Apple releases cheaper iMac

[ttam]

Actually, it indirectly affects me. Voting with your wallet works, and I am strongly against a lot of the things Apple does.

For example the money people spend on Apple products gets pumped into unjustified lawsuits which hinders the evolution of technology.

These companies don't care about us. It's just money to them.

[Tordal]

I've had one Macbook Pro and two similar priced windows laptops (Acer and HP), and I can honestly say that the MBP has been extremely good. It's hands down the best laptop I've ever tried.

At the moment it's all Windows (and Android) in my house, but I wouldn't mind going back to Mac once I become a parent and don't have time to game a lot. The iMac looks stunning, so you can easily have it as a stylish "accessory" in the corner of your living room.

What I think of the new iMac? If you're looking for an all in one then it's pretty compelling compared to the alternatives.

[Toxic Venom]

Macs are extremely well built, come with an AMAZING warranty, and one of the best customer service departments i've ever had to deal with. Most apple products are priced very well for what you get. That's a fact.

Good customer service - true

Well built - true

Price for what you get - oh hell no, they are way way way way to overpriced for what you get, the only product i find reasonably priced well for what your getting is the new Mac Pro the specs and formfactor customizability, power makes it really worth the price IMO. For the other products i would definitely have to say hell no, you can get 10x better laptops for the same price, like the MacBook Air one version still nearlly costs 1000 dollars and only has bloody 128gb of storage wtf! 1000 dollars to use that storage up in like 6 months BS And tons of stuff like that, you are literally just paying for the name 'apple' seriously their specs are shit compared to the same priced laptops from competitors.

[ShadowCaptain]

So I read up to page 9 and then gave up, so hear are my thoughts

 

Let me preface this by saying I worked in computer retail for nearly 8 years, and became Apple specialist in store (I do not and never have worked for apple, I was just in charge of the department in store)

 

I would say, that 70% of customers buying iMacs from me, were 60+ couples/retired people, families with young children, businesses looking for computers for their office workers/receptionists, and people that want something stylish beautiful and easy and are not hardcore computer users. I would say another 20% were people interested in  a high end computer, capable of handling some photo and video editing, office work and a few app store games. The remaining 10% were Pros looking at a macs for 3d design/video production etc, ofteing brining in their 5ds and stuff to try out on the mac.

 

Now, based on that rough number 70% of the people purchasing an iMac would be 100% happy with the specs of the cheap mac. They like the look and design of the hardware with its lovely ips display and small footprint, they love that the whole machine runs off 1 cable and only 1 cable, that it comes with a cool touch mouse and wireless keyboard, has a very good built in camera and that OSX is powerful, easy to use, and integrates perfectly with their iPhone and iPad that they also love, (most new mac users had experianced ipad and iphone, loved the experiance and wish their PC worked a similar way)

 

Price aside, the low priced iMac is a perfect computer for these people, it is great on the desk, looks amazing, takes up little space, requires few cables, works out the box in 30 seconds with very little set up, includes a full office suite, full photo, video and music editing software and is great for the family.

 

For those that demand performance then they can choose a retina pro/high spec imac/mac pro

 

Sure apple demand a high price, but for what you get it isnt THAT bad, Personally I think it should be maybe another £100 cheaper, that would really be a sweeeeet as machine for that

 

These people happily spend up to £639 on an iPad air, and up to £709 on their iphone, for a like £200-300 more they can get an iMac, to these people it is a GREAT deal,

 

That is how to look at it, these people would NEVER build a pc, never bother upgrading, and love the support, easy nature and design of the product.

 

Leave them to spend their money on what they like. Just like I could buy something like a Ford Focus RS which is faster than the car I have for less money, but I wanted the quality, design and feeling of my Audi

[Carpenoctem]

So I read up to page 9 and then gave up, so hear are my thoughts

 

Let me preface this by saying I worked in computer retail for nearly 8 years, and became Apple specialist in store (I do not and never have worked for apple, I was just in charge of the department in store)

 

I would say, that 70% of customers buying iMacs from me, were 60+ couples/retired people, families with young children, businesses looking for computers for their office workers/receptionists, and people that want something stylish beautiful and easy and are not hardcore computer users. I would say another 20% were people interested in  a high end computer, capable of handling some photo and video editing, office work and a few app store games. The remaining 10% were Pros looking at a macs for 3d design/video production etc, ofteing brining in their 5ds and stuff to try out on the mac.

