Samsung Note 5 to have a 4k display with a record-breaking 748PPI (and 762 for the Edge variant)

[Nineshadow]

Samsung confirmed in its Analyst Days presentation slides a while ago that it has a Ultra HD 2160 x 3840 pixels Super AMOLED displays for mobile in the works for 2015, as you can see above. Also, at a Semiconductor and Display Technology Roadmap workshop last year, Samsung presenters hinted again at having higher-resolution UHD smartphone displays in the pipeline. These resolutions, however, were mentioned then together with the "diamond pixel" term, which is a fancy way to say a non-standard pixel matrix arrangement, that is closer to PenTile, than the standard RGB stripe matrix. In any case, at 700+ ppi, nobody would notice the individual pixels anyway.

 

Furthermore, we received a word that Samsung will be putting those UHD Super AMOLED panels in none other than the Galaxy Note 5, and will start the displays' production in August, which would jibe with an eventual September announcement around the IFA 2015 expo. The exact diagonals are said to be 5.78" for the inevitable dual edge Note 5, and 5.89 inches for the regular, flat display version. These return exactly 762ppi and 748ppi, respectively, or the highest pixel densities ever attempted on a phone, if this Note 5 speculation pans out. The more, the merrier.

 

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Don't know what to say honestly. Do we need 4K on phones? Probably not...but hey, the more pixels the better I guess.What about battery life? And what about performance? Will I have to run games upscaled from 1080p to 4k?We shall see.

It will be very good for their VR thingy though.

[Glenwing]

[ShadowCaptain]

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

 

Nobody.. I repeat, nobody in the latest generation of smartphones has complained that their screen was not sharp enough, I mean fuck the iPhone display is like the least highest PPI these days and its still a gorgeous display... Sure if there are NO other complaints, improve the screen.. BUT

 

Instead we tons of things to complain about that need fixing FIRST before adding more pixels ---

Battery life, camera quality/features, build quality, speaker quality, OS and UI, software, performance, poor button placement, lack of waterproofing, useage of cheap materials, lack of expandable storage/good built in storage options,  

 

well and many more things that could make phones better

 

instead of wasting time fitting a big screen. which... yes, reduced battery life and drags performance down

 

well fucking done samsung

[mvitkun]

I think the Snapdragon and Exynos lines of SoCs will struggle to drive the 4K display.

And if they somehow manage a smooth experience the battery life will still plummet.

It was difficult to retain battery life with less than double the pixels of 1080p (WQHD)........so lets make it impossible by quadrupling the pixels.

Best.Plan.Ever.

[blu4]

Gosh.. If my 1440p display on a 6 inch screen was sharper!! Ughhh!!!

[Syntaxvgm]

<<Yes, I guess phone displays from before are like 100x50, right? 

[qwertywarrior]

YES finally

wohoo for HMD VR

[Glenwing]

Smaller pixels means faster degradation. Samsung's past OLED screens already have color balance and burn-in issues.

More pixels means faster power drain. They already had heat and battery life concerns at 1080p.

Are these idiots TRYING to give OLED a bad name?

[cesrai]

Guys I know it's pointless but keep in mind they have Gear VR which would benefit from higher resolution display.

[Nineshadow]

Smaller pixels means faster degradation. Samsung's past OLED screens already have color balance and burn-in issues.

More pixels means faster power drain. They already had heat and battery life concerns at 1080p.

Are these idiots TRYING to give OLED a bad name?

Damn. Almost forgot about the burn-in issues.

That's a real thing :l.Had it on my old S3.

However, it's not THAT noticeable. You can see it if you want to see it, but there were times when I didn't.

If a 720p display had small burn-in issues, what about 4k?That's...a lot more pixels.

[Syntaxvgm]

Smaller pixels means faster degradation. Samsung's past OLED screens already have color balance and burn-in issues.

More pixels means faster power drain. They already had heat and battery life concerns at 1080p.

Are these idiots TRYING to give OLED a bad name?

not to mention they don't seal them right, so anything that's been used for a while (display models even) is noticeably dimmer, due to the way oxygen reacts with OLED or something I don't remember the exact process of

[HellaflushMcSwaggins]

This is fucking stupid.I understand they wanna "kill the game", but their user interface sucks, their designs are ugly and the camera is meh.Also, what the hell were they thinking when they made this shit?

First, the size of the panel itself, 5.89 inches is TOO DAMN BIG and that resolution IS  going to kill the battery life, unless they use some kind of magic unicorn farts to power it, or make it thick as hell and put a 6000mAh battery inside it. All the apps and games will be upscaled from 1080p to 4k, as if 1440p wasn't enough. 

I can't even see the damn pixels on my G3, and 1440p is overkill for a phone.

Also, they would need a powerhouse to power that display and a lot of ram/video memory.

