SpaceX accidentally put a 900km hole in atmosphere last year

[Eduard the weeb]

Original Article from Ars Technica- https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/03/spacex-launch-last-year-punched-huge-temporary-hole-in-the-ionosphere/

 

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 The rocket maintained a nearly vertical trajectory all the way through much of the Earth's ionosphere, which ranges from about 60km above the planet to 1,000km up. In doing so, the Falcon 9 booster and its second stage created unique, circular shockwaves. The rocket launch also punched a temporary, 900-km-wide hole into the plasma of the ionosphere.

 

The article itself is very informative, but anyway whats being said is, Space X last year when the Falcon 9 rocket on Formosat-5 mission launched it launched straight up unstead of to the side because of its light load, so when this happened it ended up punching the temporary hole in the ionosphere grantided this hole is already fixed and should have lasted only 2-3 hours which said in the article is comparable to a magnetic storm, the magnetic storm effects were global, wall the rocket effect is regional.

 

And I'm gonna leave you off with this quote

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"Human are entering an era that rocket launches are becoming usual and frequent due to reduced cost by reusable rockets," Lin said. "Meanwhile, humans are developing more powerful rockets to send cargoes to other planets. These two factors will gradually affect the middle and upper atmosphere more, and that is worthwhile to pay some attention to."

 

[ItsMitch]

When your rockets are so powerful they punch holes in the atmosphere... That's a new one. 

[Eduard the weeb]

Just now, SC2Mitch said:

When your rockets are so powerful they punch holes in the atmosphere... That's a new one. 

no trying to be smart ass lol

but it was said in general after launch they will pitch down to avoid this, but sense it was so light of a payload it couldn't be really brought down.

[ItsMitch]

Just now, Eduard the weeb said:

no trying to be smart ass lol

 

wat

[Sauron]

Hopefully they learn from their mistakes even if this one was pretty much inconsequential.

[ARikozuM]

Dear Elon Musk,

 

I have a special package known as the [INSERT GOVERNMENT AGENCY]. I'd like to send them to space if I could. What planet they go to does not matter so long as they pass our upper atmosphere, fly through space, and never land anywhere. I have a whole [INSERT MONEY ON HAND] to invest in this effort. 

 

Thank you for the time,

[INSERT INITIALS]

[2FA]

Obligatory "humans can't affect the earth's atmosphere"

[Taf the Ghost]

Elon is just trying to prove he is a Mad Scientist.

[ARikozuM]

8 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Elon is just trying to prove he is a Mad Scientist.

Or a responsibly socialist capitalist. 

[Trik'Stari]

6 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

Or a responsibly socialist capitalist. 

I like that terminology.

 

Need more of that.

 

Also need:

 

Space elevator

A change in "dogma" for "capitalists" in business classes in college, focusing on long term rather than short term.

A complete overhaul of the college environment to begin with. Beginning with the death of Tenure, as well as "social justice" courses.

A complete overhaul of the education system in its entirety

A way to take money out of journalism (political journalism at least)

[Donut417]

Well cant be any worse then the holes we have punched in the Ozone layer. 

[ARikozuM]

Just now, Donut417 said:

Well cant be any worse then the holes we have punched in the Ozone layer. 

Those holes have been fixing themselves over the years, but it isn't expected to fully close until 2060.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/jun/30/ozone-layer-hole-appears-to-be-healing-scientists-say

Article states 2050. 

[yian88]

Makes you think how sensible is actually our atmosphere and if we should stop sending rockets to space?

[Murasaki]

Simple solution send rockets through the same hole.

[Guest The Viking]

On 24/03/2018 at 1:51 AM, ARikozuM said:

Or a responsibly socialist capitalist. 

unless i missed a joke somewhere, mr. musk can't be a socialist, as he's against unions

 

https://www.drscmedia.eu/economy---english/tesla-fires-an-unknown-amount-of-employees

 

Tesla literally fired employees for trying to form a syndicate

 

http://nordic.businessinsider.com/danish-pension-funds-are-getting-slammed-for-tesla-investments-2017-10/

 

"The investment raises eyebrows in Denmark because it comes amid reports that Tesla has banned unions, paid its employees poorly and sustained high levels of work-related accidents, according to one expert."

[Donut417]

On 3/23/2018 at 8:09 PM, Eduard the weeb said:

no trying to be smart ass lol

but it was said in general after launch they will pitch down to avoid this, but sense it was so light of a payload it couldn't be really brought down.

