FSP finally launches their liquid cooled PSU for $700... but with a 2 year warranty?

[LienusLateTips]

SOURCE: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/fsp-releases-liquid-ptm-psu,36469.html

 

FSP is finally launching their Hydro PTM+ Liquid cooled PSU today for a MSRP of $699 USD. It's the second most expensive PSU on the market at the moment. It has RGB lighting (ASUS Aura Sync) and 80+ Platinum rating, and FSP worked with BitsPower for the liquid cooling parts.

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For anyone who isn't into PSU history, this is not the first liquid-cooled PSU on the market. DeepCool also showed off a prototype liquid-cooled PSU during Computex 2016, though the product never made it to mass production. Koolance, some years ago, actually released a water-cooled PSU (model number: PSU-1300ATX-12N), but it ultimately wasn't successful because of its huge price tag. Back in 2001, Koolance was also the first company to offer a water-cooled PSU. It was self-contained, meaning that it could work independently without the need for other water cooling parts, as opposed to the PSU-1300ATX-12N unit, which required an existing Koolance water cooling system.

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The price tag for the FSP Hydro PTM+ is set at $700, so it is currently the second most expensive PSU on the market, behind Cooler Master's MasterWatt Maker 1200 MIJ, which currently costs $1,000. That $700 investment is covered by a two-year warranty, about which the product's manual states:

• The two-year warranty period starts from the date of purchase (date of delivery). Warranty information may vary according to region, so please consult your local authorized distributor for details. The warranty will be voided if the built-in water block shows any sign of tampering, or any sign of external forces.

I find this two year warranty to be concerning. Maybe FSP doesn't have any confidence in their product? Maybe they know it will fail right outside of warranty?

I wouldn't buy this, unless I was crazy, if I were you.

 

Spec Table provided by Tom's Hardware:

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Model Name	Hydro PTM+
OEM	FSP & Bitspower
Max. DC Output	1,200W (1,400W with liquid cooling)
PFC	Active PFC
Efficiency	80 Plus Platinum
Modular	Yes (fully)
Intel C6/C7 Power State Support	✓
+12V Max Power (W)	1200
Combined +3.3, +5V (W)	120
5VSB Max Power (W)	15
Operating temperature	0°C ~ 40°C
Protections	Over Current Protection Over Temperature Protection Over Power Protection Over Voltage Protection Short Circuit Protection
Cooling	135mm Fluid Dynamic Bearing Fan
Semi-passive operation	✓
RGB Lighting & Controller	✓
Number of Connectors	1x 24-pin ATX: (600mm) 2x EPS: (750mm) 8x PCIe: (500mm+150mm) 8x SATA: (500mm+115mm+115mm+115mm) 4x Peripheral & 4x SATA: (400mm+155mm++155mm+100mm) 1x FDD: (+155mm)
Dimensions	150mm (W) x 86mm (H) x 200 mm (D) 5.91" (W) x 3.39" (H) x 7.87" (D)
Compliance	ATX12V v2.4, EPS12V 2.92
Warranty	2 years
MSRP	$699

 

[Guest]

Water they thinking?!

Hard pass.

[xentropa]

I never saw the point of liquid psu cooling.  The semiconductor parts in there arent small sensitive 16 nm transistors. They can definitely take a thermal beating.  

[leadeater]

Sure why not, everything else in my PC is water cooled, might as well go full crazy.

[xentropa]

1 minute ago, leadeater said:

Sure why not, everything else in my PC is water cooled, might as well go full crazy.

It could put an unwanted thermal load in ur loop.  Well put it in the very back of the loop i suppose.

[Jurrunio]

Water and electronics dont like each other, also the reason why I will never consider watercooling my PC. Watercooling the place with the most electricity is insane.

 

Besides the short warranty, what's with that 40C maximum operating temperature? Dont tell me this is 3 EVGA N1 400w units stuffed inside 1 casing with a waterblock and some RGB strips.

[leadeater]

1 minute ago, xentropa said:

It could put an unwanted thermal load in ur loop.

I have dual 290X's..... .

[Vode]

3 minutes ago, xentropa said:

[...] Well put it in the very back of the loop i suppose.

That‘s not how thermodynamics work. 

[LienusLateTips]

1 minute ago, leadeater said:

I have dual 290X's..... .

I wonder if you could somehow wire this thing up and make a huge liquid cooling loop with PSU, GPU and CPU

 

wait... LIQUID COOLED VRMS

[LienusLateTips]

1 minute ago, valdyrgramr said:

Beats passive any day.

Liquid cooled HDD, SSD, RAM... maybe even case

[Arika]

 

[leadeater]

7 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

Empties his water bottle onto his 2 grand plus pc  Am I doing it right?

Are those water bottles hot swap? If not then no.

[Oshino Shinobu]

19 minutes ago, leadeater said:

Sure why not, everything else in my PC is water cooled, might as well go full crazy.

Soon you'll be able to watercool your watercooler. 

[tp95112]

Never heard of Fsp until now, there's someone out there dumb enough to buy this 

[Oshino Shinobu]

10 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

Calm down, Xzibit.

He'll be starting a new trend soon. 

 

[Guest]

This would be really cool if it wasn't just for show and you'd get a nice performance boost.

[LienusLateTips]

5 minutes ago, tp95112 said:

Never heard of Fsp until now, there's someone out there dumb enough to buy this 

FSP is a large PSU manufacturer, and makes many of be Quiet! better PSUs.

 

AFAIK it's considered better than SeaSonic in the PSU industry

[LinusTech]

1 minute ago, JDE said:

AFAIK it's considered better than SeaSonic in the PSU industry

no

[LinusTech]

1 minute ago, valdyrgramr said:

They're not better than Seasonic as an OEM, but they are one of the better ones.

yes

[LienusLateTips]

6 minutes ago, LinusTech said:

no

 

5 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

They're not better than Seasonic as an OEM, but they are one of the better ones.

@jonnyGURU @Stefan Payne @STRMfrmXMN Probably would know more than me.

 

I'm saying this because they don't do PCB-A in house, while I'm pretty sure FSP does.

 

[xentropa]

31 minutes ago, Vode said:

That‘s not how thermodynamics work. 

The component closest to the outlet of the radiator is exposed to the lowest temp if you have one radiator and multiple components in series.  Back of the loop refers to being farthest from the radiator.

[Energycore]

33 minutes ago, leadeater said:

I have dual 290X's..... .

More power drawn = more heat dissipated by the PSU

3 minutes ago, JDE said:

FSP is a large PSU manufacturer, and makes many of be Quiet! better PSUs.

 

AFAIK it's considered better than SeaSonic in the PSU industry

Nah Seasonic is superior. FSP's like a tier 2.5-ish manufacturer in my book

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, Energycore said:

Nah Seasonic is superior. FSP's like a tier 2.5-ish manufacturer in my book

I'm thinking this since FSP does PCB-A in house last time I checked, while I know SeaSonic doesn't.

[leadeater]

2 minutes ago, xentropa said:

The component closest to the outlet of the radiator is exposed to the lowest temp if you have one radiator and multiple components in series.  Back of the loop refers to being farthest from the radiator.

That's still not how it works unless there is no water flow, if there is water flow it's equal throughout.

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, LinusTech said:

no

I'd have to side with JDE on this one. Solid yes.