UK Government to force all online porn users to identify themselves

[DeadEyeKozi]

Basically, if you know nothing about technology I don't know what to tell you, but if you are not trapped in a cupboard, you can just torrent, or use proxies, its not really that hard. And unless they require a drivers license and or passport, whats to stop anyone from putting a fake age?

[Davehaslanded]

Wow there is some really anti UK sentiment in here. So a few things to make clear:

 

1. Yes we have a Tory government that is generally run my old fuddy duddys that dont understand technology.

 

2. Yes a stupid porn law was introduced last year regarding porn, however it only affects porn 'made' in the UK. I can assure you that it's still very much accessible from the UK. As for those saying that we role over and take things, search YouTube for Parliment BDSM protest. People staged a 'facesitting' outside Parliment. 

 

3. I don't pretend to fully understand UK law making, but from our point of view, it seems far worse (with stories of awful laws being pinned onto seemingly innocent laws to sneak them past the public'. 

Min the UK, a bill must be written, then put forward for review, it has to be voted in by a majority of MPs made up of 3 or 4 parties. It then has to be voted in by the House of Lords, before finally being signed off by the crown. 

 

4. Not sure why the UK has been portrayed as a religious pin up country. We may be historically Religious (church of England, not catholic) however, church numbers are lower than ever and over half of the U.K. do not attend any kind of religious gatherings. I myself am atheist and have never had any issues or prejudice. 

 

5. I personally do not agree with this law. Internet safety is not the responsibility of the Internet or providers. It's Dow. To parents, whom shouldn't be left unsupervised online anyway. 

Also please bare in mind that the US govt isn't exactly up front about its activities online. Not only do they like to monitor their own people, but every other country too, something that has soured the USA's relationship with Europe over the last few years. 

[Jahramika]

1 hour ago, Citadelen said:

Are you trying to say people who aren't religious can't have morals?  If I'm being honest I don't think the US has ever been a great country. What do you mean "the right thing when no one else is looking"?

Ya okay my proof is everyone around the world for the last 200 years flees to here because all the other country's were better! Ya things are changing it seems though lately about being better. Name one dictators or tyrant from America. George Washington  gave the country back to the people unlike other generals thru history. By the way all of Europe would still live under kings and Queens if not for America's leadership in history so stuff you learn history.

[SurvivorNVL]

2 minutes ago, Jahramika said:

Ya okay my proof is everyone around the world for the last 200 years flees to here because all the other country's were better! Ya things are changing it seems though lately about being better. Name one dictators or tyrant from America. George Washington  gave the country back to the people unlike other generals thru history. By the way all of Europe would still live under kings and Queens if not for America's leadership in history so stuff you learn history.

Probably a nicer way of saying things than ending it with, "Stuff you.  Learn history.", right?

[eyecantseeover24fps]

NA>EU

 

Britain as well as most of Europe is run by SJWs.

[Davehaslanded]

Just now, eyecantseeover24fps said:

NA>EU

 

Britain as well as most of Europe is run by SJWs.

The U.K. Has been heading towards a nanny state for a while, but the general public is pushing back against it. 

[Jahramika]

7 minutes ago, SurvivorNVL said:

Probably a nicer way of saying things than ending it with, "Stuff you.  Learn history.", right?

Your right my bad just don't like people saying unpleasant comments about my country.

[TechGod]

2 hours ago, Marziman said:

Well I'm glad I lack something non-existent like "Common Since"  and as far as I'm concerned no one created god, he's always been there.  There was no who or how, it's just always been.  His true son, Jesus, came to Earth and did the things he did through the faith of God and the holy trinity.  You aren't as analytical as you thought you were since you haven't analyzed religion or what it means to be "faithful" as you run around like a chicken with its head cut off trying to find a meaning you won't find without faith.  Also, I've given you real answers though you refute them with your stubbornness.  I can't explain further of how the bible was not created by man and when I say it wasn't made by man, I mean the literature wasn't just thought up by man.  It's the word of God, spoken to certain beings that then wrote it.

 

You realize the bible is 66 books in one, written in 3 different languages, on 3 different continents and by prophets of all walks of life.

Who defines the true son? Huh? For us that would be Lord Krishna. Who are YOU to state your religion is true and others aren't?

[TechGod]

2 hours ago, Jahramika said:

At one time porn, public nudity, skirt below the knees only, swearing was not accepted or allowed. thank your friendly ACLU for making prayer or God a bad thing. We are going down a slippery slope and just behind the rest of the world on that path. America was a great country because we use to believe in something greater than our self. We was a great country because we use to do the right thing while no one else was looking.

Saying aethists lack morals. You're a horrible, horrible person. 

[Davehaslanded]

23 minutes ago, Arokhantos said:

 

The UK actually exiting the EU and they never done anything for the EU heck they should be booted from the EU for this reason alone anyway.

The U.K. Will not exit the EU because the idiots who don't understand it are the ones that won't bother going to vote in the referendum. 

 

The EU does a lot for the UK, including reinforcing civil rights that the Torys have constantly tried to 'adjust'. 

 

On on the flip side, we had to assist In bailing out countries in financial difficulties and providing open trade borders. 

