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AM4 B350 Will Support CrossFire!!!

YoloSwag

It seems that AMD's mid range chipset will support multi-GPU configurations, but only CrossFire. This actually is good and makes sense for people on a budget.

 

Originally from computerbase.de and then translated and published by techpowerup -

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Only AMD's top-of-the-line X370 chipset will support competing NVIDIA's SLI technology. AMD's next-in-line B350 eschews SLI support but retains CrossFire compatibility, while the low-end A320 chipset will offer no support for any such multi-GPU technologies.

Everyone knows that SLi is actually a tax people have to pay on 'Z' series motherboards (for intel) whether or not you actually use the feature. The B350 is a budget friendly chipset that (according to early speculations) has some overclocking functionality (if you're Ryzen CPU is the 'X' variant) which makes it very attractive to your wallet.

 

All aboard the Hype Train!

 

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Funny thing is, the wikipedia page is up to date.

 

***CORRECTION - B350 does support overclocking on all Ryzen CPUs.

I was confused about XFR and 'X' variants :P

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For me I start with the "There's no way I'm not gonna spend $1,000 on a system."

Followed by the "Wow I need to buy the OS for a $100!?"

Then "Let's start with the 'best budget GPU' and 'best budget CPU' that actually fits what I think is my budget."

Realizing my budget is a lot less, I work my way to "I think these new games will run on a cheap ass CPU."

Then end with "The new parts launching next year is probably gonna be better and faster for the same price so I'll just buy next year."

 

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3 minutes ago, YoloSwag said:

The B350 is a budget friendly chipset that (according to early speculations) has some overclocking functionality (if you're Ryzen CPU is the 'X' variant)

The b350 CAN overclock, and every Ryzen chip can too, the X versions are just supposed to be binned higher for XFR 

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7 minutes ago, Megah3rtz said:

The b350 CAN overclock, and every Ryzen chip can too, the X versions are just supposed to be binned higher for XFR 

Ah yes, I was thinking about something else. Thanks.

 

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More curious if the sff x300 chipset will. Would mean dtx boards. 

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Yay, a feature very few will probably use especially if they're going for a B series board! 

3 minutes ago, goodtofufriday said:

More curious if the sff x300 chipset will. Would mean dtx boards. 

Highly unlikely. DTX has been dead for quite a while, and even if it was alive you can't really fit 2 graphics cards unless you use single slot cards, which negates the whole purpose as they're generally very low end. 

Plus who makes cases with DTX support? 

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Technically, a chipset is not required.  The processor itself has a few sata ports and a few usb ports built in, so you could build an ITX or smaller board without any chipset.

The "chipset" is just a hub, it connects  a sata controller, a bunch of usb controllers and other things to the pci-e v3.0 x4 link that comes from the cpu.

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2 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Yay, a feature very few will probably use especially if they're going for a B series board! 

Highly unlikely. DTX has been dead for quite a while, and even if it was alive you can't really fit 2 graphics cards unless you use single slot cards, which negates the whole purpose as they're generally very low end. 

Plus who makes cases with DTX support? 

Ncase supports dtx boards, CM 110 as well. 

Single slot watwr cooled cards? Rads would be a hard fit but man it would be hella dope. 

 

Just a hope i have anyways. I more just wamt itx boards withthe x300 chipset to show up already. 

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Nothing special about it. Cfx can run on x4.

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39 minutes ago, goodtofufriday said:

Ncase supports dtx boards, CM 110 as well. 

Single slot watwr cooled cards? Rads would be a hard fit but man it would be hella dope. 

 

Just a hope i have anyways. I more just wamt itx boards withthe x300 chipset to show up already. 

NCase supports MiniDTX. Which has one extra PCI slot, not a graphics card slot.

I feel ya though, I'm in the same boat. But I'm also waiting for the Ryzen 5 chips, and then the benchmarks to go along with them so I have a feeling I'll be waiting a very, very long time. Not a fan of the way AMD decided to do this launch.

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Not good enough, X370 mATX or GTFO

 

Will bitch and whine about this forever

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10 minutes ago, That Norwegian Guy said:

Not good enough, X370 mATX or GTFO

 

Will bitch and whine about this forever

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So basically because they probably couldn't reach a deal with Nvidia now they're forcing all Nvidia users into a higher tier for the benefit?

 

Sorry but this is a shit move.

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18 minutes ago, That Norwegian Guy said:

Not good enough, X370 mATX or GTFO

 

Will bitch and whine about this forever

Then bitch and whine for all eternity. :P

 

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1 hour ago, dizmo said:

Which has one extra PCI slot, not a graphics card slot.

Commonly, yes. But it's not a requirement to host both a PCI and PCIe slot. Some have a PCIe x16 and PCIe x1 slot paring, and completely lack PCI.

 

But without single slot variants of cards worth crossfiring, it's a mute point. Single slot cards like that would require water cooling or thermal throttle, which could negate the smaller form factor a bit.

 

1 minute ago, Misanthrope said:

So basically because they probably couldn't reach a deal with Nvidia now they're forcing all Nvidia users into a higher tier for the benefit?

 

Sorry but this is a shit move.

Nvidia charges for SLI certification. A waste of money for a 'budget' chipset.

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10 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Commonly, yes. But it's not a requirement to host both a PCI and PCIe slot. Some have a PCIe x16 and PCIe x1 slot paring, and completely lack PCI.

 

But without single slot variants of cards worth crossfiring, it's a mute point. Single slot cards like that would require water cooling or thermal throttle, which could negate the smaller form factor a bit.

Yeah, exactly. Radiators and such would take up huge space. Though some like cases with ITX and room for extensive water cooling...though I have no idea why. At that point get mATX.

I believe the word you were looking for was moot.

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4 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Yeah, exactly. Radiators and such would take up huge space. Though some like cases with ITX and room for extensive water cooling...though I have no idea why. At that point get mATX.

I mean, for custom cases, such as a smaller desk PC, it'd be a decent option.

 

5 minutes ago, dizmo said:

The word you were looking for was moot.

Noted.

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I thought it was up to motherboard manufacturers to have support enabled or disabled....and don't all motherboards with AMD chipsets have crossfire support (as in from when it was with dual GPU cards only, to bridged -later on bridgless- crossfire)?

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1 hour ago, Misanthrope said:

So basically because they probably couldn't reach a deal with Nvidia now they're forcing all Nvidia users into a higher tier for the benefit?

 

Sorry but this is a shit move.

Why is it a bad move for AMD? It's the same thing with Intel chipsets. Want SLI then pay more for it with some of the Z or X base chipsets.

I say some of the Z is, not all of them can do SLI, cheap ones only does CFX.

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1 hour ago, NumLock21 said:

Why is it a bad move for AMD?

You immediately answered that yourself:

 

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Want SLI then pay more for it 

 

Do I need to remind you that AMD still has no upper mid tier or high tier GPUs? This are the prime and only recommended candidates for dual or multi GPUs. You're putting a limitation on your platform on a very high percentage of users since well, you haven't fucking sold high end GPUs for what almost a fucking year now?

 

They should have absorbed the costs of licensing SLI for the lower end chipsets.

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