UK Government to force all online porn users to identify themselves

[Jahramika]

1 minute ago, Citadelen said:

Umm, I don't particularly want to make any porn, regardless of what you think.

Lol it was sarcastic and my point was young kids should be trying to have sex with each other not watching porn in the first place. 

[Citadelen]

Just now, Jahramika said:

Lol it was sarcastic and my point was young kids should be trying to have sex with each other not watching porn in the first place. 

Your really not making this any better for yourself...

[Marziman]

1 minute ago, Citadelen said:

Umm, I don't particularly want to make any porn, regardless of what you think.

The should be making age appropriate porn!  What if my 4 year old son needs to take a wank?  I can't have him watching the hard core stuff no no no!  Imagine it now guys "Child porn, porn for kids!" "And Uncle Touchy with his naked puzzle basement" I can see it now, two 3 year olds putting their Thomas the train engines into a tunnel and the 4 year old going nuts.

[Marziman]

1 minute ago, Citadelen said:

Your really not making this any better for yourself...

My thoughts exactly.

[Mazeman03]

Just now, Marziman said:

Well I'm glad I lack something non-existent like "Common Since"  and as far as I'm concerned no one created god, he's always been there.  There was no who or how, it's just always been.  His true son, Jesus, came to Earth and did the things he did through the faith of God and the holy trinity.  You aren't as analytical as you thought you were since you haven't analyzed religion or what it means to be "faithful" as you run around like a chicken with its head cut off trying to find a meaning you won't find without faith.  Also, I've given you real answers though you refute them with your stubbornness.  I can't explain further of how the bible was not created by man and when I say it wasn't made by man, I mean the literature wasn't just thought up by man.  It's the word of God, spoken to certain beings that then wrote it.

 

You realize the bible is 66 books in one, written in 3 different languages, on 3 different continents and by prophets of all walks of life.

this is the thing tho. religion was created to help control. when people started to expand and groups got bigger they needed control. policing everyone would not work so they thought, hey why not just make up something to help control. my reason for this is well what does religion do? what it does is uses people's fear (death) to scar them. you my as how does this work? well you can't prove what happens after death can you? no you can't. so they say you have to follow this, this and this or this will happen, and the religion has changed with times, as people got smarter they made new testaments, in the old testament it said something like if you dont listen to your parents you go to hell. but as times changed they decided to take that out and say oh thats old it doesn't matter.

 

it was also created for power. most of the rules back in time would say that god has spoke to them and told them the are the might and holy leader and thats how they come to power, and the people believe it because if they dont then well they go to hell or whatever the punishment is in their religion.

 

again this is my thought.

 

and i love how you say oh god is just there because that makes since. for something to BE it has to be created.

even jesus was created he didn't just one day show up. saying  that he is just there means well i have no idea. because you can't answer how was god created it's the only big flaw in most religions. it didn't matter back in time because everyone was too scared to question it. and were probably killed for questioning it.

 

 

 

[Citadelen]

1 minute ago, Marziman said:

The should be making age appropriate porn!  What if my 4 year old son needs to take a wank?  I can't have him watching the hard core stuff no no no!  Imagine it now guys "Child porn, porn for kids!" "And Uncle Touchy with his naked puzzle basement" I can see it now, two 3 year olds putting their Thomas the train engines into a tunnel and the 4 year old going nuts.

You have left a permanent scar in my brain...

 

 

 

[Marziman]

3 minutes ago, Jahramika said:

Lol it was sarcastic and my point was young kids should be trying to have sex with each other not watching porn in the first place. 

How is this proving a statement

[Mazeman03]

6 minutes ago, Marziman said:

And you're just an uneducated atheist who thinks he's special because he chose to go against the grain. To set himself apart in some way in the hopes of being noticed or escaping your own generic-ness.  You should probably read more Richard Dawkins quotes next time. Also I'm not completely close minded, I believe in things like dinosaurs and that they're not added because the prophets knew naught of it.

well there is proof of dinosaurs so if you dont believe it well you are dumb? idk

 

unless you take a sample of bone from the dino bones and prove its plastic or another animal bone you have no reason to deny the existence of dinosaurs.