 

Now, based on that rough number 70% of the people purchasing an iMac would be 100% happy with the specs of the cheap mac. They like the look and design of the hardware with its lovely ips display and small footprint, they love that the whole machine runs off 1 cable and only 1 cable, that it comes with a cool touch mouse and wireless keyboard, has a very good built in camera and that OSX is powerful, easy to use, and integrates perfectly with their iPhone and iPad that they also love, (most new mac users had experianced ipad and iphone, loved the experiance and wish their PC worked a similar way)

 

Price aside, the low priced iMac is a perfect computer for these people, it is great on the desk, looks amazing, takes up little space, requires few cables, works out the box in 30 seconds with very little set up, includes a full office suite, full photo, video and music editing software and is great for the family.

 

For those that demand performance then they can choose a retina pro/high spec imac/mac pro

 

Sure apple demand a high price, but for what you get it isnt THAT bad, Personally I think it should be maybe another £100 cheaper, that would really be a sweeeeet as machine for that

 

These people happily spend up to £639 on an iPad air, and up to £709 on their iphone, for a like £200-300 more they can get an iMac, to these people it is a GREAT deal,

 

That is how to look at it, these people would NEVER build a pc, never bother upgrading, and love the support, easy nature and design of the product.

 

Leave them to spend their money on what they like. Just like I could buy something like a Ford Focus RS which is faster than the car I have for less money, but I wanted the quality, design and feeling of my Audi

 

Well explained.

 

Some people have just the arrogance to believe that what they like is how the world should be. Pretty sad sometimes.

[ShadowCaptain]

Well explained.

 

Some people have just the arrogance to believe that what they like is how the world should be. Pretty sad sometimes.

 

Thankyou for taking your time to read my long post haha (and to anyone else that did)

 

Computer enthusiast need to realise they are in the minority just as Apple desktop users are too. Sure I wish the iMac had a 6core i7 and dual 780tis, and cost £1000 but it never will, and most customers would not even notice. So what is apples incentive to do this? Pretty much none, they are still only appealing to a minority audience. They want their computers to appeal to the average family who do no go building and buying watercooled gaming rigs.

[klotza1]

What a load.

 

A bunch of cheap BS wrapped in aluminum for over a grand. Way to shit on customers everywhere. NEWS FLASH, you can still innovate and progress a market without gouging customers. Its almost insulting that they went with that price point. Like they know the only people dumb enough to buy it aren't concerned with money anyway. Funny how that works. 

 

Where are you when we need you STEVE JOBS!

 

 

|RIP|

[Fetzie]

Haters at it again. Sure, I would never buy an iMac myself, either. It's stupid to try and compare an iMac to a gaming PC. If you are not a gamer and just need something compact that works, then iMacs probably make better sense.

 

If you aren't a gamer, and just want something relatively idiot proof for browsing the internet, watching youtube and email correspondence, save yourself 800 bucks and get a Chromebook.

[BaconMan]

So a very large highly regarded engineering company I visited once ran their entire business off iMacs, every single person, cad designers, accounts, receptionist whoever they all had them. I bought a MacBook pro, best decision ever I love it, re sell value on a Macintosh is insane, my friend has almost a 10 year old Apple laptop, runs honestly just as good as the day he bought it, when he chooses to sell it will still be worth actual money, this iMac would be amazing for my school, kiting out classrooms with them would be far cheaper, they will do everything that is required of them, light photo and video editing just fine and will still maintain there value throughout there lifecycle.

