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[OU812]

1 minute ago, hydrochloric said:

That looks like a Cummins?  Possibly?  I'm not a great diesel guy.  I've only had my old Subaru and RX7 apart.

 

Thats a superchargered Subaru.

[Dylanc1500]

11 minutes ago, Victor Golf said:

Same here. It's why I work on big stuff. Still lots of computers and tech involved. Especially with auto guidance systems.

 

Is that a 6-71 Detroit?

[pred1tor83]

1 minute ago, hydrochloric said:

That looks like a Cummins 12V?  Possibly?  I'm not a great diesel guy.  I've only had my old Subaru and RX7 apart.

 

 

I am assuming you fabricobiled that super charger on there???  Very neat, I had an 86 Fiero w/ a 3800 Sc from a 2002 Bonneville...

 

I got bit by all the expensive hobby bugs, computers, cars, guns, cigars, liquor. 

 

Thankfully I met my wife and she is happy doing that extreme couponing thing, we couldn't afford both of us.  

[Bombastinator]

14 minutes ago, leadeater said:

Mines NA 11:1, but it's Jap so I don't expect it to go all Euro car on me 

 

Biggest downside is no cheap(er) fuel.

 

On the other hand I don't drive it 'nicely' lol. 

Such things have gotten better since 2008.  Keeps an eye though.  High compression is hard on things like rings.  Tolerances are tight and things like carbon buildup cause problems fast.  That one is the source of my oil burning issue.  I could stop the oil burning instantly by removing the head and cleaning out the carbon.  The job is so expensive though it’s not worth doing.

[hydrochloric]

Just now, pred1tor83 said:

I am assuming you fabricobiled that super charger on there???  Very neat, I had an 86 Fiero w/ a 3800 Sc from a 2002 Bonneville...

 

I got bit by all the expensive hobby bugs, computers, cars, guns, cigars, liquor. 

 

Thankfully I met my wife and she is happy doing that extreme couponing thing, we couldn't afford both of us.  

 

2 minutes ago, OU812 said:

Thats a superchargered Subaru.

Yeah, that whole setup was DIY.  It used a 2004 WRX ecu, I self-tuned it (then used that to tune our Lemons Ford Ranger & my own RX7 track car, MS3X), I LOVED that car.  It was faster than ALL 2.0 WRXs, I have literal proof from dynos and drives.  I can't tell you how much I loved that noise:

 

[Victor Golf]

Just now, hydrochloric said:

That looks like a Cummins?  Possibly?  I'm not a great diesel guy.  I've only had my old Subaru and RX7 apart.

Its a FPT (Fiat Power Train) Cursor 13.

Top trim of this engine is 16L displacement, 700+ hp and 2400+ft-lbs of torque.

3 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

Such things have gotten better since 2008.  Keeps an eye though.  High compression is hard on things like rings.  Tolerances are tight and things like carbon buildup cause problems fast.  That one is the source of my oil burning issue.  I could stop the oil burning instantly by removing the head and cleaning out the carbon.  The job is so expensive though it’s not worth doing.

I'd beg to differ on your compression ratio causing faster wear.

It's the way the engines are used. Diesels commonly have compression ratios of 16/1 and can so for a few million miles between overhauls.

Car engines would last longer with less heat cycles due to (relatively) short trips.

[KenjiS9965]

33 minutes ago, hydrochloric said:

Erm... Not quite lol.  It IS an I6, but:

Its a jaaaaaaaag

[Bombastinator]

Just now, Victor Golf said:

Its a FPT (Fiat Power Train) Cursor 13.

Top trim of this engine is 16L displacement, 700+ hp and 2400+ft-lbs of torque.

I'd beg to differ on your compression ratio causing faster wear.

It's the way the engines are used. Diesels commonly have compression ratios of 16/1 and can so for a few million miles between overhauls.

Car engines would last longer with less heat cycles due to (relatively) short trips.

I learned to drive on diesels.  The first vehicle I drove was a diesel rabbit.  Thing was so old the only color they came in was putty.  My dad bought it at a traveling car show.  One of the first diesel rabbits in the USA.  It had a 16:1 compression ratio or something crazy.  It flipped the odometer once and only died because my step brother wrapped it around a tree.  Diesels are totally different beasts.  They’re internally lubricated for one thing.  There’s a reason they call it diesel oil. No spark plugs, etc..  I’m talking gas.  12:1 is a lot for gas.  8:1 used to be common.  As for the diagnosis I’m just repeating what mechanics told me.  It’s a known problem with the vintage of 2.0l turbo I got.  It was one of the first production high compression gasoline turbo 4s made.  Back when 100hp/litre was unheard of.  The issue with the carbon has to do with the head and is somewhat complicated and struck me as a bit unlikely so I looked it up. apparently it’s a well known problem.