[Albatross]

This is crazy but not surprising.  Hopefully it doesn't actually happen.

[WelshDdraig]

So the people in the UK have to identify themselves to watch porn. If that happens, I can see half of parliament resigning within a day when the names become public if a Freedom of Information request is made. Also, after the fiasco with the pig, David Cameron is in no position to accept this. 

[Lethal Seraph]

David Cameron likes the video 'pig initiation' on P*rnHub.

 

 

[Bouzoo]

The time has come to use Darth Invader. 

[That Norwegian Guy]

No websites will agree to it though, so literally everything will be "blocked" in UK. Since everyone but politicians know how to use a VPN, nobody will care, or notice.

[Thony]

So they want to about us, but when someone calls them pedos they get offended and deny it. WOW.
Also, how can they shut down a website that is not based in UK ?! Are they planning on blocking the url ?

Is it north korea or china that block half the internet for its citizens ? Guess i could move there instead now...

[Katorice]

impossibru!

 

torrents are still a thing. and god forbid parents learn basic networking and block sites.

idiots trying to control something they know nothing about. this will be amusing.

[Citadelen]

6 hours ago, SurvivorNVL said:

That is where we differ.  For the U.S. it has traditionally been up to the citizens to provide for their own well-being and elevate toward better and healthier places in society.  The Federal government interacted with the States, and the States collected taxes from their respective citizens, and paid money in to the Federal Government which existed for Defense, and relations between States and foreign governments(As well as post-offices, some roads, and the minting of currency).  Free-business, unfettered.  Health care would be up to a business or private insurance companies, and if you didn't like one, you went to another as they'd be expected to compete which few have incentive to do as they don't have to.  They drew their lines and territories, because regulations keep smaller entities from getting in to the game.  Lobbying has contributed as well to harming competition. 

The State is - Defense, relations, patents, and a place of conversation between States on the actions of the country or direction(And other stuff as listed before). The rest is up to individual States(or supposed to be) as they are the ones that give power to the entity that is known as the Federal Government.  

All of this aside:  I really like English food.  They've some creative uses for jams.

And that's what you believe, I'll respect that, nice debating with you.

[LukeTim]

9 hours ago, Weird Face said:

 

And that's a problem... why? Why shouldn't law-abiding citizens be left alone?

 

That's the point. That's the whole reason the quote has been brought up again and again. Because it has awful fascist undertones that creep everyone the fuck out.

 

I think at the time he was talking about terrorism or something.

[IAcKI]

8 hours ago, super_skank said:

This is what happens when you elect a tory government, its been so long (1992) since they had free reign that people forgot what utter cuntfacedtwatbaskets they are.

And Labour are any better? 

[Citadelen]

4 minutes ago, IAcKI said:

And Labour are any better? 

With Jeremy Corbyn being elected leader now then yes, massively so, he's a proper socialist and actually cares about the people.

[IAcKI]

Just now, Citadelen said:

With Jeremy Corbyn being elected leader now then yes, massively so, he's a proper socialist and actually cares about the people.

I see what you mean, some of his policies I can totally get behind. Others are just bat shit crazy!

[Citadelen]

1 minute ago, IAcKI said:

I see what you mean, some of his policies I can totally get behind. Others are just bat shit crazy!

I don't agree with his foreign policy, but if it means the torys will be ousted from number 10 then I'm willing to vote for him.

[MrDynamicMan]

8 hours ago, Marziman said:

I think it's fine that you're different from me.  What I don't think is fine is when you say something like "I was raised to analyze stuff" Then not back it up.  Here is one instance for you, How could a human write a book in great detail about the conception of the Earth and how the galaxies were created?  They can't is the answer and nowhere in the bible does it say God spoke with a human about what he did.

Alright, nope, nope, nope.  A human can write that book because we are intelligent enough to logically define, demonstrate, and prove the physics true. These laws can then be applied to predict the how galaxies and the earth was formed.

 

How can you prove that god created the universe?

this argument can be pointed in either direction.

[Prysin]

9 hours ago, Syntaxvgm said:

What? Are you fucking kidding me? Do they not know how the internet works? 

No, fuck you. You don't get to justify everything under "But the children!" and "stopping terrorism". 

 

 

 

And think of the blackmailing opportunities! 

 

Not related to this article, but someone on reddit broght up this Cameron quote 

As a U.S. citizen, I see shit like this happening across the pond and I fear that in years to come, we'll follow in their footsteps. 

 

They should really screw themselves. With an ice auger. I'd give an ID to watch that. 

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/technology/government-to-force-all-online-porn-users-to-identify-themselves-34458479.html

 

 

 

hhonestly, this is purely an issue because as it is there is no control over this. Short of belieiving in blunt honesty.
However this is only happening because the UK has turned into a "nanny state" as jeremy Clarkson often say. They do anything to make sure human stupidity cannot happen. As if padding the whole civilian population will make sure NOOEN is hurt. lol.
all the UK giv is doing is making life harder for the average joe.this wont happen in the US, simply because it would infringe on so many "freedoms" that even the more conservative parts of the country would argue, not for the conent, but for the principle, against such a ruling.