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Okay so we all know AMD isn't what it use to be. There cpus are buried by the new Intel chips and there GPUs can at best keep up with Nvidias. With all the launch of the fury x and it running only 4gb I think AMD is in serious trouble. Yeah they are still gonna be around for at least 5 more years but I really am worried that they are dying a very slow death. At this point in time I can't see AMD living for another 10 years. It seems as if Zen is pretty much a make or break product. If it fails I think they're done. What are your thoughts? Can they survive if Zen fails to perform?

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Their GPUs will not let them die.

 

And Zen is coming too.

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From my standpoint, if they are to survive, they're going to need another company to buy them out.

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From my standpoint, if they are to survive, they're going to need another company to buy them out.

This is what I was gonna say.

Theyre not just gonna "die out", someones gonna take them over if it gets to that point, which I dont think it will happen as soon as some people are making it out to be,

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I reckon the GPU/CPU divisions are going to split, the GPU/ATI division will keep going on it's own or be adopted by another company; the CPU division will probably merge with Samsung or something. Let's face it, they're struggling to produce new CPUs to keep up with Intel, they almost don't even have enough money to fund R&D. 

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Don't worry if zen can kick intel's ass

and the next gen of fury gets more VRAM

Then AMD will get back up keeping nVidia and intel on their toes

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Look at their stock prices. 5 years from now they will not be around as-is. Samsung or somebody needs to buy them if they're to survive.

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nah........

They have very little money at this point while trying to produce CPUs, APUs, and GPUs(Yes, I know they don't do the actual producing but it still costs money). If they hadn't screwed up with Bulldozer, their current situation could've been completely different. At this point, someone needs to buy them out.

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They have very little money at this point while trying to produce CPUs, APUs, and GPUs(Yes, I know they don't do the actual producing but it still costs money). If they hadn't screwed up with Bulldozer, their current situation could've been completely different. At this point, someone needs to buy them out.

but u dont know if zen is the dealbreaker or not. or the "new" greenland gpu's (maybe a refresh no one knoes :P)

if this all fails then maybe just maybe somone might buy them... other than that. I dont see them failing

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but u dont know if zen is the dealbreaker or not. or the "new" greenland gpu's (maybe a refresh no one knoes :P)

if this all fails then maybe just maybe somone might buy them... other than that. I dont see them failing

Considering Bulldozer was lackluster, Vishera was lackluster, and Fury X was hyped up and didn't really deliver, I'm not convinced of Zen being anything amazing.

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nah........

you're too positive about AMD's failures. They can't keep failing to progress forever (it's been too long for them to bounce back in a hurry).

 

But I'm glad to see you're in agreement that AMD just isn't good enough, what with your intel processor

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you're too positive about AMD's failures. They can't keep failing to progress forever (it's been too long for them to bounce back in a hurry).

 

But I'm glad to see you're in agreement that AMD just isn't good enough, what with your intel processor

whats with you having biases opinions over certain brands.

is it not allowded for my to be defending AMD but to have a intel CPU? lol 

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CPU= Crap

GPU= Are doing really good now, beating every Nvidia GPU atbthe same price point except Fury X vs 980Ti.

Maybe APUs? Only ever seen half a dozen people,build a PC with one,on the forums. Most are in prebuilts.

Remember AMDs Artic GPU series? :) but in all,seriousness a company needs to buy them. I'd like IBM to,buy them but that won't happen.

 

 

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But are they really making any money off the consoles? Its pretty well known that the console manufacturer dont make much money on them, I believe they just break even and then make the money back through the sale of games and peripherals. I built my first comp when I was 13, it rocked a AMD Athlon, and Im 25 now. Those were the good old days lol.

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