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Another... interesting... 9900K vs 2700 leaked review

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https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:SbyMCcxrdLQJ:https://thetechrevolutionist.com/2018/10/performance-review-of-the-intel-core-i9-9900k-with-gigabyte-z390-aorus-master.html

 

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As the CPU race heats up, Intel is feeling the competition and finally producing new processors with significant performance improvements. Their recent release of the new Coffee Lake refresh processors also include a new Core i9 variant, which come in a 8 core 16 threads configuration, putting it heads on with AMD’s Ryzen 7 series. It seems like processors with high core counts are going to be the new norm very soon

 

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Specs Main System Comparison System
CPU Intel Core i9 9900K (Engineering Sample) AMD Ryzen 7 2700
RAM Team Group T-Force DDR4 3000 CL16-16-16-39 2 x 16GB DDR4 Kit Team Group T-Force DDR4 3000 CL16-16-16-39 2 x 16GB DDR4 Kit
Storage Plextor M8V M.2 SATA SSD 256GB Plextor M8V M.2 SATA SSD 256GB
GPU Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 Gaming OC 8G Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 Gaming OC 8G
Motherboard Gigabyte Z390 AORUS Master Gigabyte X470 AORUS Gaming 7 Wi-Fi
CPU Cooler Cryorig A80 280mm AIO Hybrid Liquid Cooler AMD Wraith Stealth Cooler (Stock)
OS Windows 10 Pro 64 bit Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
Drivers NVIDIA 411.70 (RTX 2080) NVIDIA 411.70 (RTX 2080)

For our tests, we have the Intel Core i9 9900K head on with the AMD Ryzen 7 2700. They are both the top of the line in the mainstream product segment. We tried to make sure that both setups are kept as similar as possible to ensure a fair test between the two platforms.

 

Another shady test rears its ugly head, I'm wondering if at this point Intel is having some say in these testing conditions or are the only outlets that have given information thus far just completely incompetent? I don't really understand it either, everyone is expecting the 9900K to be the best gaming processor, so why these odd testing conditions?

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Depends on if they were OCed or not. The Wraith is fine if you don't OC but I would say it's unfair if the results were compared with both CPUs OCed

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yeah 9900k is going to beat 2700x. Especially when given 280mm aio & limiting ryzen to 3000mhz.

 

OH, also it would've beaten ryzen without these weird variables. 

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Just now, schwellmo92 said:

This test was a 2700 (non X) and uses the wraith STEALTH cooler not the wraith prism @Derrk @PacketMan @BuckGup

okay, then these are even weirder variables. I get that intel is scared of competition from AMD, but these tests just to try and blow AMD out of the water are complete bs

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Some random, unknown site briefly had a review up before pulling it down and they used a better cooler on the Intel chip? 

 

Yep, totally a conspiracy. I am sure that Intel are paying big money to try and descieve those that sit and read Google cached content all day.

Surely it can't just be that a small review site fucked up or didn't think the cooler mattered for stock results. Nope. It gotta be a conspiracy...

 

 

Also, why do people even care about these results? It feels like I say this every single product release. If some result isn't consistent between several major reviewers such as Anandtech and TechPowerUp, it should be ignored. 

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1 minute ago, schwellmo92 said:

This test was a 2700 (non X) and uses the wraith STEALTH cooler not the wraith prism @Derrk @PacketMan @BuckGup

Oh right I forgot the stealth is for the lower end CPUs. Yeah this is weird then. It's not hard to not preorder though

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You would think they would at least choose the X version where you can overclock performance boost :)

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Good, another 'tech' site to blacklist.

 

Or maybe AMD shouldnt give their flagship CPUs a stock cooler. If these assholes still use the Wraith series in that case, I need a more aggressive word to call them.

 

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280mm AIO vs wraith stock cooler HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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It is interesting to see that the Intel processor is not that much better than the 2700 with a the stock cooler :)

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It looks like they didn't OC the 2700, so why does it matter what cooler they used?

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we have the Intel Core i9 9900K head on with the AMD Ryzen 7 2700. They are both the top of the line in the mainstream product segment.

They didn't even test with the 2700x LOL

 

@schwellmo92 You should fix the title they test it against the 2700 the 65w part not the 2700x. and according to them the 2700 is the top AMD part LOL

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2 minutes ago, TahoeDust said:

It looks like they didn't OC the 2700, so why does it matter what cooler they used?

exactly

is it going to throttle? no

 

they only showed intels cpu overclocked

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You would think people who like computers would understand scientific method when testing two products. You take out all the variables.... like seperate coolers.....

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Here are their charts

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Such an incompetent review.  Why are we wasting time discussing it?  

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8 minutes ago, TahoeDust said:

It looks like they didn't OC the 2700, so why does it matter what cooler they used?

 

4 minutes ago, pas008 said:

exactly

is it going to throttle? no

 

they only showed intels cpu overclocked

Why didn't they test it against the 2700x, why pic the low power part vs the top end part.

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1 minute ago, The Benjamins said:

 

Why didn't they test it against the 2700x, why pic the low power part vs the top end part.

It's probably some dude in his basement and the 2700 is all he had access to....seriously.  Look at the other trash hardware in the setups.

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2 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

 

Why didn't they test it against the 2700x, why pic the low power part vs the top end part.

I will agree on that 2700x should have been the competitor

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9 minutes ago, TahoeDust said:

It looks like they didn't OC the 2700, so why does it matter what cooler they used?

well. its related tom that they are using the second lowest end cooler AMD is offering, you know, the cooler made for the r3 1200 a 4 core 4 thread CPU(admittenly it comes on other CPUs, but still)

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4 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

Here are their charts

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 Based off the Cinebench score of “stock” vs OC it looks like they might’ve ran the 9900K in the ASUS multicore enhancement mode at 5GHz all core. Because the OC was 5% more than 5GHz and their Cinebench score increased by 5%.

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Might want to update the post title. Title reads 2700X but it was the 2700.

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