Intel to Launch 18-Core/36-Thread "Core i9-7980XE" Skylake-X CPU

[done12many2]

3 minutes ago, Valentyn said:

If AMD brought us dual socket Ryzen people would go mental, like in the old dual FX days.

 

It was such a beauty back in the day!

 

In a dream world, I'd be able to run a 4c/8t part and an 18c/36t part on the same board and switch between them as needed.  Hell while I'm at it, I'd be able to use both simultaneously.  Could you imagine that trace routing.  Might as well throw in some switches so I can disable CPUs too.  lol

[flibberdipper]

On 5/29/2017 at 8:46 AM, Princess Cadence said:

I don't get why is Intel retiring the k and copying AMD's x.... and this xe? this way here in a couple of years we'll have Intel Core i11 9875XEK 2.0

 

Technology companies SUCKS so fucking much at name scheming it is not even fun.

But what about the Gainward GeForce4 PowerPack! Ultra/750-8X XP 128MB Golden Sample FireWire? It's legit a thing. Well, was.

[leadeater]

Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

In an enthusiast system, power consumption is irrelevant. (if performance is there lol ). If Ryzen performed better and drew more power, no enthusiast would really care.

And I've never cared about power draw, couldn't give a damn. Get a better cooler and enjoy the performance, not like that is hard to do particularly now days with AIO water cooling.

[Valentyn]

Just now, done12many2 said:

 

In a dream world, I'd be able to run a 4c/8t part and an 18c/36t part on the same board and switch between them as needed.  Hell while I'm at it, I'd be able to use both simultaneously.  Could you imagine that trace routing.  Might as well through in some switches so I can disable CPUs too.  lol

The switching and tracing would be a nightmare, but my goodness I'd do the exact same!

Who needs a "stream machine" then, or a separate render and encode system.

One day mayhaps.

 

[Brainless906]

4 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

In an enthusiast system, power consumption is irrelevant. (if performance is there lol ). If Ryzen performed better than Intel and drew more power, no enthusiast would really care.

Once again, i'm not arguing. I agree whole heartedly. But its been a sore spot for AMD fans (including myself) for years as one of the arguments that come up against AMD consistently for the past 5 damn years is "LOL ULL SPEND SO MUCH EXTRA ON POWER AND AIR CONDITIONING AMIRITE BOIS??????" and now that the shoes on the other foot nobody seems to bringing up that argument. #shockingnotshocking

EDIT: and if anyone had bothered to go through my post history (lol as if anyone cares), my argument has always been that on a wide scale enthusiasts just want performance and dont give a damn about the power consumption. I've always been in the camp of "if it gives me more performance then keep pumping it full of juice"
 

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, Brainless906 said:

Once again, i'm not arguing. I agree whole heartedly. But its been a sore spot for AMD fans (including myself) for years as one of the arguments that come up against AMD consistently for the past 5 damn years is "LOL ULL SPEND SO MUCH EXTRA ON POWER AND AIR CONDITIONING AMIRITE BOIS??????" and now that the shoes on the other foot nobody seems to bringing up that argument. #shockingnotshocking

You missed this part:

In an enthusiast system, power consumption is irrelevant. (if performance is there lol ). If Ryzen performed better than Intel and drew more power, no enthusiast would really care.

No one is bringing up that argument because these CPUs offer amazing performance, FX's performance was mediocre at best

[done12many2]

Just now, leadeater said:

And I've never cared about power draw, couldn't give a damn. Get a better cooler and enjoy the performance, not like that is hard to do particularly now days with AIO water cooling.

 

That's how I know you're a power hungry enthusiast.  We tend to look at TDPs (which tell us nothing for comparison sake) from a whole different angle.  

 

At the end of the day, guys like us don't care about the fluff and buff.  We want to know what the end result is when used in the capacity that we'll run it.  

 

1 minute ago, Brainless906 said:

Once again, i'm not arguing. I agree whole heartedly. But its been a sore spot for AMD fans (including myself) for years as one of the arguments that come up against AMD consistently for the past 5 damn years is "LOL ULL SPEND SO MUCH EXTRA ON POWER AND AIR CONDITIONING AMIRITE BOIS??????" and now that the shoes on the other foot nobody seems to bringing up that argument. #shockingnotshocking

 

It's because the difference under load between the two is no longer drastic.  It's just about the same, so the shoe really isn't on the other foot so to speak.  They're just the same now.  

 

With that said, nobody can argue that AMD hasn't done a great job because they have and I for one appreciate it.  They've gotten so close that Intel is changing their ways.  That matters a lot!

 

[Brainless906]

11 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

You missed this part:

No one is bringing up that argument because these CPUs offer amazing performance, FX's performance was mediocre at best

waaaaaaaaaaaaat.....noooooooo....fx was....awesome....truly amazing.

