[updated] Asetek demands Gigabyte and AMD to cease sales of the 980 Water Force and Fury X on infringement claims

[zMeul]

source: http://www.gamersnexus.net/industry/2217-asetek-demands-cessation-of-fury-x-and-waterforce-sales
 
do you recall the Asetek suit against CoolerMaster? do you also recall Asetek commenting on the Fury X cooling solution being similar to Seidon 120V? http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/455172-fury-x-price-might-be-affected-by-a-cooler-master-suit-vs-asetek/
well, Asetek went full berserk and now they're demanding AMD to stop selling of their Radeon R9 Fury X and GigaByte for their GTX 980 Water Force
 

 

 

 

Asetek’s attorneys have recently sent cease and desist letters to Gigabyte, demanding that it cease selling Giga-Byte’s GEFORCE GTX 980 Water Force (sold under at least model number GV-N980WAOC-4GD) because it contains the Seidon 120M found by the court to infringe Asetek’s patents. 
 
Asetek’s attorneys have also written a cease and desist letter to AMD, demanding that it stop selling its Radeon R9 Fury X product, because it infringes Asetek’s patents.  Our attorneys have had some difficulty obtaining a Gigabyte GV-N98TXTREME W-6GD, but we expect to receive and analyze one very soon for infringement.

 
Asetek wrote to GamersNexus:

There is no licensing agreement in place with Cooler Master, nor do we plan to offer any in the foreseeable future.  Asetek sued Cooler Master and CMI USA, Inc. (Cooler Master’s US affiliate) for infringement of Asetek’s US Patent Nos. 8,240,362 and 8,245,764, and the jury found that the Cooler Master products at issue infringe Asetek’s patents and awarded damages to Asetek.  The judge also entered an injunction prohibiting Cooler Master and CMI USA from importing or selling the accused products in the US, and the judge awarded enhanced damages because of continued sales after the jury’s verdict.  The injunction states ‘[a]s used herein, Infringing Products shall mean the following Cooler Master products: Seidon 120M, Seidon 120XL, Seidon 240M, Seidon 120V, Seidon 120V Plus, Nepton 140XL, [Nepton 280L], Glacer 240L, and products not more than colorably different from them.

 
why is this happening? apparently, CM did not comply with the court's decision and Asetek demand stop of all sales and seeking double royalties pay for non-compliance
initially, Asetek was granted by court's decision 14.5% royalties for all infringing products
 
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holy shit batman! I totally saw this coming 
if AMD will stop selling their Fury X it will a major blow to their income; and the possibly bad part ... their upcoming "Gemini" dual-Fury X card, if used with the same CLC might not even make it to market until they redesign the CLC
 
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update Dec 7th: http://www.gamersnexus.net/industry/2220-amd-response-to-asetek-cnd-on-fury-x
AMD responds to Asetek cease and desist letter:

We are aware that Asetek has sued Cooler Master. While we defer to Cooler Master regarding the details of the litigation, we understand that the jury in that case did not find that the Cooler Master heat sink currently used with the Radeon Fury X infringed any of Asetek’s patents.

[Morgan MLGman]

if AMD will stop selling their Fury X it will a major blow to their income;

I don't think that'll happen. But even if it did, I wouldn't say it would be a 'major' blow, most people buy a 980Ti within that budget anyway, if they stopped selling 380's/390's, THAT would be a major blow.

[The_Stig]

Seriously though, it wont make much of a difference as most people buy a 980ti at that price point anyway

[FunkyFeatures]

Asetek staaaahp!

y u do dis 2 us, you aren't exactly contributing to anything by doing this!

[AresKrieger]

I don't think that'll happen. But even if it did, I wouldn't say it would be a 'major' blow, most people buy a 980Ti within that budget anyway, if they stopped selling 380's/390's, THAT would be a major blow.

I agree, the 380 and 390s are there most popular cards by far, though any potential loss in sales aren't good

[zMeul]

I don't think that'll happen. But even if it did, I wouldn't say it would be a 'major' blow, most people buy a 980Ti within that budget anyway, if they stopped selling 380's/390's, THAT would be a major blow.

instead of buying 390, you could buy a 290/X, it's cheaper 

 

also, AMD's shipments dropped 10% year-to-year: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/484409-jon-peddie-research-q3-pc-graphics-add-in-board-aib-market/

what happened? 3xx series launched - people are still buying 2xx series

[Castdeath97]

You know that includes the GTX 980 Water Force, so why not include it in the title?

[Notional]

Well I gotta hand it to zMeul, I did not think Asetek would do this. That said, I understand Asetek doing so. After all CM outright stole AMD from them (Asetek in 295x2, CM in Fury X and FuryX2). This complicates things for AMD, but I doubt it will be a huge issue. They are selling everything they can make as it is.

 

I have a Seidon 120V2 and I gotta say, I much prefer Asetek units as they aren't as damn noisy (running the pump at 30% solves the noise though). So I get the noise part in the FuryX. Wish AMD would return to Asetek and get a better deal.