[Fetzie]

re sell value on a Macintosh is insane, my friend has almost a 10 year old Apple laptop, runs honestly just as good as the day he bought it, when he chooses to sell it will still be worth actual money,

 

That's one of the things I don't get. Why would a ten year old laptop be worth more than the scrap value of the components? Didn't the Apple laptops from 2004 still have the PowerPC architecture parts (meaning today's x86( or x86-64) software would be incompatible)?

[mr moose]

So a very large highly regarded engineering company I visited once ran their entire business off iMacs, every single person, cad designers, accounts, receptionist whoever they all had them.

 

I think you'll find this to be a rare situation.  Apple's total market sales for pc is somewhere under 6.3%  (as at 2013).

 

 

The thing I can't resolve is that In Melbourne there is an apple repair shop on every second corner.  Now the cost of maintaining a shop corner in Melbourne is huge, I have seen high profile coffee shops go out of business in these locations.  However there seems to be enough broken macs out their to keep all these shops in business.   If macs are so well built and don't crash or get viruses then why do these shops have enough customers to survive?

 

Before you respond they do not sell products, they are not authorized dealers, they do not make money from dodgy repairs (telling people they need regular servicing). all they do is wait for customers of the street (or return customers).

[Akolyte]

Now, while I wouldn't buy one.  I think its a big step for Apple, Maybe they can make a cheaper one?  Or is that far to much to stretch for Apple.  

 

And in all honesty, people who are professionals or power users probably wont buy this.  They would probably go for a macbook air, or the next imac.  This iMac will get very hot, I know.  My mom has an iMac, but I think for people who've just finished school and have some extra money.

[Balleroffthewaller]

 Then tell me, why does it cost 200$ to pass from a 2.9ghz i5 to a 3.1ghz i7 in the higher end 21.5 inch imac? Because they rip you off. that's a fact. another fact is that I could build a pc with the same specs as this """"cheap"""" imac for 300$. + 200$ for a vry good monitor. still less than half the price. There might be a couple of exceptions, but they are most definitely not the rule.

 

 

 Then tell me, why does it cost 200$ to pass from a 2.9ghz i5 to a 3.1ghz i7 in the higher end 21.5 inch imac? Because they rip you off. that's a fact. another fact is that I could build a pc with the same specs as this """"cheap"""" imac for 300$. + 200$ for a vry good monitor. still less than half the price. There might be a couple of exceptions, but they are most definitely not the rule.

8gb ram $80, 500gb HDD (small form factor) $60, mouse $70, keyboard $70, 802.11ac chip $70, mobo $70, i5 $315, casing, $60, display $200. all together its $995 plus design, manufacturing, advertising, and theres the price.Yes you could choose better parts or a different form factor and get much more performance, but you can see where they get the prices from. 

[Inkz]

lol Only Apple can get away with that price with a 1.4Ghz processor.

[rabidz7]

I have a 2004 iMac G5, with a FX5200, 2GB of 333MHz DDR1, a 120GB OWC 120GB SSD, a 500GB internal HDD, and a 970FX at 1.8GHz. I have the EI bus overclocked to 900MHz. And I can say that it is better in every way than this dirty new X86 piece of shit! My iMac is a desktop with a screen attached; this new hunk of crap is a stationary laptop.

[tacticalpanic]

the replys in this forums when anyone talks about apple products is top lel , you dont buy an imac to do video editing , you do video editing on a work station , you dont play high end games on an imac either , you buy a system with a high end video card. 

 

saying an imac is overpriced because it doesint suit your needs is like me saying a 16 core xeon is overpriced because battlefield 4 only uses 4 cores. 

 

a desktop i5 is overkill for anyone that doesint do heavy cpu tasks. most people would still be fine on a bloody core 2 duo.

 

the only thing apple can really be criticised for is not having pci-e ssd's as standard in there imacs.

 

i stuck a ssd in my imac mini and its a power house and that's with a i5 duel core mobile processor in it. 

 

 

 

by the way that cpu turbo boosts right up to 2.7 ghz

[Kamina]

Looks like Macbook Air specs placed into an AiO PC.

 

I guess it's great if you're a casual but the price could be better for its specs and form factor, like $600 in my opinion. I'm still waiting for a new Macbook Air with a better resolution.

