Youtube kicking off Gun Channels, oppurtunity for Floatplane?

[Matu20]

2 minutes ago, WMGroomAK said:

As someone who owns several firearms for self-defense against the local wildlife, I mainly watch videos on them to help educate myself on a particular firearm that I might be considering to purchase...  

Now this is one actual legit reasons I can see videos being viable, thank you.

[Ryujin2003]

11 minutes ago, Matu20 said:

Ignorant of me to ask, but what makes firearms so beloved to watch for you? Mostly Americans I assume, might be wrong.

As someone who has a long working history with firearms, the only thing I watch on YouTube for firearms is the occasional competition. I like skeet and trap, and watch videos to become better at that. I also like 3 gun competitions (although pistols are nearly illegal where I live).

 

Ignorant of me to ask, but why does Twitch! exist? What makes watching some douchebag playing CS:GO so beloved for others to watch? Mostly American teenagers I assume, might be wrong too.

 

We all have our hobbies.

 

1 minute ago, Matu20 said:

Now this is one actual legit reasons I can see videos being viable, thank you.

Now I feel a little bad for my sarcastic undertone. lol. Maybe I should've waited a minute. (I just got out of lecture and bombed a midterm, so I do apologize if I came across as a little upset. Not directed at you)

[Cyracus]

Wow, so much "OMG NO MORE GUNS ON THE YOUTUBES!!!" 

YouTube prohibits certain kinds of content featuring firearms. Specifically, we don’t allow content that: 

-Intends to sell firearms or certain firearms accessories through direct sales (e.g., private sales by individuals) or links to sites that sell these items. These accessories include but may not be limited to accessories that enable a firearm to simulate automatic fire or convert a firearm to automatic fire (e.g., bump stocks, gatling triggers, drop-in auto sears, conversion kits), and high capacity magazines (i.e., magazines or belts carrying more than 30 rounds).

-Provides instructions on manufacturing a firearm, ammunition, high capacity magazine, homemade silencers/suppressors, or certain firearms accessories such as those listed above. This also includes instructions on how to convert a firearm to automatic or simulated automatic firing capabilities.

-Shows users how to install the above-mentioned accessories or modifications.

 

Doesn't say no gun videos, doesn't say no modified/homebrew gun mod videos

[Streetguru]

Just now, Cyracus said:

Doesn't say no gun videos, doesn't say no modified/homebrew gun mod videos

Do you really expect youtube to actually work as intended?

[Energycore]

1 minute ago, Matu20 said:

I also used to watch FPS Russia's videos on shooting guns, don't remember why, but haven't done it for a half a decade now.

 

Someone mentioned stress reliever to me in person as well, so I can kinda see that. But my question is that isn't there anything else to relieve your stress, that don't include firearms?

There is, at least for me personally since I play the drums

 

However for some people there might not be something else. And either way, if the video in itself is harmless (doesn't teach how to shoot at people, doesn't shoot at people or animals and doesn't suggest), then let people have that I say.

 

The ban on videos that sell firearms / etc is odd imo. though not out of line with Google's previous policies. Ultimately it's not a "ban on guns" like people have been suggesting.

Just now, Streetguru said:

Do you really expect youtube to actually work as intended?

I suppose this is fair

[Ryujin2003]

1 minute ago, Cyracus said:

Wow, so much "OMG NO MORE GUNS ON THE YOUTUBES!!!" 

YouTube prohibits certain kinds of content featuring firearms. Specifically, we don’t allow content that: 

-Intends to sell firearms or certain firearms accessories through direct sales (e.g., private sales by individuals) or links to sites that sell these items. These accessories include but may not be limited to accessories that enable a firearm to simulate automatic fire or convert a firearm to automatic fire (e.g., bump stocks, gatling triggers, drop-in auto sears, conversion kits), and high capacity magazines (i.e., magazines or belts carrying more than 30 rounds).

-Provides instructions on manufacturing a firearm, ammunition, high capacity magazine, homemade silencers/suppressors, or certain firearms accessories such as those listed above. This also includes instructions on how to convert a firearm to automatic or simulated automatic firing capabilities.

-Shows users how to install the above-mentioned accessories or modifications.

 

Doesn't say no gun videos, doesn't say no modified/homebrew gun mod videos

I do have to say that the title is definitely misleading. #clickbait

[Matu20]

2 minutes ago, Ryujin2003 said:

Ignorant of me to ask, but why does Twitch! exist? What makes watching some douchebag playing CS:GO so beloved for others to watch? Mostly American teenagers I assume, might be wrong too.

These aren't nearly as similar to make the same conclusion. Video games are for entertainment, guns are for protection.

 

And that actually was ignorant of you.

[knightslugger]

8 minutes ago, Matu20 said:

Now this is one actual legit reasons I can see videos being viable, thank you.

Aspiring gunsmiths use the videos to introduce themselves to the machining basics of precision rifle building. There is a LOT of math that goes into rifle-making before the first round is sent down range. There's also a host of new techniques, new tools, or new products that gunsmiths demonstrate on youtube to not only make the viewer's product better or safer, but also informs the buying public that these tools and education exist for them to shop around with. a more educated buyer is better off knowing they exist! These would all fall under making of a firearm.

 

Also, YT bans the dissemination of how to make ammunition. So no more reloading videos or education. that could lead to some VERY serious accidents.