[Godlygamer23]

This is a biased title. I want the title to mention the 980 Water Force, otherwise it's one-sided.

[Morgan MLGman]

instead of buying 390, you could buy a 290/X, it's cheaper 

I bought the 290X cause it indeed is cheaper than a 390 here in Poland, it's also faster ^^

[Mr_Troll]

dont think that this will hurt amd.... they barely sell fury x cards ..... there is still the r9 nano which almost the same performance as the X for cheaper... the have still many cards to choose from... amd should  allow AIBs to make air cooled versions of the fury x.... problem solved ....980ti is the better option at the high end anyway... 

[Unhelpful]

This is a biased title. I want the title to mention the 980 Water Force, otherwise it's one-sided.

It's zMeul.

[GloriousPain]

Really hope asetek just reworks a deal with AMD and hope this doesn't impact Gemini much I was thinking of upgrading to one from my Fury X in the future

instead of buying 390, you could buy a 290/X, it's cheaper 

Also is warmer and performs worst, 
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1438?vs=1594
 

 

 

@Morgan MLGman I bought the 290X cause it indeed is cheaper than a 390 here in Poland, it's also faster ^^

^^

[zMeul]

Really hope asetek just reworks a deal with AMD and hope this doesn't impact Gemini much I was thinking of upgrading to one from my Fury X in the future

Also is warmer and performs worst, 

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1438?vs=1594

mate, you're comparing a reference 290X with a custom 390 ..  <_<

and ignoring the fact that 290/390, 290X/390X are identical ASIC

[Godlygamer23]

It's zMeul.

I changed it anyways.

[Castdeath97]

mate, you're comparing a reference 290X with a custom 390 ..  <_<

Jay managed to get his matrix R9 290x beaten by the MSI r9 390 in some games

 

[GloriousPain]

mate, you're comparing a reference 290X with a custom 390 ..  <_<

and ignoring the fact that 290/390, 290X/390X are identical ASIC

There's no reference 390  so I figured I'd compare the best 290x anandtech has benched which is 290x Uber vs 390 but yes that is something valid to point out... and ^ look at the post above me even some aftermarket 290s/290xs are still losing to some 390s

[zMeul]

This is a biased title. I want the title to mention the 980 Water Force, otherwise it's one-sided.

980 Water Force - how many people actually bought that?! that monstrosity is irrelevant and GigaByte won't lose a dime discontinuing it

Our attorneys have had some difficulty obtaining a Gigabyte GV-N98TXTREME W-6GD, but we expect to receive and analyze one very soon for infringement.

 

[Unhelpful]

980 Water Force - how many people actually bought that?! that monstrosity is irrelevant and GigaByte won't lose a dime discontinuing it

 

 

Still involved in this and a relevant piece of info.

[Castdeath97]

980 Water Force - how many people actually bought that?! that monstrosity is irrelevant and GigaByte won't lose a dime discontinuing it

 

 

 

Does that change the fact that Asetek asked both companies to pull it......no.

[Godlygamer23]

980 Water Force - how many people actually bought that?! that monstrosity is irrelevant and GigaByte won't lose a dime discontinuing it

Does it matter? The article contains information about the 980 Water Force that Gigabyte sells. It may not affect them but it is relevant. By not putting that in the title, it makes Asetek look biased towards Gigabyte. "Oh, don't worry about it. We're just going after AMD." Except they're going after both companies - I do not want Tech News posts filled with biased information. The OP's are reporting information. That's it. You are to have at least some original input, which also includes opinion, but the information present should be dealing with what the articles are reporting. Not just one side, and that includes the title.

[zMeul]

Does it matter? The article contains information about the 980 Water Force that Gigabyte sells. It may not affect them but it is relevant. By not putting that in the title, it makes Asetek look biased towards Gigabyte. "Oh, don't worry about it. We're just going after AMD." Except they're going after both companies - I do not want Tech News posts filled with biased information. The OP's are reporting information. That's it. You are to have at least some original input, which also includes opinion, but the information present should be dealing with what the articles are reporting. Not just one side, and that includes the title.

the 980WF was mentioned in the body of the post I made - you haven't edited that, have you 

why i tried to keep the title short was because it was bought to my attention some time ago people have difficulty reading the title from a mobile platform

[Godlygamer23]

the 980WF was mentioned in the body of the post I made - you haven't edited that, have you 

why i tried to keep the title short was because it was bought to my attention some time ago people have difficulty reading the title from a mobile platform

I did not edit the body of the post, that is correct. The title matters though - that is what is capturing your audience's attention. One-sided titles are not okay.

[zMeul]

I did not edit the body of the post, that is correct. The title matters though - that is what is capturing your audience's attention. One-sided titles are not okay.

one sided title was not my intention - if I would've done that, I would've intentionally removed any mention of GigaByte and their 980WF   I did not

[Godlygamer23]

one sided title was not my intention - if I would've done that, I would've intentionally removed any mention of GigaByte and their 980WF   I did not

You did. In the title.