[Jahramika]

2 minutes ago, Marziman said:

The should be making age appropriate porn!  What if my 4 year old son needs to take a wank?  I can't have him watching the hard core stuff no no no!  Imagine it now guys "Child porn, porn for kids!" "And Uncle Touchy with his naked puzzle basement" I can see it now, two 3 year olds putting their Thomas the train engines into a tunnel and the 4 year old going nuts.

At one time porn, public nudity, skirt below the knees only, swearing was not accepted or allowed. thank your friendly ACLU for making prayer or God a bad thing. We are going down a slippery slope and just behind the rest of the world on that path. America was a great country because we use to believe in something greater than our self. We was a great country because we use to do the right thing while no one else was looking.

[Marziman]

4 minutes ago, Jahramika said:

At one time porn, public nudity, skirt below the knees only, swearing was not accepted or allowed. thank your friendly ACLU for making prayer or God a bad thing. We are going down a slippery slope and just behind the rest of the world on that path. America was a great country because we use to believe in something greater than our self. We was a great country because we use to do the right thing while no one else was looking.

And when other people look, it makes it a gay thing,

[Citadelen]

6 minutes ago, Jahramika said:

At one time porn, public nudity, skirt below the knees only, swearing was not accepted or allowed. thank your friendly ACLU for making prayer or God a bad thing. We are going down a slippery slope and just behind the rest of the world on that path. America was a great country because we use to believe in something greater than our self. We was a great country because we use to do the right thing while no one else was looking.

Are you trying to say people who aren't religious can't have morals?  If I'm being honest I don't think the US has ever been a great country. What do you mean "the right thing when no one else is looking"?

[deviant88]

Sex Tourism will now be..... Porn Tourism(George Carlin voice)

 

Thanks obama...

[ivan134]

this thread

[SurvivorNVL]

Just now, Citadelen said:

Are you trying to say people who aren't religious can't have morals, is I'm being honest I don't think the US has ever been a great country. What do you mean "the right thing when no one else is looking"?

I think his implication is that the U.S. has tried to mold itself more and more to be like the rest of the world.  The U.S. Left envies Europe and it's been that approach to things that has weakened the U.S. over time.  Our military spending has dropped down 40% in the last few decades, government has grown many times over since Reagan left office, and that the overall national pride and general sense of duty has depleted from American culture with time.  As for the right thing when no one else is looking - we often have come in and saved other countries, and often to our own detriment.  Germany's debt in the earlier 20th century, the assistance we gave to South Korea, our association with Ireland to defend them.  Japan for the rebuilding after we defeated them in WW2, as well as humanitarian and military aid in multiple different countries around the world.  It's sort of depleted to very little as of the last two administrations.  

I personally think we help too much, and we play world police far too often.  We could benefit from some further withdrawing to strengthen our economy and reduce our government spending.  We've got ten or so departments that need to be thinned out and over 290 government agencies with the vast majority doing little else than to satisfy budget spending.  

[ivan134]

6 minutes ago, SurvivorNVL said:

I think his implication is that the U.S. has tried to mold itself more and more to be like the rest of the world.  The U.S. Left envies Europe and it's been that approach to things that has weakened the U.S. over time.  Our military spending has dropped down 40% in the last few decades, government has grown many times over since Reagan left office, and that the overall national pride and general sense of duty has depleted from American culture with time.  As for the right thing when no one else is looking - we often have come in and saved other countries, and often to our own detriment.  Germany's debt in the earlier 20th century, the assistance we gave to South Korea, our association with Ireland to defend them.  Japan for the rebuilding after we defeated them in WW2, as well as humanitarian and military aid in multiple different countries around the world.  It's sort of depleted to very little as of the last two administrations.  

