First time building A pc

[Sai125943]

Budget (including currency):  $2,300

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for:  Major titles and some editing and rendering 

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

HI, I was wondering if this was a good build and if there are any other alternative parts that are  cheaper or better.All recommendations helpfull. Thank you

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Saistic/saved/#view=fVmJkL

[BentleyOwen123]

looks good, although go for a dram gen4 ssd, much faster, and 4080 super is the best in your budget i believe, unless your ok going amd gpu

[BentleyOwen123]

only put black aio cause it had a price, get the white one : )

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/99tBRK

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($368.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool LS720 SE 85.85 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($191.53 @ Amazon) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($98.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($120.15 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: PowerColor Hellhound Spectral Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  ($1059.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: NZXT H9 Flow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($159.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2199.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-01 16:27 EDT-0400

[filpo]

12 minutes ago, Sai125943 said:

Budget (including currency):  $2,300

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for:  Major titles and some editing and rendering 

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

HI, I was wondering if this was a good build and if there are any other alternative parts that are  cheaper or better.All recommendations helpfull. Thank you

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Saistic/saved/#view=fVmJkL

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($358.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: *be quiet! Pure Loop 2 Liquid CPU Cooler  ($104.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($169.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: *Silicon Power XPOWER Zenith Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($97.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Acer Predator GM7000 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($134.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: *Asus TUF GAMING GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card  ($999.99 @ ASUS) 
Case: *Montech SKY TWO ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: *be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($129.90 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2086.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-01 16:29 EDT-0400

 

here's a white build

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($358.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool LT720 WH 85.85 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX ICE ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($219.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: *Silicon Power XPOWER Zenith Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($97.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Acer Predator GM7000 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($134.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Zotac GAMING Trinity OC GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card  ($1019.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Montech SKY TWO ATX Mid Tower Case  ($82.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: *be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($129.90 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2154.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-01 16:35 EDT-0400

5 minutes ago, BentleyOwen123 said:

Video Card: PowerColor Hellhound Spectral Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  ($1059.99 @ Amazon) 

Why so much? It should be $900

5 minutes ago, BentleyOwen123 said:

Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($120.15 @ Amazon) 

Oof. That should be the price of a 2tb dram ssd not a 1tb

Edited May 1 by filpo
included a white build

[BentleyOwen123]

1 minute ago, filpo said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($358.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: *be quiet! Pure Loop 2 Liquid CPU Cooler  ($104.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($169.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: *Silicon Power XPOWER Zenith Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($97.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Acer Predator GM7000 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($134.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: *Asus TUF GAMING GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card  ($999.99 @ ASUS) 
Case: *Montech SKY TWO ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: *be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($129.90 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2086.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-01 16:29 EDT-0400

Why so much? It should be $900

Oof. That should be the price of a 2tb dram ssd not a 1tb

sorry put it together fast, it's the cheapest one in white. and yea thats true about the ssd my bad haha

[BentleyOwen123]

always forget those acers are steals

[filpo]

1 minute ago, BentleyOwen123 said:

sorry put it together fast, it's the cheapest one in white. and yea thats true about the ssd my bad haha

no my bad, didn't see they wanted a white system. Editing now

on a separate note @Sai125943 do you have a microcenter nearby?

Edited May 1 by filpo

[Why_Me]

41 minutes ago, Sai125943 said:

Budget (including currency):  $2,300

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for:  Major titles and some editing and rendering 

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

HI, I was wondering if this was a good build and if there are any other alternative parts that are  cheaper or better.All recommendations helpfull. Thank you

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Saistic/saved/#view=fVmJkL

You want a 850W psu for that gpu.

[Sai125943]

Kind of. Its like 2 hours away is it worth the trip?

[Sai125943]

49 minutes ago, BentleyOwen123 said:

only put black aio cause it had a price, get the white one : )

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/99tBRK

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($368.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool LS720 SE 85.85 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($191.53 @ Amazon) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($98.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($120.15 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: PowerColor Hellhound Spectral Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  ($1059.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: NZXT H9 Flow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($159.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2199.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-01 16:27 EDT-0400

ok, Thank you so much

[filpo]

2 minutes ago, Sai125943 said:

Kind of. Its like 2 hours away is it worth the trip?

Not for this budget, you'd just save around $100, so no not for this

[Sai125943]

5 minutes ago, filpo said:

Not for this budget, you'd just save around $100, so no not for this

 Also do you know if keeping a white case clean is  a problem? I used to have a white keyboard and it was always a mess.

[filpo]

1 minute ago, Sai125943 said:

 Also do you know if keeping a white case clean is  a problem? I used to have a white keyboard and it was always a mess.