They should make their shitty UI better and get rid of all the shitty bloatware they put on their phones/Make some designs that are actually inovative/improve the camera capabilities/BETTER SPEAKERS/and the fucking BUTTON PLACEMENT(!) that is stupid(have you seen the note edge? that shit has the power button on the top of the device,they could have put it on, i don't know, the left side!?! ).

anyway, fuck samsung

[Dabombinable]

Smaller pixels means faster degradation. Samsung's past OLED screens already have color balance and burn-in issues.

More pixels means faster power drain. They already had heat and battery life concerns at 1080p.

Are these idiots TRYING to give OLED a bad name?

Lets hope they just give their phones a bad name, not the technology behind the screen. Other manufacturers don't have any issues yet, do they? (also AMOLED kind of separates their screens from other OLED screens-even though they are effectively the same).

[mvitkun]

Guys I know it's pointless but keep in mind they have Gear VR which would benefit from higher resolution display.

HTC's Vive uses two 1080x1200 panels.

Oculus' Rift, the Crescent Bay one, has a 2560x1440p panel.

And even if that is their plan it won't work because there's zero chance that a Snapdragon or Exynos processor can drive anything worth doing in VR in 4K at an appropriate frame rate.

[HellaflushMcSwaggins]

And even if that is their plan it won't work because there's zero chance that a Snapdragon or Exynos processor can drive anything worth doing in VR in 4K at an appropriate frame rate.

That wouldn't even work as a wired VR headset(you connect it to your pc to use as a VR headset, like the oculus or OSVR) even if they made some software for it to work like that(even though it would be cool)

[Brughc]

And even if that is their plan it won't work because there's zero chance that a Snapdragon or Exynos processor can drive anything worth doing in VR in 4K at an appropriate frame rate.

 

The Samsung gear is made for the Note series so basically they have to make it work somehow. Or they are already pulling the plug on gear vr which I don't think their doing.

[duriel]

dick measuring contest

 

i guess it's "okay" if considering the VR aspect.. and even then...

 

otherwise completely useless.

[Lazmarr]

I think the Snapdragon and Exynos lines of processors will struggle to drive the 4K display.

And if they somehow manage a smooth experience the battery life will still plummet.

It was difficult to retain battery life with less than double the pixels of 1080p (WQHD)........so lets make it impossible by quadrupling the pixels.

Best.Plan.Ever.

Isn't samsung using its own in-house designed processors lately though?

[Glenwing]

Lets hope they just give their phones a bad name, not the technology behind the screen. Other manufacturers don't have any issues yet, do they? (also AMOLED kind of separates their screens from other OLED screens-even though they are effectively the same).

Yeah. For the first time I'm almost glad they used a fancy nonsense name instead of just calling it OLED.

[jaggysnake57]

i guess we really should be looking towards the positives really 4k an a screen that small is a impressive and, as has been mentioned here, has application in the vr headsets down the line....but for a phone its overkill

[Snickerzz]

 

 

 

 

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So what's the battery life going to be? Probably 5 hours on-screen time...

[Dabombinable]

 

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So what's the battery life going to be? Probably 5 hours on-screen time...

Oh come on, words aren't really needed to describe Samsung's idiocy.

[Thought]

I don't think even someone with absolutely perfect vision can make use of that really. I'm all for innovation but battery life is much more important than even clearer screens.

[LAwLz]

Smaller pixels means faster degradation. Samsung's past OLED screens already have color balance and burn-in issues.

More pixels means faster power drain. They already had heat and battery life concerns at 1080p.

Are these idiots TRYING to give OLED a bad name?

[Citation Needed] on OLED pixels having a shorter lifespan when they are smaller.

Are you sure it uses more power and generates more heat as well? It is not like with an LCD where you have to increase the backlight strength. The smaller pixels you got in an OLED display the less power each pixel uses.

 

 

As for the resolution, please bear in mind that blue and red will only have a PPI of ~539. That's the same as the LG G3 and Oppo Find 7. So if the Note 5 has that resolution, then it will match those two phones in terms of PPI, which I don't think is that ridiculous.

Samsung are also in the VR game now, and for that there are benefits.

On top of that, please bear in mind that even without the lenses in VR headsets, your average Joe can still see a difference all the way to ~870 PPI. That's someone with average vision. Half of us got even better vision than that.

 

 

So no, it is not unnecessary at all. But with all that being said, I still think it's a bad move by Samsung. I think we should stay at 2560x1440 until SoCs and battery technology catches up a bit.

I just think people should hate on it for the right reasons. "We can't see it" and "there is no point" are the wrong reasons.

[RedRound2]

On top of that, please bear in mind that even without the lenses in VR headsets, your average Joe can still see a difference all the way to ~870 PPI. That's someone with average vision. Half of us got even better vision than that.

 

 

I don't wear glasses and I can see things pretty clearly, but for some reason I cant possibly see the difference between 1080p and 1440p on a phone as so does every single reviewers out there