NVIDIA’s VXAO (voxel based ambient occlusion) To Be Featured In Rise of the Tomb Raider

[Mr_Troll]

NVIDIA’s VXAO To Be Featured In Rise of the Tomb Raider
 

Yesterday, some press releases (including the one reported by Xbox Wire) mentioned that NVIDIA’s VXAO technology will be featured for the first time in Rise of the Tomb Raider for PC, due on January 28.It seems like NVIDIA didn’t really intend to publicly divulge this yet, which explains why only a few press releases had the information. Still, that doesn’t mean that we can’t speculate ahead of the official reveal.The name itself is already quite telling: we’re most assuredly talking about voxel based ambient occlusion here. We did some research and as it turns out, NVIDIA did talk about this technique a little, though it wasn’t labeled VXAO yet.Specifically, NVIDIA’s Alexey Panteleev (Developer Technology Engineer) talked about it as part of his speech on VXGI during the GPU Technology Conference 2015, held last March in Silicon Valley. You can find the full slides in PDF form here, and the video presentation here.

 

According to the slide, this technique’s tracing is approximately three times cheaper than full fledged Global Illumination.The results of SSAO are not always correct. For example, when geometry comes near the screen edge or when a far objects is close to a near object in the screen space. Voxel based ambient occlusion has no such problem.

That’s the extent of what is publicly available about this technique. Though of course, there’s the question of what happens now to HBAO+, NVIDIA’s prized ambient occlusion technique which was finally getting widespread adoption in games.

 

Great. More proprietary tech that is going to kill fps in games probably. GG

 

Source:http://wccftech.com/nvidias-vxao-to-be-featured-in-rise-of-the-tomb-raider-heres-what-we-know/

http://news.xbox.com/2016/01/05/rise-of-the-tomb-raider-coming-windows-store-january-28/

 

[Kobathor]

Everybody is going to turn it off anyways, why bother?

[SurvivorNVL]

This is wonderful(/s).  Still waiting on that Pascal news(not-/s).

[ivhyn]

Call me when they finally integrate real time GI.

[Tedol]

If it will work... but it wouldn't.... hahaahh) 

[SamTheWelshDragon]

They don't own the technology, it's just a prefab in GameWorks that they gave a fancy name to. Try not to loose sleep over it.

[ACatWithThumbs]

Call me when they finally integrate real time GI.

It is real time GI it works like Ray Tracing but instead of fine traces you use area blocks so it's less hardware intensive.

This is pretty exiting I just hope Nvidia's solution is not too hardware intensive like SVOGI in UE4 was.

Cryengine just got their own version a few months ago which barely has any performance hit:

[Prysin]

you can see it here

 

https://youtu.be/IlUxKO5zYOA?list=PLY9cZ8nX4xmnbs1Nq2tnuFexj37QnXboD&t=590

 

 

its based on Asynch compute, so it should run damn fine on AMD

[Notional]

 

you can see it here

 

https://youtu.be/IlUxKO5zYOA?list=PLY9cZ8nX4xmnbs1Nq2tnuFexj37QnXboD&t=590

 

 

its based on Asynch compute, so it should run damn fine on AMD

 

 

If it's open code, the dev can fully optimize with the help of AMD, then I have no problem with it. Especially if it's not stupidly taxing like the 64x tessellation crap that GameWorks usually presents us with.

 

On another note, Square Enix are fucking incompetent. Not only did they make an exclusive agreement with Microsoft for XBone, which renderes shitty sales. If they now got paid for including a proprietary closed tech, that skews the performance, then they really hit a new low. I really wish Crystal Dynamics, and the Deus Ex guys, could get free of SE. They are useless business men.

[Fetzie]

you can see it here

 

https://youtu.be/IlUxKO5zYOA?list=PLY9cZ8nX4xmnbs1Nq2tnuFexj37QnXboD&t=590

 

 

its based on Asynch compute, so it should run damn fine on AMD

If it is based on Asych Compute then it should run better on AMD, because AMD has hardware support for it and doesn't have to run an emulation layer to use it.

[Guest Generallee]

I still cannot differentiate between all types of ambient occlusion effects

 

All those fancy names that destroy my beloved fps

[ivhyn]

It is real time GI it works like Ray Tracing but instead of fine traces you use area blocks so it's less hardware intensive.

It's ambient occlusion based on voxels, not global illumination based on voxels. If it was any sort of global lighting solution it wouldn't be called VXAO, right?

[Prysin]

If it's open code, the dev can fully optimize with the help of AMD, then I have no problem with it. Especially if it's not stupidly taxing like the 64x tessellation crap that GameWorks usually presents us with.

 

On another note, Square Enix are fucking incompetent. Not only did they make an exclusive agreement with Microsoft for XBone, which renderes shitty sales. If they now got paid for including a proprietary closed tech, that skews the performance, then they really hit a new low. I really wish Crystal Dynamics, and the Deus Ex guys, could get free of SE. They are useless business men.

that video, is from a fagbox.... (read: Xbone)

Digital Foundry did their testing on the fagbox, so the video is based off of that

[Zah]

that video, is from a fagbox.... (read: Xbone)

Digital Foundry did their testing on the fagbox, so the video is based off of that

Can you really stop calling it that, it makes you look 12.

 

But if this performs well on both, then no one can complain about "muh gimpworks" for this.

[Prysin]

Can you really stop calling it that, it makes you look 12.

 

But if this performs well on both, then no one can complain about "muh gimpworks" for this.

and why would i stop calling it that.

 

freedom of speech mate. I aint insulting you, im insulting microsoft. And honestly, if every other OS wasnt so half arsed in comparison, i wouldnt be using windows for the life of me.

[Zah]

and why would i stop calling it that.

 

freedom of speech mate. I aint insulting you, im insulting microsoft. And honestly, if every other OS wasnt so half arsed in comparison, i wouldnt be using windows for the life of me.

I'm just saying you sound 12 when you say it.  Also FYI freedom of speech doesn't exist on privately owned forums, in the future.

[Toddwjp]

should be nice, more games should just throw in some more advance tech, even if its not that runnable at the moment it means the game will look better in the future, which always helps

[Sharkyx1]

and why would i stop calling it that.

The other guy is right, you sound ridiculous, and there isn't freedom of speech here, there is a TOS 

 

sexual remarks may be considered profane when used in certain contexts and as such we suggest avoiding them altogether.

 

 

Besides, what good does personally attacking an inanimate object do you? a peice of plastic and silicon can't really be a "fag" can it?

[Guest Kloaked]

Who's ready for that slideshow FPS amirite

[heathd]

Who's ready for that slideshow FPS amirite

I believe it's called "cinematic" fps

[Guest Kloaked]

I believe it's called "cinematic" fps

 

Finally I can get a superior experience on PC.

[RZeroX]

and why would i stop calling it that.

 

freedom of speech mate. I aint insulting you, im insulting microsoft. And honestly, if every other OS wasnt so half arsed in comparison, i wouldnt be using windows for the life of me.

[patrickjp93]

If it is based on Asych Compute then it should run better on AMD, because AMD has hardware support for it and doesn't have to run an emulation layer to use it.

 

Funny because the AOTS benchmarks say Nvidia still does it better anyways.

[Guest Kloaked]

Funny because the AOTS benchmarks say Nvidia still does it better anyways.

 

nnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

 

here we go

[Sauron]

I still don't think the difference is worth losing half my framerate or having to lower my resolution.