Raven's Cry Developer says "Anything above 30FPS does not matter for the gaming experience"

[That Norwegian Guy]

Do you people excercise no source critique?

 

1. If a positor of opinion is an idiot

2. Is well-known for being an idiot

3. Literally showed with their lack of professionalism how irrelevant their opinion/ viewpoint is:

 

You don't quote them!

 

Stop making stupid people famous!

 

learn something from the whole Derek Smart vs. Star Citizen clusterfuck.

 

If Uwe Boll comes out and says George Lucas is a hack, no news paper will quote him because he is a well-known industry tosspot. (Uwe Boll, that is) The Escapist chose to quote Derek Smart (well known industry tosspot) and made their already deep grave even deeper for some short sighted clicks.

 

NOBODY CARES WHAT THE DEVELOPER OF WORST GAME OF 2015 HAS TO OFFER IN TERMS OF OPINIONS ON GAMING.

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[Dabombinable]

Do you people excercise no source critique?

 

1. If a positor of opinion is an idiot

2. Is well-known for being an idiot

3. Literally showed with their lack of professionalism how irrelevant their opinion/ viewpoint is:

 

You don't quote them!

 

Stop making stupid people famous!

 

learn something from the whole Derek Smart vs. Star Citizen clusterfuck.

 

If Uwe Boll comes out and says George Lucas is a hack, no news paper will quote him because he is a well-known industry tosspot. (Uwe Boll, that is) The Escapist chose to quote Derek Smart (well known industry tosspot) and made their already deep grave even deeper for some short sighted clicks.

 

NOBODY CARES WHAT THE DEVELOPER OF WORST GAME OF 2015 HAS TO OFFER IN TERMS OF OPINIONS ON GAMING.

Look, what they said pretty much backs up the 'tards at the European EA (Ubisoft), so BS about 30fps should be called out.

[Misanthrope]

Do you people excercise no source critique?

 

1. If a positor of opinion is an idiot

2. Is well-known for being an idiot

3. Literally showed with their lack of professionalism how irrelevant their opinion/ viewpoint is:

 

You don't quote them!

 

Stop making stupid people famous!

 

learn something from the whole Derek Smart vs. Star Citizen clusterfuck.

 

If Uwe Boll comes out and says George Lucas is a hack, no news paper will quote him because he is a well-known industry tosspot. (Uwe Boll, that is) The Escapist chose to quote Derek Smart (well known industry tosspot) and made their already deep grave even deeper for some short sighted clicks.

 

NOBODY CARES WHAT THE DEVELOPER OF WORST GAME OF 2015 HAS TO OFFER IN TERMS OF OPINIONS ON GAMING.

 

Wait they developed that stupid batman game?

 

[patrickjp93]

Part of me hates, and part of me loves, to be that guy, but seriously?! More fps means more room for proper effects and better realism, period. Optimization is NOT THAT HARD!!'

[Mattb6288]

I much prefer 60 fps over 30. there is a noticable choppiness if my games drop from 60 to 30. If a game runs at only 30 fps I feel like the hardware is just barely chugging along to keep things running. imo it almost never creates a "cinematic experience". I would rather play at 60 fps and get occasional dips to 30-40 than a constant 30.

[byalexandr]

I can't even play at 60 FPS anymore, anything lower than 80 FPS is laggy.

[Dabombinable]

I can't even play at 60 FPS anymore, anything lower than 80 FPS is laggy.

For me its a choice between 1024x768, 85Hz, IPS monitor, or 1080p, 60Hz (possible of 74Hz though it glitches after a few hours due to heat), TN panel screen. And its difficult to choose most of the time.

 

[byalexandr]

For me its a choice between 1024x768, 85Hz, IPS monitor, or 1080p, 60Hz (possible of 74Hz though it glitches after a few hours due to heat), TN panel screen. And its difficult to choose most of the time.

1080p 144Hz for me. I can't see the difference between 80FPS and 144FPS but as soon as it drops to even 70 FPS, it's laggy.

[Dabombinable]

1080p 144Hz for me. I can't see the difference between 80FPS and 144FPS but as soon as it drops to even 70 FPS, it's laggy.

I can't justify another upgrade like that as I only went from the monitor to the screen at the start of 2014.

[Prysin]

Look, what they said pretty much backs up the 'tards at the European EA (Ubisoft), so BS about 30fps should be called out.

oh please, ubishit, in terms of games, they wouldnt know the difference between 3.0 FPS and 30.0 FPS..... Aslong as they make money.

I can agree that 60 FPS is better. But people are being idiots if they think a game is broken for sticking with 30 FPS....

[Dabombinable]

oh please, ubishit, in terms of games, they wouldnt know the difference between 3.0 FPS and 30.0 FPS..... Aslong as they make money.

I can agree that 60 FPS is better. But people are being idiots if they think a game is broken for sticking with 30 FPS....

Its broken when it runs at 30fps at 1080p with even high end graphics cards such as the 980ti and TitanX. And even the GTX 970 and GTX 980.