I personally think we help too much, and we play world police far too often.  We could benefit from some further withdrawing to strengthen our economy and reduce our government spending.  We've got ten or so departments that need to be thinned out and over 290 government agencies with the vast majority doing little else than to satisfy budget spending.  

You know.....I was going to ignore all the ridiculous things that different people were saying in this thread, but this is too much. The United States is weaker and should increase defense spending? The US spends more than the next 14 countries combined on defense alone. We could literally fight the whole world by ourselves.

[ivan134]

 

I overstated the 14. It was 8 in 2014, but that is still a lot. Think of what else we could be using that money for. Makes me laugh and cry when people say we can't afford basic social amenities when we throw away so much on corporate welfare and military spending.

[Citadelen]

4 minutes ago, SurvivorNVL said:

I think his implication is that the U.S. has tried to mold itself more and more to be like the rest of the world.  The U.S. Left envies Europe and it's been that approach to things that has weakened the U.S. over time.  Our military spending has dropped down 40% in the last few decades, government has grown many times over since Reagan left office, and that the overall national pride and general sense of duty has depleted from American culture with time.  As for the right thing when no one else is looking - we often have come in and saved other countries, and often to our own detriment.  Germany's debt in the earlier 20th century, the assistance we gave to South Korea, our association with Ireland to defend them.  Japan for the rebuilding after we defeated them in WW2, as well as humanitarian and military aid in multiple different countries around the world.  It's sort of depleted to very little as of the last two administrations.  

I personally think we help too much, and we play world police far too often.  We could benefit from some further withdrawing to strengthen our economy and reduce our government spending.  We've got ten or so departments that need to be thinned out and over 290 government agencies with the vast majority doing little else than to satisfy budget spending.  

What's wrong with the European left? The Scandinavian countries are doing wonderfully. People want change, selling of public companies in the UK at least has ruined then, turning them into a way to make money, instead of for the betterment of the country's citizens. Benifit cuts in the UK have seen suicide rates skyrocket for those effected. The US' military spending is ridiculous by the way.

[Trik'Stari]

36 minutes ago, Marziman said:

And you're just an uneducated atheist who thinks he's special because he chose to go against the grain. To set himself apart in some way in the hopes of being noticed or escaping your own generic-ness.  You should probably read more Richard Dawkins quotes next time. Also I'm not completely close minded, I believe in things like dinosaurs and that they're not added because the prophets knew naught of it.

The idea of a christian (or other religious person) calling an atheist "generic" is absurd. Just stop.

 

We know we are generic. It's you (and other religious people) who think the entire universe was designed as a giant test, solely for you and those that believe what you believe.

[Citadelen]

1 minute ago, Trik'Stari said:

The idea of a christian (or other religious person) calling an atheist "generic" is absurd. Just stop.

 

We know we are generic. It's you who think the entire universe was designed as a giant test, solely for you and those that believe what you believe.

That's what really gets me about religion, the belief that you are special.

[Trik'Stari]

Just now, Citadelen said:

That's what really gets me about religion, the belief that you are special.

Or the insult that you need some supreme being to judge you, or tell you right from wrong.

[Citadelen]

Just now, Trik'Stari said:

Or the insult that you need some supreme being to judge you, or tell you right from wrong.

Yeah, I know what I think is right wrong, and the notion that a god who let's be honest if he exists is a very cruel person, can judge me for something it's guilty of doesn't sit well with me.

[SurvivorNVL]

2 minutes ago, ivan134 said:

You know.....I was going to ignore all the ridiculous things that different people were saying in this thread, but this is too much. The United States is weaker and should increase defense spending? The US spends more than the next 14 countries combined on defense alone. We could literally fight the whole world by ourselves.

And our overall budget for the U.S. government, for our military spending was once 50%, and now it is down to 11%.  Our military -is- weaker than in the past, even with new technologies.  We could, in fact, wage war on the rest of the world, but we won't.  We have too much fat on our federal government as is; it needs to be seriously trimmed and the overall taxation reduced.  Our country does best, and the world does best, when the United States is the strongest, because it often  deters conflicts, especially when we use the full might of our military and not skirmishes like in our recent years.