I had a white 4000D and the outside was OK, cleaning around once a month, but the inside was horrible mostly due to the dust and a few other black particles so i cleaned it about twice a week since it was on my floor upstairs where it was quite dusty 

Right now I have a white NR200P (my mum really wanted the case to be white) and it is much cleaner (though the case is basically all filters and it's on a much less dustier platform AND I don't use it as much). But I'm saying this only from my personal experience. Do know that my 4000D was on a VERY dust floor and I used it quite a bit

 

The white builds in pcpartpicker look fine though so I'd say you can go for a white case

[Aereldor]

On 5/1/2024 at 4:22 PM, Sai125943 said:

HI, I was wondering if this was a good build and if there are any other alternative parts that are  cheaper or better.All recommendations helpfull. Thank you

It's a good build, but as your first PC, this does not include a keyboard, monitor, or mouse, all of which you will need. 

 

And as your first PC, $2300 plus a monitor good enough to take advantage of that hardware, plus peripherals, you're looking at $2600 or more. Are you sure you want to spend that much? You can have a VERY good PC gaming experience for literally a quarter the price. 

 

Consider doing that and saving almost $2000, for what I'm going to go out on a limb and say is a comparable experience. And that's coming from someone who plays at 4k 120hz

I managed to get in a 6-core CPU, a very capable 1080p GPU with decent ray tracing, a 100hz freesync monitor, a mechanical keyboard, and a decent gaming mouse too. 

 

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5500 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($93.98 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI B450M-A PRO MAX II Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($69.98 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($33.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: MSI SPATIUM M371 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($64.99 @ MSI) 
Video Card: ASRock Challenger D Arc A750 8 GB Video Card  ($199.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cooler Master Q300L V2 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: MSI MAG A550BN 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($49.00 @ MSI) 
Monitor: MSI Pro MP243XW 23.8" 1920 x 1080 100 Hz Monitor  ($89.00 @ MSI) 
Keyboard: Tecware Tecware Phantom L RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($19.98 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: EVGA X20 Wired/Bluetooth/Wireless Optical Mouse  ($17.98 @ Amazon) 
Total: $688.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-02 22:11 EDT-0400

 

 

[BentleyOwen123]

6 minutes ago, Sai125943 said:

 Also do you know if keeping a white case clean is  a problem? I used to have a white keyboard and it was always a mess.

ummm not if you refrain from touching it with cheeto dust on your fingers you should be fine

[BentleyOwen123]

15 minutes ago, filpo said:

Not for this budget, you'd just save around $100, so no not for this

 

no? with the  7800x3d bundle?

 

 

 

edit(thought you said ten)

[BentleyOwen123]

*deleted*

[filpo]

1 minute ago, BentleyOwen123 said:

 

no? with the  7800x3d bundle?

 

 

 

edit(thought you said ten)

3 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

You can have a VERY good PC gaming experience for literally a quarter the price. 

it'll be good, but it won't be amazing 

performance can be 3x better

4 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 4500 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($77.77 @ Amazon) 

even a quad core intel can beat it. 3600 is miles better

5 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 4500 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($77.77 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI B450M-A PRO MAX II Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($69.98 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($33.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: MSI SPATIUM M371 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($66.98 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: PowerColor Fighter Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card  ($194.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Cooler Master Q300L V2 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: MSI MAG A550BN 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: MSI Pro MP243XW 23.8" 1920 x 1080 100 Hz Monitor  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Keyboard: Tecware Tecware Phantom L RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($19.98 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: EVGA X20 Wired/Bluetooth/Wireless Optical Mouse  ($17.98 @ Amazon) 

why tho? they have set their budget high because they want a computer that mirrors that

and for $40 more. But this isn't for this thread, budget is already at $2300 so might as well use some of it

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($139.00 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock B550M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: *Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($33.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Leven JPS800 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Phanteks XT PRO ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($59.00 @ MSI) 
Monitor: MSI G244F 23.8" 1920 x 1080 170 Hz Monitor  ($104.99 @ Best Buy) 
Keyboard: Redragon S101 Wired Gaming Keyboard With Optical Mouse  ($39.99 @ Amazon) 
Custom: Used 5700 XT ($135.00)
Total: $711.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-01 17:44 EDT-0400

[BentleyOwen123]

14 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

It's a good build, but as your first PC, this does not include a keyboard, monitor, or mouse, all of which you will need. 

 

And as your first PC, $2300 plus a monitor good enough to take advantage of that hardware, plus peripherals, you're looking at $2600 or more. Are you sure you want to spend that much? You can have a VERY good PC gaming experience for literally a quarter the price. 

 

Consider doing that and saving almost $2000, for what I'm going to go out on a limb and say is a comparable experience. And that's coming from someone who plays at 4k 120hz

I managed to get in a 6-core CPU, a very capable 1080p GPU, a 100hz freesync monitor, a mechanical keyboard, and a decent gaming mouse too. 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 4500 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($77.77 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI B450M-A PRO MAX II Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($69.98 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($33.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: MSI SPATIUM M371 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($66.98 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: PowerColor Fighter Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card  ($194.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Cooler Master Q300L V2 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: MSI MAG A550BN 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: MSI Pro MP243XW 23.8" 1920 x 1080 100 Hz Monitor  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Keyboard: Tecware Tecware Phantom L RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($19.98 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: EVGA X20 Wired/Bluetooth/Wireless Optical Mouse  ($17.98 @ Amazon) 
Total: $671.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-01 17:30 EDT-0400

i think if he wanted a baseline 1080p rig he would likely have said that, crazy to think people want nice things right????? *CRAZY*

[BentleyOwen123]

15 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

It's a good build, but as your first PC, this does not include a keyboard, monitor, or mouse, all of which you will need. 