[Rohith_Kumar_Sp]

 Where did he say that? I didn't see it in the news post, and it seems to be a direct retraction of his previous statements. But it is still flawed. What does "sufficient" mean? For something as subjective as this, it is practically impossible to draw a line in the sand and declare it "sufficient." Everyone's experience is going to be different.

 

well, if you followed the source i provided, you'd have known 

[Shakaza]

well, if you followed the source i provided, you'd have known 

Well, yeah, I figured, but it's irrelevant at this point. I think the discussion is more or less over and I have practically ceased caring about what a foolish developer has to say. 

[rashdanml]

And some fun damage control

More like clarification.

 

For an FPS, high frame rates matter for that extra level of detail, and that is helpful in a competitive environment. For a single-player RPG with no competitive elements? Completely unnecessary. Few games are fast-paced enough to require the extra level of detail from high frame rates. Gamers wanting all games to support high frame rates is nothing short of e-peen stroking. 

[Dabombinable]

More like clarification.

 

For an FPS, high frame rates matter for that extra level of detail, and that is helpful in a competitive environment. For a single-player RPG with no competitive elements? Completely unnecessary. Few games are fast-paced enough to require the extra level of detail from high frame rates. Gamers wanting all games to support high frame rates is nothing short of e-peen stroking. 

^Never played a game at more than 30fps.

[Rohith_Kumar_Sp]

For an FPS, high frame rates matter for that extra level of detail, and that is helpful in a competitive environment. For a single-player RPG with no competitive elements? Completely unnecessary. Few games are fast-paced enough to require the extra level of detail from high frame rates. Gamers wanting all games to support high frame rates is nothing short of e-peen stroking. 

i'd still be moving my camera and character via mouse/Key, it's not all how it looks but how it feels playing 30 vs 60 

[Misanthrope]

More like clarification.

 

For an FPS, high frame rates matter for that extra level of detail, and that is helpful in a competitive environment. For a single-player RPG with no competitive elements? Completely unnecessary. Few games are fast-paced enough to require the extra level of detail from high frame rates. Gamers wanting all games to support high frame rates is nothing short of e-peen stroking. 

 

I'm just not gonna argue with this nonsense anymore and will keep posting this picture:

 

A game, any fucking game almost, it's NOT a movie. It gives control of the camera and henceforth the action to the player. So as long as there's moving fucking images the player controls (i.e. 99% of all fucking games today, including this pile of shit) People will like interacting with 60 FPS more if given the option. All others are just kidding themselves if they claim it doesn't makes a difference: there's a real, tangible, verifiable, empirical difference here and that is more FPS = more good. It simply reacts to your actions faster and more accurately. 

[Tomsen]

30FPS ought to be enough for anybody!  Limiting FPS to 30, does not give much of a headroom for FPS drops.

[Misanthrope]

30FPS ought to be enough for anybody!  Limiting FPS to 30, does not give much of a headroom for FPS drops.

 

That's another good point: 30 FPS as a target means any kind of city area, explosion, intensive lighting effect with multiple sources, etc. Will turn everything into 15 FPS slide show jumping clown up there. So you might get 30 FPS...on a remote area....out of combat....while staring at the floor....

[TechStyle]

That 30fps GIF doesn't look to bad tbh. 

[Dabombinable]

That's another good point: 30 FPS as a target means any kind of city area, explosion, intensive lighting effect with multiple sources, etc. Will turn everything into 15 FPS slide show jumping clown up there. So you might get 30 FPS...on a remote area....out of combat....while staring at the floor....

*sigh* Mechassault 2 Lone Wolf on the Original Xbox. fps drops like that first occur during the mission where you investigate the crashed dropship early on in the game. Gimme my emulator, or an Xbox with upgraded RAM and a 1.4GHz PIII.

[SansVarnic]

Idiots.

As for the car analogy; Let the developer die, It would be better for the rest of Humanity the gaming community.

[Rohith_Kumar_Sp]

That 30fps GIF doesn't look to bad tbh. 

it was never about how it looks, never.

[QueenDemetria]

I've yet to see a game or game type that sees zero benefit from higher framrates(by higher I mean anything above 30 FPS). To me, smoother is always better(even something as little as the stick person gif in the OP).

[CyanideInsanity]

I've yet to see a game or game type that sees zero benefit from higher framrates(by higher I mean anything above 30 FPS). To me, smoother is always better(even something as little as the stick person gif in the OP).

Indeed. While I certainly notice the low rate on undertale, a 2d rpg isn't terrible at 30. That said I sure prefer having the stick of truth running at 60+ fps.

Though once you enter that 3rd dimension and have camera control its a whole different story, but even then depends. If its view is mouse driven I'm not taking less than 60, but if I'll be using a controller 45 is where I draw the line. Unfortunately if a game supports 45, it probably supports 60 so is useless. The difference between 30 and 45 is the difference between stutter and smooth motion for me.