 

This is a slippery slope YT is on. ANYTHING could be next, in the name of WHATEVER. Someone at YT is a rabid environmentalist.. *POOF!* there goes every automotive modification video. no more racing videos.no more race tire, fuel, carburetion, exhaust, turbo product videos because they harm the environment.

[Cyracus]

4 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Do you really expect youtube to actually work as intended?

Nah, it always hits a little heavy on the first wave, and then finds some level of balance down the road. Gun content creators may have a bit of extra work contesting if any of their videos get removed that don't violate the terms in the meantime, but it is what it is

[handymanshandle]

9 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

I think I've seen about 5 YouTube ads since the place started doing ads. Viva La Adblock!

I use ublock origin now... Much better.

[Ryujin2003]

2 minutes ago, Matu20 said:

These aren't nearly as similar to make the same conclusion. Video games are for entertainment, guns are for protection.

 

And that actually was ignorant of you.

Guns can also for entertainment. Shooting people or animals is for protection. Your assumption of single use is ignorant. Are cars only for transportation?

[Zodiark1593]

Just now, Cyracus said:

Nah, it always hits a little heavy on the first wave, and then finds some level of balance down the road. Gun content creators may have a bit of extra work contesting if any of their videos get removed that don't violate the terms in the meantime, but it is what it is

If only there was a Dislike option, where you choose that reputation thing.

[Taf the Ghost]

1 minute ago, wcreek said:

I use ublock origin now... Much better.

I switched as well, but I was talking in general.

[knightslugger]

here's another thing. "covert a firearm ... to simulated automatic fire.

 

so a video showing your finger in the trigger guard or explaining that a finger is all that is needed to simulate that function of the slide fire rifle stock will not be allowed on youtube.

 

one video disussing the function of a bumpstock will get the account a flag.

one video talking about the unnessecary presence of a bump stock will get a flag.

 

firearm not needed to be present for video. just the discussion is enough to get the video black-flagged.

[VanayadGaming]

This is great news!

[ItsMitch]

Just now, Streetguru said:

So does that mean that twitch will never air a COPS marathon?

I've seen worse aired on Twitch and I'm fairly sure public servants are an exception to that rule, Bounty Hunters regularly stream on Twitch along with some police officers. 

[knightslugger]

5 minutes ago, VanayadGaming said:

This is great news!

if you're serious, how would you feel if violent depictions of simulated environments (eg. CS:GO, The Division, Fallout4, GTA, etc) were removed from youtube as well, and those accounts deleted?

 

Linus would no longer be able to show firestrike benchmarks in his videos

or Metro Last light.

or Doom 2016.

 

[handymanshandle]

3 minutes ago, knightslugger said:

if you're serious, how would you feel if violent depictions of simulated environments (eg. CS:GO, The Division, Fallout4, GTA, etc) were removed from youtube as well, and those accounts deleted?

I better delete my video of an Easter egg in Wolfenstein: The New Order, and all my tf2 videos! Because it's so "violent".

 

Sigh, I hate when one side decides to demonize another side for practicing or wanting to have the ability to eventually practice their constitutional rights and when either both sides or one side demonizes an entertainment media for being "violent" and shit.

[Jtalk4456]

Question as I am a work and the article won't open. Is youtube removing videos with that content or demonetizing?

[AlwaysFSX]

This will work just as well as abstinence education. 

[sazrocks]

3 minutes ago, wcreek said:

I better delete my video of an Easter egg in Wolfenstein: The New Order, and all my tf2 videos! Because it's so "violent".

 

Sigh, I hate when one side decides to demonize another side for practicing or wanting to have the ability to eventually practice their constitutional rights and when either both sides or one side demonizes an entertainment media for being "violent" and shit.

Pretty sure @knightslugger wasn’t saying video games were too violent, but rather that the current crackdown on gun videos is as ridiculous as a crackdown on “violent” video game videos.

[handymanshandle]

Just now, sazrocks said:

Pretty sure @knightslugger wasn’t saying video games were too violent, but rather that the current crackdown on gun videos is as ridiculous as a crackdown on “violent” video game videos.

Oh no, that's what I was getting at.

[AnonymousGuy]

Maybe Youtube should ban porn and that'll kill that segment off too!

 

Oh wait.

[Whispre]

I see everyone assuming YT is doing this to "control" us somehow... but I think it's more likely a simple business decision to avoid costly lawsuits. In today's litigation insane world where the public wants to sue and lay blame for everything even their own bad decisions, companies like YT have to protect themselves and their revenue stream.

 

I also think claims of censorship are too strong... this is not a free public service... they own what they do and have the right to control the content on it. If this was a public service paid for by tax dollars, I can see an outcry when they control what they allow.

 

I would prefer that they allow all content to be honest... but I can understand why they would want to limit some things.

[knightslugger]

2 minutes ago, Whispre said:

I see everyone assuming YT is doing this to "control" us somehow... but I think it's more likely a simple business decision to avoid costly lawsuits. In today's litigation insane world where the public wants to sue and lay blame for everything even their own bad decisions, companies like YT have to protect themselves and their revenue stream.

 

I also think claims of censorship are too strong... this is not a free public service... they own what they do and have the right to control the content on it. If this was a public service paid for by tax dollars, I can see an outcry when they control what they allow.

 

I would prefer that they allow all content to be honest... but I can understand why they would want to limit some things.

which is fine, but then you have what is called a shock and awe site. "This content is so strong even YOUTUBE banned it!" will become a narrative for future legislation.

 

A litigious society is a fault of the justice system that allowed them in the first place.