[Xaiux]

1 hour ago, HaRdLy007 said:

No, I have always given my computers car names and I just so happen to own a 2013 Turbo, but am looking at a 2020 VelosterN

Are you thinking of selling that 2013 Turbo then?

[PCSolidcom]

24 minutes ago, hydrochloric said:

Erm... Not quite lol.  It IS an I6, but:

LOVE the ol 2 door jags!  However, since I couldn't find one back in 90 when I was lookin for one w/ blown engine, found a 72 XJ6 w/ the frozen straight 6 in it, tore that junk outa there n slapped my 72 Buick Estate Wagon 455 and trans in it. 14.6 at 89 mph in the quarter 1st time out w/ no mods to stock grocery getter 455... Had 4 wheel disc brakes in 1972! and was definitely a posi rear-end... Tore up the Houston streets w/ that thing... Fun times!  Still like the looks of the 2-door WAY more!

[PCSolidcom]

10 minutes ago, PCSolidcom said:

LOVE the ol 2 door jags!  However, since I couldn't find one back in 90 when I was lookin for one w/ blown engine, found a 72 XJ6 w/ the frozen straight 6 in it, tore that junk outa there n slapped my 72 Buick Estate Wagon 455 and trans in it. 14.6 at 89 mph in the quarter 1st time out w/ no mods to stock grocery getter 455... Had 4 wheel disc brakes in 1972! and was definitely a posi rear-end... Tore up the Houston streets w/ that thing... Fun times!  Still like the looks of the 2-door WAY more! K, I'm new here, no more car posts, sorry bout that... 

 

[hydrochloric]

5 minutes ago, PCSolidcom said:

LOVE the ol 2 door jags!  However, since I couldn't find one back in 90 when I was lookin for one w/ blown engine, found a 72 XJ6 w/ the frozen straight 6 in it, tore that junk outa there n slapped my 72 Buick Estate Wagon 455 and trans in it. 14.6 at 89 mph in the quarter 1st time out w/ no mods to stock grocery getter 455... Had 4 wheel disc brakes in 1972! and was definitely a posi rear-end... Tore up the Houston streets w/ that thing... Fun times!  Still like the looks of the 2-door WAY more!

My driver's license test car was a 1995 Buick Roadmaster Estate wagon, you have no idea how bad I want a 6-speed LSX Roadmaster wagon.... MMMMMM

[pred1tor83]

New to the forum so here is my contribution. 

Spoiler

 

[hydrochloric]

I still want your TVS, lol.

[GDRRiley]

well I'm back at home.

My civics dripped a little oil in the last 3 months so I'll check if anything is lose.

I got an airbag recall woot. I need to figure out what I'm going to do around my brakes.

I know I need new pads but I'd like to stop better so I'm thinking about swapping the front to something nicer as a rear drum swap to disk is a pain.

Honda why did you decide that based on what region you got 4 wheel disk included in the EX package, I get Canada has snow but so does most of the US.

[Victor Golf]

11 hours ago, Bombastinator said:

I learned to drive on diesels.  The first vehicle I drove was a diesel rabbit.  Thing was so old the only color they came in was putty.  My dad bought it at a traveling car show.  One of the first diesel rabbits in the USA.  It had a 16:1 compression ratio or something crazy.  It flipped the odometer once and only died because my step brother wrapped it around a tree.  Diesels are totally different beasts.  They’re internally lubricated for one thing.  There’s a reason they call it diesel oil. No spark plugs, etc..  I’m talking gas.  12:1 is a lot for gas.  8:1 used to be common.  As for the diagnosis I’m just repeating what mechanics told me.  It’s a known problem with the vintage of 2.0l turbo I got.  It was one of the first production high compression gasoline turbo 4s made.  Back when 100hp/litre was unheard of.  The issue with the carbon has to do with the head and is somewhat complicated and struck me as a bit unlikely so I looked it up. apparently it’s a well known problem.

See the thing that does not make sense to me is the carbon build up is not a problem on diesel engines (pre EGR) and they are high compression direct injection engines just like the 2.0l VWAG engine.

 

I think that carbon build up on small DI engines is at least in part due to manufacturers recommending lighter and lighter oils that get sucked through the PCV system easily. Also PCV systems are under designed IMO to prevent this. They should be including an air oil separator in factory systems.

[hydrochloric]

2 minutes ago, Victor Golf said:

See the thing that does not make sense to me is the carbon build up is not a problem on diesel engines (pre EGR) and they are high compression direct injection engines just like the 2.0l VWAG engine.

 

I think that carbon build up on small DI engines is at least in part due to manufacturers recommending lighter and lighter oils that get sucked through the PCV system easily. Also PCV systems are under designed IMO to prevent this. They should be including an air oil separator in factory systems.

I think it's related to heat, more than anything else.  I know that DI engines of all types benefit from a monthly-or-so italian tuneup, to get them hot and burn off deposits before they stick.  The little old diesels were always worked so hard, they just ran hotter basically all the time.

