leadeater]

I mean this isn't unexpected, changing socket is par for the course when it comes to new Xeon product lineups. At best you get a generation then a refresh then yay new socket and chipset.

[Fnige]

49 minutes ago, scottyseng said:

I'm curious to see how large CPU sockets will be in the future with the core wars going on.

*insert image of mega CPU socket*

[HomeBoi]

In before Intel Weon full wafer socket

 

[Fnige]

1 hour ago, HomeBoi said:

In before Intel Weon full wafer socket

 

Weon... Ik thats a spelling mistake but it just sounds funny

 

Derpy Xeon = Weon

^{im not trying to be mean.}

[TechyBen]

3 hours ago, scottyseng said:

I'm curious to see how large CPU sockets will be in the future with the core wars going on.

3D stacking when?

[RejZoR]

Was anyone even surprised that Intel is releasing yet another socket?

[Phas3L0ck]

27 minutes ago, RejZoR said:

Was anyone even surprised that Intel is releasing yet another socket?

Half and half... I figured they'd do it eventually, but I never believed that just after the astonishing LGA3647 design came out, there would be a socket with over FOUR THOUSAND PINS like a year (give or take) since Xeon Scalable became a thing!

 

But I really want to know about the upcoming 56-core Xeon Platinum 9282 that runs at 400 WATTS!!!!

[5x5]

Intel releasing a new socket is like EA releasing a new FIFA game. Its annual and intended to milk money.

[williamcll]

What is the use of PCIE4 in enterprise use?

[Animal901]

To think intel could just reuse  lga1366... lol 

[rcmaehl]

STOP!

 

If sockets keep getting larger and larger how will companies make niche ITX boards anymore? Threadripper ITX when?
 

 

[leadeater]

4 hours ago, williamcll said:

What is the use of PCIE4 in enterprise use?

200/400Gbps networking, more cards using x4 interfaces instead of x8, more usable slots since x4 would cover more uses, and the big one (other than 200/400Gbps networking) double the number of NVMe devices or double the throughput using the same amount.

[S w a t s o n]

2 hours ago, rcmaehl said:

STOP!

Just give it a decade or so when people are rolling out 3D CPUs

[rcmaehl]

1 minute ago, S w a t s o n said:

Just give it a decade or so when people are rolling out 3D CPUs

Oh god, I can see it now?

Why is my Intel i13-19990x running so hot?
Well, you see, you're running a Corsair h60 v11. While this AIO has good vertical cooling, the horizontal cooling is crap. Consider upgrading to a cooler that can handle more horizontal thermal load.

[jagdtigger]

3 hours ago, rcmaehl said:

If sockets keep getting larger and larger how will companies make niche ITX boards anymore?

CPU on one side and everything else on the other? The only mod needed for most cases is a higher standoff .

[TechyBen]

1 hour ago, rcmaehl said:

Oh god, I can see it now?

Why is my Intel i13-19990x running so hot?
Well, you see, you're running a Corsair h60 v11. While this AIO has good vertical cooling, the horizontal cooling is crap. Consider upgrading to a cooler that can handle more horizontal thermal load.

Quantum tunnelling cooling solutions when???

[rcmaehl]

11 minutes ago, jagdtigger said:

CPU on one side and everything else on the other? The only mod needed for most cases is a higher standoff .

I mean we already have M.2 Slots on the otherside of ITX boards... why not other components. 

[rcmaehl]

1 minute ago, VegetableStu said:

"AM I A JOKE TO YOU GUYS?!" - Asus's motherboard system prototype

 

[porina]

2 hours ago, VegetableStu said:

not sure how PCIe4 would handle with a riser like that o_o (although being a hard card might have its merits along the transmission length)

A designed-for solution like this would be at significant advantage over a generic extender. Anything that could affect signal integrity can be allowed for. In the generic extender scenario, it is plug and pray.

[dfsdfgfkjsefoiqzemnd]

With how fast Intel is coming up with new sockets, I predict that in 2 or 3 generations every single SKU will have its own socket. 

[BigDamn]

Intel, who?