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28c Intel W-3175X Reviews; $1700 motherboard?

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Update: Embargo actually lifted today, so there are more reviews. Added to the bottom. Also, Der8auer delidded his.

 

 

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From Tech Jesus & crew:

 

 

Launching at around 3000USD with motherboards that won't be in retail, we have Intel going a bit nuts in the HEDT platform. But, at least it brings it at the tasks you would want this for.

 

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However, that power comes at a real power cost.

 

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And now we see why the motherboards really want 2 PSUs. Toasty.

 

My Thoughts:

 

I appreciate GN actually running game benchmarks. Not that you couldn't spec out a great gaming system for the price of the motherboard in this system alone, I guess it's nice to know it'd do fine. Though I'm disappointed that Civ 6 result wasn't a lot faster. I look forward to the return of the Pizza Heater Computer build, this time by Alex with his CnC machine, because what else would LMG do with this thing?

 

 

Other Reviews:

 

https://hothardware.com/reviews/intel-xeon-w-3175x-28-core-cpu-review#FRt692x6JL7r1grW.02

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-xeon-w-3175x-cpu,5976.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#xtor=RSS-5

https://www.anandtech.com/show/13748/the-intel-xeon-w-3175x-review-28-unlocked-cores-2999-usd

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3336223/components-processors/intel-xeon-w-3975x-review-28-core-cpu.html

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not worth it. only ppl who can really use this is maybe really extreme overclockers and/or ppl who are so rich they can just have the best thing at all times.

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Things that make me happy : 
How much of an upgrade from my 4790k all of this will be in a year or two xD 

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1 minute ago, VegetableStu said:

HOLY SHIT THEY GOT ONE?! O_O JESUS CHRIST

Someone was testing this in SiSoft the other day and hit 504w. I guess that was GN.

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2990W costs significantly less, performs about the same, and consumes less power. Yeah Intel has lost it's brain

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2990W costs significantly less, performs about the same, and consumes less power. Yeah Intel has lost it's brain

I didn't clip it, but there's one program (Premiere) that can really leverage the platform well. But that's more Adobe than necessarily the AMD CPUs. There's also the Windows fix for TR that'll come in the future.

 

But, let's be honest. We know AMD is going to be rolling up with at least 48 core parts by August.

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So... 1k more, performs pretty much on Par with AMD when both are stock. When OC'd it requires 250w more. 

 

Who is this processor for? Who would buy it over AMDs offerings?

CPU: Amd 7800X3D | GPU: AMD 7900XTX

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9 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

I didn't clip it, but there's one program (Premiere) that can really leverage the platform well. But that's more Adobe than necessarily the AMD CPUs. There's also the Windows fix for TR that'll come in the future.

 

But, let's be honest. We know AMD is going to be rolling up with at least 48 core parts by August.

Yeah I saw it too. Adobe is a mess though lol. It was only a savings of 10 minutes or less. Which I don't think I could justify spending $3000 more for. Also I wonder if GN is using Wendells TR windows fix?

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1 minute ago, Tedny said:

Microsoft haven't said anything about fixing TR bug 

Right but Wendell over on Level1Tech has fixed it himself

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took them long enough

Just now, BuckGup said:

Right but Wendell over on Level1Tech has fixed it himself

more like we found a band aid 

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4 minutes ago, Tedny said:

oh, so you can now use Windows with TR, yea. Do you have link? 

Yeah 

Links for the tool are in the Youtube video

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4 minutes ago, cj09beira said:

took them long enough

more like we found a band aid 

Yeah it seems to work very well though 

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Almost 700 watts???????? Thats enough to have to pay a high premium for a PSU and having to actually consider electricity costs into running the thing. This CPU will cost twice as much as threadripper just to run it.

Time is money, but if this cpu is costing more money than it is saving in time, then its not worth it.

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16 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

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I bet the price of this kit will be appropriate in comparison to the 28c Xeon. 

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4 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

you and everyone both, LOL

When you lose IMC silicon lottery with a $3000 CPU and now you can't take full advantage of your $2000 RAM kit. 

($2000 for that kit is also probably a understatement). 

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3 hours ago, bcredeur97 said:

not worth it. only ppl who can really use this is maybe really extreme overclockers and/or ppl who are so rich they can just have the best thing at all times.

People who need that kind of CPU power will probably use them as well.

 

Not necessarily the extreme overclockers or enthusiasts, but I could see these being used in virtualization systems where upwards of 6 VMs are being ran at a single time. As well as potential use in servers or extremely high end workstations.

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7 hours ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Though I'm disappointed that Civ 6 result wasn't a lot faster.

Civ6 on the whole technical wise is disappointing. I would have hoped being a TBS they would have done for good scaling across many threads but no they went near fixed thread count and that means frequency is all that matters (mostly).

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4 hours ago, WereCat said:

I bet the price of this kit will be appropriate in comparison to the 28c Xeon. 

actually probably about double

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intel is fukkd with these products, their design model increases prices non linearly to cores, it doesnt scale well too expensive

until they get their new chiplet/chip stacking designs out AMD will  be way ahead

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Why wasn't the OC'd Threadripper tested in the first graph...but its power consumption smack in the middle as an Overclock for power draw - looks like intentional placement to try to make it look like the Threadripper used a ton of power as well, to reach the score in the first picture.

 

Its why I don't watch certain reviewers.  Its misleading by default.

 

When in reality the Threadripper smashes.  In the test and power draw and in the price bracket.  Still.

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The chip price is better than expected but dat $1700 mobo and 2 power supplies requirement, utterly ridiculous

 

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2 hours ago, leadeater said:

Civ6 on the whole technical wise is disappointing. I would have hoped being a TBS they would have done for good scaling across many threads but no they went near fixed thread count and that means frequency is all that matters (mostly).

It also seems that AC:O maxes out thread usage around 32. So, at least we found the scaling limit there.

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