Intel to Launch 18-Core/36-Thread "Core i9-7980XE" Skylake-X CPU

[Taf the Ghost]

1 minute ago, Valentyn said:

Repackaged and getting a TDP bump to 112W.

Sounds like a crappy deal to me. 

And no iGPU.  Which is probably where they got those chips.

[done12many2]

1 hour ago, Valentyn said:

Repackaged and getting a TDP bump to 112W.

Sounds like a crappy deal to me. 

 

When you see those TDP bumps, it's usually a good sign of overclocking headroom with Intel chips. 

 

 

3 hours ago, dexT said:

7740K on HWBOT http://hwbot.org/ Look at the points!

 

@dexT was nice enough to point this out.  

 

Enthusiasts are going to enjoy this extremely fast little chip for it's single-core performance while having the option of swapping out a large core on the same platform.

[Valentyn]

5 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

 

When you see those TDP bumps, it's usually a good sign of overclocking headroom with Intel chips. 

Maybe, but neither Kabylake X or Skylake X are soldered. Not good unless you plan on delidding.

 

 

 

 

[done12many2]

5 minutes ago, Valentyn said:

Maybe, but neither Kabylake X or Skylake X are soldered. Not good unless you plan on delidding.

 

 

 

 

Considering that Haswell-E and Broadwell-E still benefited from delidding even though they were solder, I'm okay with that.  As an enthusiast, I personally have no issues with having to delid a chip to make them run at much higher clock speeds.  

 

3 hours ago, dexT said:

7740K on HWBOT http://hwbot.org/ Look at the points!

 

The 7740x 4c/8t seems to be off to a very nice start.  Mainstreamers who want to break into the enthusiast line should really enjoy this chip.  I know overclockers/benchmarkers are going to love it.  

 

 

[Valentyn]

Just now, done12many2 said:

 

Considering that Haswell-E and Broadwell-E still benefited from delidding even though they were solder, I'm okay with that.  As an enthusiast, I personally have no issues with having to delid a chip to make them run at much higher clock speeds.  

 

The 7740x 4c/8t seems to be off to a very nice start.  Mainstreamers who want to break into the enthusiast line should really enjoy this chip.  I know overclockers/benchmarkers are going to love it.  

 

 

 

They only benefited if you were using LN2 for extreme clocks. How many people run a tank of that into their system for use at home in high end systems?

 

I see the 7740x as a waste of money. No real benefits over the 7700K; and if you're planning on going X299 you shouldn't bother with it anyway if you needed more cores from the start.

[done12many2]

Just now, Valentyn said:

 

They only benefited if you were using LN2 for extreme clocks. How many people run a tank of that into their system for use at home in high end systems?

 

I see the 7740x as a waste of money. No real benefits over the 7700K; and if you're planning on going X299 you shouldn't bother with it anyway if you needed more cores from the start.

 

Sounds like when it's time to upgrade your 5820k, you should focus on AMD this time around.  

 

As for Haswell-E and Broadwell-E benefiting from delids.  The temp drop occurred regardless of cooling methods so anyone who did it would observe a temp drop.  No tank needed, but I understand your need to exaggerate.    It makes for a better point.  

[Valentyn]

16 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

 

Sounds like when it's time to upgrade your 5820k, you should focus on AMD this time around.  

 

As for Haswell-E and Broadwell-E benefiting from delids.  The temp drop occurred regardless of cooling methods so anyone who did it would observe a temp drop.  No tank needed, but I understand your need to exaggerate.    It makes for a better point.  

The temp drop wasn't much at all. 4 degrees on average max temps. Considering the effort it really wasn't worth it for Broadwell E unless you were running extremely benchmark and LN2 cooling.

Hardly the same drop compared to Kabylake where a maximum of 30 degrees was reported, and 23 average degrees from delidding the replacing the TIM.

Now with normal TIM, and looking back on Intel's thermal performance with it; it'll really be needed. I can't see many people delidding a 8-18 core processor. It's a minority of a minority. Which would mean Skylake X could run very hot for many people.

Upgrading from my 5820K will be either Intel or AMD, I want the best all round system; but Intel scraping pennies by not soldering is not a good thing for anyone.