 

And as your first PC, $2300 plus a monitor good enough to take advantage of that hardware, plus peripherals, you're looking at $2600 or more. Are you sure you want to spend that much? You can have a VERY good PC gaming experience for literally a quarter the price. 

 

Consider doing that and saving almost $2000, for what I'm going to go out on a limb and say is a comparable experience. And that's coming from someone who plays at 4k 120hz

I managed to get in a 6-core CPU, a very capable 1080p GPU, a 100hz freesync monitor, a mechanical keyboard, and a decent gaming mouse too. 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 4500 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($77.77 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI B450M-A PRO MAX II Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($69.98 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($33.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: MSI SPATIUM M371 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($66.98 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: PowerColor Fighter Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card  ($194.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Cooler Master Q300L V2 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: MSI MAG A550BN 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: MSI Pro MP243XW 23.8" 1920 x 1080 100 Hz Monitor  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Keyboard: Tecware Tecware Phantom L RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($19.98 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: EVGA X20 Wired/Bluetooth/Wireless Optical Mouse  ($17.98 @ Amazon) 
Total: $671.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-01 17:30 EDT-0400

also the reasons to buy that cpu stop at it being the color orange.......

 

Which it is not, that cpu is one of the WORST options, even for a budget, a 5500, which still isnt good, is way better, or a i3 1200f. Please never recomend this cpu to someone

[Aereldor]

On 5/1/2024 at 5:50 PM, BentleyOwen123 said:

also the reasons to buy that cpu stop at it being the color orange.......

 

Which it is not, that cpu is one of the WORST options, even for a budget, a 5500, which still isnt good, is way better, or a i3 1200f. Please never recomend this cpu to someone

That was a mistake, they show up right next to each other on PCPartPicker with my parameters, updated post. 

 

On 5/1/2024 at 5:48 PM, BentleyOwen123 said:

i think if he wanted a baseline 1080p rig he would likely have said that, crazy to think people want nice things right????? *CRAZY*

They made a post about 2 months ago trying to cut costs on a $1500 build, I'd imagine it's in their interests to save money, and I wanted to propose an alternative.

 

I had two friends who wanted to build PCs and were prepared to spend $1500 to target 1440p 144hz. Compared to 1080p 100hz for half the price, they were both glad they saved the money for a comparable experience. Both of them got a Ryzen 5500 and an RX 6600. It's a suggestion.

[BentleyOwen123]

14 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

That was a mistake, they show up right next to each other on PCPartPicker with my parameters, updated post. 

 

They made a post about 2 months ago trying to cut costs on a $1500 build, I'd imagine it's in their interests to save money, and I wanted to propose an alternative.

 

I had two friends who wanted to build PCs and were prepared to spend $1500 to target 1440p 144hz. Compared to 1080p 100hz for half the price, they were both glad they saved the money for a comparable experience. Both of them got a Ryzen 5500 and an RX 6600. It's a suggestion.

im not disagreeing with that, the 5500 and 6600 are perfectly fine, i was running those just months ago, but i then upgraded to fit my needs and wants, if he was in the market for a 1080p pc, he would have asked for that.

[Aereldor]

1 hour ago, BentleyOwen123 said:

im not disagreeing with that, the 5500 and 6600 are perfectly fine, i was running those just months ago, but i then upgraded to fit my needs and wants, if he was in the market for a 1080p pc, he would have asked for that.

There's a very prevalent misconception that you need to spend a ton of money to have a decent PC gaming experience, which is a pretty harmful myth. 

 

IMO the biggest determinant of how good a game feels is framerate; easier to hit with a 1080p than a 1440p target. Resolution and screen size is more subtle, the difference in PPI or area between a 24" 1080p monitor and a 27" 1440p monitor isn't enormous, about 25%. 

 

A 6600 at 1080p isn't far off a 4070 Super at 1440p at 1/3rd the price. With optimised settings (usually a mix of medium and high) games look indistinguishable to Ultra, so I struggle to think of a visual fidelity difference on the expensive card. Upscaling is kinda moot at 1080p.

 

It gives up on good Ray Tracing. Swapping to an Intel Arc A750 would fix that... Actually I'm going to update the build with that.

 

I think above 1080p you experience pretty severe diminishing returns for cost, and I'm writing this from a 4k 120hz 48" display lol. 

[Aereldor]

On 5/1/2024 at 5:25 PM, Sai125943 said:

 Also do you know if keeping a white case clean is  a problem? I used to have a white keyboard and it was always a mess.

Actually really depends on the kind of dust you have around lol. Where I used to live it would show up way more prominently on a black case because it was a light brown. Here in New York it's grayer and shows up on whites more. But get a duster for the outside and a can of compressed air for the inside - or a vaccuum on its blow setting - you'll be fine.