I always wondered about that. I wonder if any of this happen during the Apollo program. Seeing how the Saturn V is still the most powerful rocket ever built, I bet it could punch holes in the atmosphere. 

[Drak3]

1 hour ago, The Viking said:

unless i missed a joke somewhere, mr. musk can't be a socialist, as he's against unions.

Elon just became likeable to me.

[Jito463]

On 3/23/2018 at 7:51 PM, ARikozuM said:

Or a responsibly socialist capitalist. 

What an oxymoron.  You can't be a socialist and a capitalist at the same time, those two are mutually exclusive.

 

Socialism:

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a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.

Capitalism:

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an economic system in which investment in and ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange of wealth is made and maintained chiefly by private individuals or corporations, especially as contrasted to cooperatively or state-owned means of wealth.

 

[Guest The Viking]

47 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Elon just became likeable to me.

go work for tesla then.

 

I'm sure you'll LOVE working 60 to 70 hours a week, be paid less than in other jobs and have more work accidents than other car manufacturers in the industry. 

 

before spouting stupid non-sense, one should research what a union/syndicate does. We worked hard to get those and protect the workers, and it's people like you who  allow terrible working conditions and exploitation for the working class to come back. Congrats.

 

I guess we won't see you around anymore though, at 70 hours a week.... what's that, 10 hours a day, 7 days a week?

[MyName13]

3 minutes ago, The Viking said:

go work for tesla then.

 

I'm sure you'll LOVE working 60 to 70 hours a week, be paid less than in other jobs and have more work accidents than other car manufacturers in the industry. 

 

before spouting stupid non-sense, one should research what a union/syndicate does. We worked hard to get those and protect the workers, and it's people like you who  allow terrible working conditions and exploitation for the working class to come back. Congrats.

 

I guess we won't see you around anymore though, at 70 hours a week.... what's that, 10 hours a day, 7 days a week?

So a third world slaveholder in a first world country?

[Donut417]

3 minutes ago, MyName13 said:

So a third world slaveholder in a first world country?

Ehhhhh. You can get away with this when Union's are not involved. Try this shit at the big 3 and you damn well know the UAW would be up their ass. 

[Guest The Viking]

59 minutes ago, MyName13 said:

So a third world slaveholder in a first world country?

that's what tesla is, and that's why i do not respect musk or will never buy a tesla (and YES I was considering getting one a few years ago)

 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/workers-say-tesla-is-trying-to-scare-them-out-of-a-union

 

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“Having to look up every day, 12 hours a day, six days a week, hands over my shoulder, it was two herniated disks in my neck,” Michael Sanchez told The Daily Beast. 

Few other sources talk of the exact  same working conditions. All of them form part of the 400 to 700 employees fired.

 

55 minutes ago, Donut417 said:

Ehhhhh. You can get away with this when Union's are not involved. Try this shit at the big 3 and you damn well know the UAW would be up their ass. 

http://uk.businessinsider.com/uaw-tesla-complaint-fire-workers-union-2017-10?r=US&IR=T

 

It looks like the UAW is involved.

 

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I was not trying to get into this discussion anyway, I just wanted to point out that Musk cannot be considered, by any means, a Socialist. End, that's all. Whether you believe he is a great man or hate him, that isn't my problem.

[Donut417]

26 minutes ago, The Viking said:

It looks like the UAW is involved.

Cool. Maybe these employees will get a union, if they want one. 

[79wjd]

7 hours ago, yian88 said:

Makes you think how sensible is actually our atmosphere and if we should stop sending rockets to space?

Ah yes, let's also roll back to pre-industrial revolution days because modern society is bad for the environment. 

[Drak3]

6 minutes ago, The Viking said:

go work for tesla then.

 

I'm sure you'll LOVE working 60 to 70 hours a week, be paid less than in other jobs and have more work accidents than other car manufacturers in the industry. 

 

before spouting stupid non-sense, one should research what a union/syndicate does. We worked hard to get those and protect the workers, and it's people like you who  allow terrible working conditions and exploitation for the working class to come back. Congrats.

 

I guess we won't see you around anymore though, at 70 hours a week.... what's that, 10 hours a day, 7 days a week?

I work in construction. I know full well what a union does, and did.

I regularly work 60 to 70 hours a week.

 

I refuse to have some worthless thugs extort my money anddemand I work less and thus reducing my income. Unions were once good things, but that was well before my lifetime. Now, unions are nothing more than filthy scum strong arming companies into a deal where the only party that benefots is the heads of the union.