 

 

2 minutes ago, Citadelen said:

What's wrong with the European left? The Scandinavian countries are doing wonderfully. People want change, selling of public companies in the UK at least has ruined then, turning them into a way to make money, instead of for the betterment of the country's citizens. Benifit cuts in the UK have seen suicide rates skyrocket for those effected. The US' military spending is ridiculous by the way.

The problem is the slow growth, and how much oversight it gives the government.  We've strayed far beyond our once free-market system. Now as for the Scandinavian countries, yes, they're doing fine, but again - slow growth.  The Scandinavian countries aren't doing wonderfully beyond current; having the most equal society, but they're also undergoing cultural suicide, and on top of that they've slow industries, and slow GDP growth.  In the U.S. if we continue our journey left, the higher tax-rates, the government choosing 'benefits' and to better the lives of people - all the money-makers, all the top earners, the companies / corporations will either pay for the tax-lawyers to get out of those taxes or pack up and move to low-tax havens like Singapore, Malaysia, Ireland, or even Germany.  Rates have gone higher with more socialized programs in the U.S.  It may work for a time, but it eventually crumbles.  

[ivan134]

Yea, I'm out. Back to lurking.

[Citadelen]

1 minute ago, SurvivorNVL said:

And our overall budget for the U.S. government, for our military spending was once 50%, and now it is down to 11%.  Our military -is- weaker than in the past, even with new technologies.  We could, in fact, wage war on the rest of the world, but we won't.  We have too much fat on our federal government as is; it needs to be seriously trimmed and the overall taxation reduced.  Our country does best, and the world does best, when the United States is the strongest, because it often  deters conflicts, especially when we use the full might of our military and not skirmishes like in our recent years.

 

 

The problem is the slow growth, and how much oversight it gives the government.  We've strayed far beyond our once free-market system. Now as for the Scandinavian countries, yes, they're doing fine, but again - slow growth.  The Scandinavian countries aren't doing wonderfully beyond current; having the most equal society, but they're also undergoing cultural suicide, and on top of that they've slow industries, and slow GDP growth.  In the U.S. if we continue our journey left, the higher tax-rates, the government choosing 'benefits' and to better the lives of people - all the money-makers, all the top earners, the companies / corporations will either pay for the tax-lawyers to get out of those taxes or pack up and move to low-tax havens like Singapore, Malaysia, Ireland, or even Germany.  Rates have gone higher with more socialized programs in the U.S.  It may work for a time, but it eventually crumbles.  

This is where what we believe at the core of a country matters completely differs. I believe it should be the states job to own public services, provide social benefits, to provide public health care and to closely regulate business. The country's growth shouldn't be put before the well-being of it's citizens.

[SurvivorNVL]

Just now, Citadelen said:

This is where what we believe at the core of a country matters completely differs. I believe it should be the states job to own public services, provide social benefits, to provide public health care and to closely regulate business. The country's growth shouldn't be put before the well-being of it's citizens.

That is where we differ.  For the U.S. it has traditionally been up to the citizens to provide for their own well-being and elevate toward better and healthier places in society.  The Federal government interacted with the States, and the States collected taxes from their respective citizens, and paid money in to the Federal Government which existed for Defense, and relations between States and foreign governments(As well as post-offices, some roads, and the minting of currency).  Free-business, unfettered.  Health care would be up to a business or private insurance companies, and if you didn't like one, you went to another as they'd be expected to compete which few have incentive to do as they don't have to.  They drew their lines and territories, because regulations keep smaller entities from getting in to the game.  Lobbying has contributed as well to harming competition. 

The State is - Defense, relations, patents, and a place of conversation between States on the actions of the country or direction(And other stuff as listed before). The rest is up to individual States(or supposed to be) as they are the ones that give power to the entity that is known as the Federal Government.  

All of this aside:  I really like English food.  They've some creative uses for jams.