[mr moose]

the replys in this forums when anyone talks about apple products is top lel , you dont buy an imac to do video editing , you do video editing on a work station , you dont play high end games on an imac either , you buy a system with a high end video card. 

 

saying an imac is overpriced because it doesint suit your needs is like me saying a 16 core xeon is overpriced because battlefield 4 only uses 4 cores. 

 

a desktop i5 is overkill for anyone that doesint do heavy cpu tasks. most people would still be fine on a bloody core 2 duo.

 

the only thing apple can really be criticised for is not having pci-e ssd's as standard in there imacs.

 

i stuck a ssd in my imac mini and its a power house and that's with a i5 duel core mobile processor in it. 

 

 

 

by the way that cpu turbo boosts right up to 2.7 ghz

I think the issue people have is not due to the intended use but due to the comparison of hardware/price.  The intended use argument generally only has to be made because when we say that's over priced, another person says not if you want to (insert task here), so the rebuttal is, why spend that much when alternative machine B can do it better cheaper.

[BallGum]

the replys in this forums when anyone talks about apple products is top lel , you dont buy an imac to do video editing , you do video editing on a work station , you dont play high end games on an imac either , you buy a system with a high end video card. 

 

saying an imac is overpriced because it doesint suit your needs is like me saying a 16 core xeon is overpriced because battlefield 4 only uses 4 cores. 

 

a desktop i5 is overkill for anyone that doesint do heavy cpu tasks. most people would still be fine on a bloody core 2 duo.

 

the only thing apple can really be criticised for is not having pci-e ssd's as standard in there imacs.

 

i stuck a ssd in my imac mini and its a power house and that's with a i5 duel core mobile processor in it. 

 

 

 

by the way that cpu turbo boosts right up to 2.7 ghz

 

I agree, different people have different needs, and iMacs aren't for gaming or video editing. But it does seem a little overpriced when most could get a machine for their needs at a lower price. 

[mr moose]

I agree, different people have different needs, and iMacs aren't for gaming or video editing. But it does seem a little overpriced when most could get a machine for their needs at a lower price. 

 

Something I didn't consider when making my last post was that $1200 for a pc that isn't going to process anything heavier than emails, word and maybe some light Photoshoping or audio work is waaaaaay too much.

[Fetzie]

the replys in this forums when anyone talks about apple products is top lel , you dont buy an imac to do video editing , you do video editing on a work station , you dont play high end games on an imac either , you buy a system with a high end video card. 

 

Then why spend over a thousand dollars on a computer, if you don't need high performance for editing or gaming? What is the niche in the market for this product? What is the point of this product, when you can get a good looking 12-13" laptop computer for a third of the price or a 14-15" for half the price that has about the same performance?

[tacticalpanic]

Then why spend over a thousand dollars on a computer, if you don't need high performance for editing or gaming? What is the niche in the market for this product? What is the point of this product, when you can get a good looking 12-13" laptop computer for a third of the price or a 14-15" for half the price that has about the same performance?

 

I personally think its so that they have an entry level desktop imac for people that just want to be apart of the apple Ecosystem , if you allready have an iphone and an Ipad , OSX can save people a ton of time with the way everything syncs.

[mr moose]

I personally think its so that they have an entry level desktop imac for people that just want to be apart of the apple Ecosystem , if you allready have an iphone and an Ipad , OSX can save people a ton of time with the way everything syncs.

 

If $1200 is their idea of entry level computing then I think you should rescind that comment you made about the posters in this thread being top lel and redirect it at someone else.

[CarDesinr]

OK. I hate this product just as much as the next guy, BUT my 73 year old grandmother who has only use mac her entire life, the last mac which is still running, is from 10 years ago which is the Macintosh, the computer that everyone  their mother and every school had bought. So there is really no way in hell that I could ever get her on a windows machine, even though its just better. As a result of this, she will probably be using this as her next computer seeing as this is the least expensive all in one desktop on the market right now.

[Phillyphries]

Why the hell does it cost so much LOL