 

/s

[Dackzy]

oh god these CPUs are going to be HOT!

[Brainless906]

2 minutes ago, Dackzy said:

oh god these CPUs are going to be HOT!

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh this is intel not AMD. We dont talk about heat here. Plust think of all the savings on heating bills. Its more of a boon really.

[PCGuy_5960]

4 minutes ago, Brainless906 said:

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh this is intel not AMD. We dont talk about heat here. Plust think of all the savings on heating bills. Its more of a boon really.

Keep hating on Skylake-X bud, good luck.

[Brainless906]

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Keep hating on Skylake-X bud, good luck.

The man with the intel logo for a Display pic is taking this far to seriously it seems. Calm down buddy, its all good.

[done12many2]

Just now, Brainless906 said:

The man with the intel logo for a Display pic is taking this far to seriously it seems. Calm down buddy, its all good.

 

Meanwhile, the guy running a 4690k is getting all worked up about Intel's Extreme enthusiast platform.  

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, Brainless906 said:

The man with the intel logo for a Display pic is taking this far to seriously it seems. Calm down buddy, its all good.

Profile pics don't mean jack shit

[Princess Luna]

2 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

Meanwhile, the guy running a 4690k is getting all worked up about Intel's Extreme enthusiast platform.  

That was low

Let sub-peasantry dream too

[tom_w141]

2 hours ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

18-25% increase in IPC and higher clock speeds 

9.8% actually  Also at least you won't need to turn your heating on in the winter. RIP in the summer... If you need to replace the TIM for whatever reason I can send you some Hubba Bubba I think that's what intel use to stick the IHS down.

 

Seriously though not soldering these. What. The. Fuck.

[PCGuy_5960]

2 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

Seriously though not soldering these. What. The. Fuck.

Ikr  I bet that they did this to save costs so that they can be (somewhat) competitive with AMD.... But they really should have soldered them, the die is large enough

[Brainless906]

Just now, done12many2 said:

 

Meanwhile, the guy running a 4690k is getting all worked up about Intel's Extreme enthusiast platform.  

Once again, i'm not getting worked up. I honestly think its funny and once again, my post history can prove that i've vehemently argued against the idea that any enthusiast would actually give a shit about stuff like this in the past.

 

Stop getting your damn panties in a knot yo.

 

[Brainless906]

3 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

That was low

Let sub-peasantry dream too

Ouch my pride? i guess? I feel like it was a personal attack but i'll give them the benefit of the doubt, lol.

[done12many2]

1 minute ago, tom_w141 said:

9.8% actually  Also at least you won't need to turn your heating on in the winter. RIP in the summer... If you need to replace the TIM for whatever reason I can send you some Hubba Bubba I think that's what intel use to stick the IHS down.

 

Good point.  When that AVX 512 gets fired up, things are definitely going to get warm.  AMD doesn't have that problem or option.  They've limited the choice of running AVX for us.  

 

1 minute ago, tom_w141 said:

Seriously though not soldering these. What. The. Fuck.

 

I don't know about that either, but I'll be glad to use LM this go around.  There were slight gains in delidding soldered HWE and BWE chips and I'll take any gain I can with these hot suckers.  

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, Brainless906 said:

Once again, i'm not getting worked up. I honestly think its funny and once again, my post history can prove that i've vehemently argued against the idea that any enthusiast would actually give a shit about stuff like this in the past.

So why do you keep bringing up the same argument all the time?

 

[Dackzy]

15 minutes ago, Brainless906 said:

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh this is intel not AMD. We dont talk about heat here. Plust think of all the savings on heating bills. Its more of a boon really.

Cooling is legit going to be a problem here. The 18c model is going to really hot and really hard to cool because they didn't solder it. Just typical Intel. I hoped that Intel would wake up once they saw that ryzen was soldered, but nope.

[done12many2]

5 minutes ago, Brainless906 said:

Stop getting your damn panties in a knot yo.

 

Says that guy who continues to reply.  Practice what you're trying to preach bud.  Yo!

 

I doubt that you're actually going to upgrade to Threadripper or Skylake-X yo.  I just think you feel like complaining (something you do a great deal of in other threads), which is absolutely within your right, yo!

 

Either way, the chips are going to be hot and that's a fact.  I for one don't care and I will cool them accordingly.  

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, done12many2 said:

Good point.  When that AVX 512 gets fired up, things are definitely going to get warm.  AMD doesn't have that problem or option.  They've limited the choice of running AVX for us.  

The mighty 1800X fails to outperform a (wait for it) 3930K when using AVX

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, done12many2 said:

Either way, the chips are going to be hot

Both literally and figuratively