Microsoft announces the Surface Laptop - aimed at students

[JohnnyCorporalTech]

It looks nice, but I would have liked a few more usb ports and a VGA connection, because there is a ton of older projectors and monitors that only have VGA. 

[Suika]

Heh, for once, the Razer Blade Stealth is beginning to sound more appealing. Desktop applications, 8GB RAM base, USB Type-C, more than one port, lower MSRP... Damn Microsoft, you're selling me other systems. Is that the intention of this product?? Not that I'm advocating for the system, just comparing.

9 minutes ago, JohnnyCorporalTech said:

It looks nice, but I would have liked a few more usb ports and a VGA connection, because there is a ton of older projectors and monitors that only have VGA. 

You did see how thin this system is, right? VGA, or any additional ports would kill the thin and light a e s t h e t i c.

[Drak3]

3 hours ago, Trixanity said:

To answer your question: many use an external mouse so it really isn't fair to exclude it just to try and get a point across

The hope is that they use bluetooth mice that are 'baggable', something like the MS Arc mouse, or the Logitech Ultrathin T630. The Arc folds flat, and the Ultrathin is just flat, and owning both, I'd take either over my older Logitech M325, especially from the prospect of the USB dongle, as it's just a hassle for traveling or school.

 

3 hours ago, Trixanity said:

Many also use thumb drives.

Unless people are frequently backing things up, or keep all their documents on a flash drive, they're not using them that often anymore. Hell, one could use a wireless flash drive if need be.

 

3 hours ago, Trixanity said:

If you want Ethernet you also need an adapter, so that's USB port number 3

Surface Dock works with the Surface laptop. Adds additional USB 3.0 ports, Ethernet, and DisplayPort, as well as charging the device. If one is going to be going that power user with this laptop (which realistically, no one buying this laptop plans on being a power user with it), they're getting a solution like that, not a cheap USB to Ethernet adapter

[flibberdipper]

2 hours ago, MilitantCro said:

Its alcantara, cant get stained just liked that.

Yeah, I'm aware of that. We're talking students here. Students do dumb shit.

[AlTech]

9 hours ago, randomhkkid said:

 

Damn I'd get the SP4 or the Book if I was looking at any options for those prices. You'll get a much nice screen and accessory integration.

It's worth noting that the configurations they are selling are the same price as the Pro 4 but the Pro 4 has a Surface Pen included when this doesn't.......

 

But the Pro 4 is effectively more expensive because $129 keyboard.

[AlTech]

7 hours ago, MoonSpot said:

 

omg, it's actually WORSE an apple laptop

Nope. the cheapest GOOD Apple laptop now starts at $1299 USD......

[Scruffy90]

Starting at $999, I wouldn't touch this unless it came with the non s version of windows 10. This is going to go down the route of windows rt

[MoonSpot]

5 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

Nope. the cheapest GOOD Apple laptop now starts at $1299 USD......

Except macOS can actually run on lower specs.  MS telemetryware needs 1.5Ghz and 3.5GB ram of system resources alone, you get whats left over.

[79wjd]

4 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

Nope. the cheapest GOOD Apple laptop now starts at $1299 USD......

The cheapest Surface laptop with 8gb of ram (and a 256gb ssd) is $1300.

 

4 minutes ago, Scruffy90 said:

Starting at $999, I wouldn't touch this unless it came with the non s version of windows 10. This is going to go down the route of windows rt

There's a free upgrade to Pro. 

[AlTech]

Also, it's worth mentioning that I'm pretty sure this will have all the same issues as the Pro 4 did and does.

 

Real world battery life is not going to be close to what was advertised. There will be issues with resuming/sleeping and also overheating.

 

Just now, MoonSpot said:

Except macOS can actually run on lower specs.  MS telemetryware needs 1.5Ghz and 3.5GB of ram alone.

oh? My mom's MBP is a very low specced model compared to models sold today and it is slow af. It' barely usable.

[AlTech]

Just now, djdwosk97 said:

The cheapest Surface laptop with 8gb of ram (and a 256gb ssd) is $1300.

Yes, I'm aware that is the same price as the MacBook with 8GB RAM and a 2565GB SSD.

[79wjd]

4 minutes ago, MoonSpot said:

Except macOS can actually run on lower specs.  MS telemetryware needs 1.5Ghz and 3.5GB ram of system resources alone

W10 runs fine on my i3-4020y/4gb SP3.

3 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

oh? My mom's MBP is a very low specced model compared to models sold today and it is slow af. It' barely usable.

What does she have/does it have an SSD? because with an SSD my 2007 MBP with a C2D/4gb of ram performs pretty decently. 

[SansVarnic]

Guess we'll have to wait for the Linus review to see how it stands up.

[AlTech]

Just now, djdwosk97 said:

W10 runs fine on my i3/4gb SP3.

^^

Just now, djdwosk97 said:

What does she have/does it have an SSD? because with an SSD my 2007 MBP with a C2D/4gb of ram performs pretty decently. 

HDD, 4GB RAM

 

Just now, SansVarnic said:

Guess we'll have to wait for the Linus review. 

For this kind of product I'd actually wait for multiple reviews and not just one.

[79wjd]

Just now, AluminiumTech said:

HDD

I found your problem. 

 

Also, OS X does like memory more so than Windows. 

[Dabombinable]

Come on MS. Considering we had tablets with detachable keyboards+docks+secondary batteries back in 2011/2012 for around $500AUD (for 32GB models that is). Make a Surface version of the trend setting Asus Transformer Prime (which is actually better than the model that replaced it despite the flawed wireless connectivity).

[SansVarnic]

5 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

For this kind of product I'd actually wait for multiple reviews and not just one.

Of course, I was just generalizing. 

[Dabombinable]

On a side note, at that price who thinks that it will become another Surface RT?

[MoonSpot]

13 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

oh? My mom's MBP is a very low specced model compared to models sold today and it is slow af. It' barely usable.

Garbage vs shit.  What do you want me to say?  I did forget the /s for the spewed out resources, but regardless its under spec'd for the price.  This screams pretension, and that's all as far as I can see.

[DildorTheDecent]

1 hour ago, Suika said:

a e s t h e t i c.

I believe the word is ａｅｓｔｈｅｔｉｃ

[dexT]

So $1000 for a dual-core i5 with 4GB or RAM? Is this for Apple enthusiasts?

 

My Lenovo with Kaby i7 7500U and 12GB DDR4 was less than $500 BTW.

[GoodBytes]

36 minutes ago, dexT said:

My Lenovo with Kaby i7 7500U and 12GB DDR4 was less than $500 BTW.

And what laptop that would be?

[GoodBytes]

2 hours ago, JohnnyCorporalTech said:

It looks nice, but I would have liked a few more usb ports and a VGA connection, because there is a ton of older projectors and monitors that only have VGA. 

DisplayPort can be converted down to VGA.

[HelplmChoking]

Wow that's a gorgeous laptop, I might look into picking one up.

[Guest lilbman]

11 hours ago, Abyssal Radon said:

Grad school laptop for me? Jk... looks cool. I wonder what the prices will be. To me this looks like MS' attempt to reach in to the college audience. 

They're trying to compete with Apple because a large amount of college students use Macbooks.  If they didn't have Windows S I'd be down to buy one just to have.