[Beef Boss]

12 hours ago, OU812 said:

Thats a superchargered Subaru.

Is that what that.. Thing is doing there?? I was wondering

[Victor Golf]

3 minutes ago, hydrochloric said:

I think it's related to heat, more than anything else.  I know that DI engines of all types benefit from a monthly-or-so italian tuneup, to get them hot and burn off deposits before they stick.  The little old diesels were always worked so hard, they just ran hotter basically all the time.

Without oil in the intake though, there is no carbon coming into the intake. Engines that just vent the crankcase to atmosphere don't have carbon buildup problems at all. 

[Bombastinator]

35 minutes ago, Victor Golf said:

See the thing that does not make sense to me is the carbon build up is not a problem on diesel engines (pre EGR) and they are high compression direct injection engines just like the 2.0l VWAG engine.

 

I think that carbon build up on small DI engines is at least in part due to manufacturers recommending lighter and lighter oils that get sucked through the PCV system easily. Also PCV systems are under designed IMO to prevent this. They should be including an air oil separator in factory systems.

The carbon build up wasn’t supposed to happen and there actually isn’t very much of it. The problem is it can plug tiny holes and change the shape of surfaces with only very small amounts.  That rabbit I drove spewed carbon everywhere.  You punched the gas and you couldn’t see out the back window because everything was black.  It was the 1970’s. Different type of engineering.  Displacement and engine layout were fairly similar.  It got 56hp vs 200hp

[Victor Golf]

Also @hydrochloric I love your Subaru. That's an awesome mod.

 

Here's my main engine. 

[hydrochloric]

2 minutes ago, Victor Golf said:

Without oil in the intake though, there is no carbon coming into the intake. Engines that just vent the crankcase to atmosphere don't have carbon buildup problems at all. 

True, that's the perfect solution lol.  But it contributes to short oil change intervals since the whole crankcase is exposed to the air.  My Hudson is VTA, it actually doesn't even have an oil filter, and it's change interval is 1500 miles lol.

 

2 minutes ago, Victor Golf said:

Also @hydrochloric I love your Subaru. That's an awesome mod.

 

Here's my main engine. 

Thanks, though that hasn't been my Subaru for about 5 years now.  I actually sold it to a guy who drove it from NY to SC, then SC to CO, where it got handed around a bunch.  I got a few messages from various owners out there trying to figure out just what it was before it finally got sold to about the most Suba-bro guy I'd ever seen.  He drifted it into a curb before scrapping it (though it was rusty as hell before I sold it so that didn't help).  I think he said it was at near 400k.

 

It's been a while since I've been in the subaru game, but based on the AVCS, and the plastic manifold with DBW, that's a 255 from a....  2008ish?

 

...I have an Eaton M90 sitting in my garage...  What car needs a supercharger, hmm....

[IKnight]

23 hours ago, TVwazhere said:

If it makes you feel any better, my car hasnt changed any.... (Appearance wise, though that will hopefully change soon with a rear bumper switch)

Hahhah well, that makes me feel a bit better.  Speaking of change, is @iDeFecZx on his 10th car yet?

@hydrochloricOhh, is that an inline 5? What turbo are you running, and you got any more pics?  i've always wanted a c5, though preferably an S6 plus or maybe an i5 S6.

(granted the B5 S4 will always be closest to my heart ). 

[TVwazhere]

6 minutes ago, IKnight said:

Hahhah well, that makes me feel a bit better.  Speaking of change, is @iDeFecZx on his 10th car yet?

11th, actually

[Victor Golf]

46 minutes ago, hydrochloric said:

1.) True, that's the perfect solution lol.  But it contributes to short oil change intervals since the whole crankcase is exposed to the air.  My Hudson is VTA, it actually doesn't even have an oil filter, and it's change interval is 1500 miles lol.

 

Thanks, though that hasn't been my Subaru for about 5 years now.  I actually sold it to a guy who drove it from NY to SC, then SC to CO, where it got handed around a bunch.  I got a few messages from various owners out there trying to figure out just what it was before it finally got sold to about the most Suba-bro guy I'd ever seen.  He drifted it into a curb before scrapping it (though it was rusty as hell before I sold it so that didn't help).  I think he said it was at near 400k.

 

3.) It's been a while since I've been in the subaru game, but based on the AVCS, and the plastic manifold with DBW, that's a 255 from a....  2008ish?

 

4.) ...I have an Eaton M90 sitting in my garage...  What car needs a supercharger, hmm....

1.) That's sweet. Don't know what VTA stands for though. 

 

2.) my dream is to have a 2 door GC one day. I hate suba-bro's. They ruin everything.

 

3.) Close. It's out of my 09 Legacy GT Spec.B. Rebuilt with forged internals after detecting rod knock very early. 

 

4.) I've got a turbo off of a skid steer I might give to a buddy with a Nissan mini truck. 

 

Sorry for delayed replies, I am at work.