Perfectly Functional GTX 970 Cards Being Returned Over Memory Controversy

[zappian]

But they aren't 1.5GB are they. So this is moot.

 

IM providing an example.

 

If that happened to my card i would return it.

 

Plain and simple.

 

Its an hypothetical scenario.

[Majestic]

They don't provide any numbers though, so this could just aswell be clickbaiting or exaggerating.

For example, I sent mine back because of a broken display port. They say it's fine, does that add up to the equation?

[zappian]

I would not return a 970 if i had one since 3.5 GB is enough for the common resolutions.

I would OC it like hell and enjoy it.

 

Unless i wanted to game at 4k.

[Brainless906]

It could be the fastest card ever made and cost $1, I still am not OK with being lied to. If people want to return it because of that, I'm fine with it.

 

This.

All of this. 

People keep saying its not a big deal and its fine cause the card preforms well enough, trying to completely ignore the shady bullshit they tried to pull.

[Suika]

While it's still a great card, they still lied about the ROP count and the L2 cache size (The VRAM is physically there, just the last 0.5GB is slow)

I can understand the anger of those that returned it

The ROP count and L2 cache is still there, too, except they're disabled. This is why GPU-Z still shows the ROPs. They're there, but GPU-Z doesn't see they're inactive.

Those who are angered and are returning the cards do it simply because they expect something out of it. Not because the card is terrible, not because of false advertising, but because they expect something for free, one way or another.

I wouldn't doubt that some of the intentions are to double dip. Users buy the card and get a free game offered as a promo, then are returning it and keeping the game to buy an R9 290X with a similar promo.

[miyabwah]

I wouldn't be surprised it people ended up selling 970s for less because they didn't live up to the 4 GB specification.

[Victorious Secret]

This.

All of this. 

People keep saying its not a big deal and its fine cause the card preforms well enough, trying to completely ignore the shady bullshit they tried to pull.

 

Sorry that people aren't getting their panties in a bunch over what a GPU maker did to violate my freedoms. 

Don't mistake our apathy for not caring. We don't like that Nvidia lied. We do like that the card performs well. A grownup could rationalize the two viewpoints at the same time and not get into childish fits about it.

Theres way more important stuff in a lot of our lives than what Nvidia just did. If it bothers people so much, shut up, return your cards, don't buy from Nvidia again. Stop talking about it and do something. The hallmark problem of the internet age. Lots of yapping, not a lot of doing. 

[Archangel1994]

The ROP count and L2 cache is still there, too, except they're disabled. This is why GPU-Z still shows the ROPs. They're there, but GPU-Z doesn't see they're inactive.

Which is practically the same as it not being there and if this is their reasoning then it's 100% bullshit.

 

They don't advertise 2048 cuda cores either but 1664 instead, they are there but just disabled.

[pcexplosion]

Time to check craigslist.

[Yoinkerman]

We have consumer protection laws for a reason. They're written in blood. We shouldn't dismiss them so lightly because people disagree with this case.

[combine1237]

The thing is it would probably have sold pretty good @ 300 USD still even if it only had 3.5 gb of vram from the get go.

[Brainless906]

Sorry that people aren't getting their panties in a bunch over what a GPU maker did to violate my freedoms. 

Don't mistake our apathy for not caring. We don't like that Nvidia lied. We do like that the card performs well. A grownup could rationalize the two viewpoints at the same time and not get into childish fits about it.

Theres way more important stuff in a lot of our lives than what Nvidia just did. If it bothers people so much, shut up, return your cards, don't buy from Nvidia again. Stop talking about it and do something. The hallmark problem of the internet age. Lots of yapping, not a lot of doing. 

 

Right, real grownups dont care about this and anyone showing concern is an immature child.

Got it. Kindly take your pompous ass elsewhere

[Tiber1337]

I would like to see the numbers of people who returned the card for that specific reason, I somehow doubt there are that many

[Poohy14]

I would still buy the GTX 970 since it still performs well and that has been proven. All I am doing use using 1080p and its not like the RAM on that GPU will max out at 3.5GB at that resolution. I am only using a 2GB card and only used 1.5GB max on every game I played. Don't know why people are freaking out so bad. It happens that different divisions in companies don't talk to each other about everything, seen it happen in the Electrical field here and there where a company changes something in a division for a product and doesn't tell anyone else and people expect that product to work with their other products.

[zanduh]

My take on this;

 

 

Consumers that are well within their right choose to return a product on the merit that the company wasn't completely honest about the product. And you call that sheep? Are you purposefully stupid or did you never learn what those fandangled internet words actually mean?

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

IM providing an example.

 

If that happened to my card i would return it.

 

Plain and simple.

 

Its an hypothetical scenario.

 

Yes but it has no relation, I mean. This card is 4gb. It's useless to keep repeating that...

[zappian]

Yes but it has no relation, I mean. This card is 4gb. It's useless to keep repeating that...

 

I guess , sorry you didnt like my example

[Victorious Secret]

Right, real grownups dont care about this and anyone showing concern is an immature child.

Got it. Kindly take your pompous ass elsewhere

 

Wow, where did you get "grown ups don't care"? 

I said, grown ups can reconcile two viewpoints. They can be upset on one aspect, happy with the other. Life isn't black and white, its infinite shades of grey. A 970 owner could be angry that they don't have the card that was advertised but they can be satisfied that the card still performs like a champ. So what are they going to do? They'll do nothing, since getting angry about it and trying to get rid of the card doesn't outweigh the benefits of keeping it, for most owners. Some owners might be the opposite, and find that returning it is better. 

Kindly learn some reading comprehension and critical thinking, and we can continue this discussion. 

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

I guess , sorry you didnt like my example

 

It's a great example, but not for this situation.

[zappian]

It's a great example, but not for this situation.

 

I was trying to give an example i could relate with i guess.

[MoonSpot]

Well this certainly gives people the opportunity to go the freesync route with an R9 290 and pocket the $100-150 cash money for another day.

[Thony]

My take on this;

Sheep in front only have 3.5gb VRAM on them, but sheep at the back have 4gb.

Very good visual interpretation

[soup]

Maybe the price of the cards will drop.

I'm hoping that too , but feel there are that many who are perfectly willing to accept the card is just as good as it was only now it is advertised with different numbers and so the second hand market for U.I.B 970s will be very hot and so the cards will not be that cheap.

[zappian]

Sheep in front only have 3.5gb VRAM on them, but sheep at the back have 4gb.

Very good visual interpretation

 

LOOOL.

[rashdanml]

3.5GB of VRAM is still plenty for people who don't care about their resolution and framerate e-peen. 

Nvidia didn't lie about the VRAM - it's there on the card. 0.5GB of it being slower isn't a dealbreaker. The only time you'd ever need more than 3GB is for 4K gaming and multi-monitor, which is a pretty niche area within the gaming community.