Nor is Intel only supplying 28 PCIe lanes on the Skylake X 8 core. 

[BRiiTASH]

Price is expected to be $2000. Just let that sink in.

[PCGuy_5960]

4 hours ago, dexT said:

Not soldered

7740K on HWBOT http://hwbot.org/ Look at the points!

Well... fuck

[done12many2]

4 hours ago, dexT said:

7740K on HWBOT http://hwbot.org/ Look at the points!

 

There's going to be some fun with that chip bud.  

 

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Well... fuck

 

I'm going to pre-order that badboy!

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, done12many2 said:

I'm going to pre-order that badboy!

Noice I am probably going to get the 6 core one, for $389 it is an awesome deal (IMO)

[Valentyn]

2 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Noice I am probably going to get the 6 core one, for $389 it is an awesome deal (IMO)

 

New motherboard and CPU for a less than 10% increase in IPC? Mental! 8 Core minimum if I was gong Skylake X.

 

At this rate I'll be waiting until CoffeeLake X, and Zen 3

[PCGuy_5960]

12 hours ago, DeadEyePsycho said:

5 hours ago, lots of unexplainable lag said:

I want you to do it, for science. And a lot of laughing.

 

For the love of whatever you believe in, please do it.

Nah 

[done12many2]

2 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Noice I am probably going to get the 6 core one, for $389 it is an awesome deal (IMO)

 

We can thank AMD for helping us out with the pricing.  

 

This years 10 core part is $700 cheaper with more IPC and overclocking headroom.  Competition is great.  

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, Valentyn said:

 

New motherboard and CPU for a less than 10% increase in IPC? Mental! 8 Core minimum if I was gong Skylake X.

 

At this rate I'll be waiting until CoffeeLake X, and Zen 3

18-25% increase in IPC and higher clock speeds 

[done12many2]

1 minute ago, Valentyn said:

At this rate I'll be waiting until CoffeeLake X, and Zen 3

 

Sounds good.  We'll see you in that thread complaining too.  

[Valentyn]

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

18-25% increase in IPC and higher clock speeds 

Since when is Skylake a 18-25% Increase in IPC over Haswell-E?

 

 

2 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

 

Sounds good.  We'll see you in that thread complaining too.  

 

Depends what either company does! I want a system that's Juuuust right.

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, Valentyn said:

Since when is Skylake a 18-25% Increase in IPC over Haswell-E?

Skylake-X has 11-18% better IPC than Skylake-S

[i_build_nanosuits]

intel has had 24 cores / 48 threads CPU's up for sale since early 2016 so what's the deal with this 18 core one?!

 

https://ark.intel.com/products/93790/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E7-8890-v4-60M-Cache-2_20-GHz

[done12many2]

1 minute ago, Valentyn said:

Since when is Skylake a 18-25% Increase in IPC over Haswell-E?

 

He said IPC and clockspeed advantage combined.  It's in the details man.  Stop trying so hard.  

[captain cactus]

4 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Nah 

Too late now, we have all the official details.

 

Still want someone to do it with a rumour posing it as real.

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, i_build_nanosuits said:

intel has had 24 cores / 48 threads CPU's up for sale since early 2016 so what's the deal with this 18 core one?!

 

https://ark.intel.com/products/93790/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E7-8890-v4-60M-Cache-2_20-GHz

It can clock up to 4.5GHz vs the 2.2GHz on the 24core one?

[Valentyn]

Just now, done12many2 said:

 

He said IPC and clockspeed advantage combined.  It's in the details man.  Stop trying so hard.  

That's only if Skylake X 6 core will overclock a whole lot more.
I hope he buys that delidding tool, might need it.

 

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Skylake-X has 11-18% better IPC than Skylake-S

It does? Got a link.

[i_build_nanosuits]

Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

It can clock up to 4.5GHz vs the 2.2GHz on the 24core one?

4.5ghz on a 18 core chip?! ...good luck with that!

[i_build_nanosuits]

Just now, Valentyn said:

It does? Got a link.

of course it doesn't...it's the same architecture, so 0% IPC improvement.