Nvidia missed the memo

[Emily Young]

Nvidia’s GeForce RTX 3090 was the most expensive consumer GPU ever made, but we thought it was a Titan. Now, the RTX 3090 Ti is here, with a price tag half again as big. Is Nvidia wrong, or were we?

 

 

[manikyath]

that GPU looks like those "we put every ingredient we have into a sandwich" sandwiches...

 

it's slike they took a PCB, they took the fan segment of a GPU cooler, and triple stacked the fins in between.

 

it's no longer a McDouble, it's a heatsink McTriple.

[dogwitch]

23 minutes ago, manikyath said:

that GPU looks like those "we put every ingredient we have into a sandwich" sandwiches...

 

it's slike they took a PCB, they took the fan segment of a GPU cooler, and triple stacked the fins in between.

 

it's no longer a McDouble, it's a heatsink McTriple.

ha~!

[Spotty]

Would have been interesting seeing benchmarks with the 3090Ti limited to the TDP of the 3090 to see how much that slightly higher CUDA core count actually matters or if it is just because Nvidia dialled the power limit up to 11. If you're okay with consuming 450W+ could you set the power limit to 130% and overclock a 3090 to get parity with the 3090Ti? Potential follow up video: "Getting an RTX 3090Ti on a budget" by overclocking a 3090? Though I'd also be happy if you never cover this card again and let it fade in to obscurity.

 

 

Also I'm a little sceptical about those ebay listings for 3090s supposedly selling for $700 or less. I don't believe anybody would be selling RTX 3090s on ebay for $700, especially at a time when they were selling for $3000+. There's always the possibility those were scam listings and the buyer never received a card. By saying "This person got a good deal" I'm worried it might give people the confidence in some of those too-good-to-be-true scams with scam sites selling GPUs at unbelievably low prices.

[MultiGamerClub]

Its gonna be 3500$ base price in norway.. gonna be fun.

Somehow its 2500$ to 3200$ and there are still some 10-20 avaible.. o_O

 

TI VERSION IS CHEAPER THAN NON-TI VERSION, THIS DOESNT MAKE SENSE

Edited March 29, 2022 by MultiGamerClub

[HumdrumPenguin]

If there are people willing to purchase, there will be those willing to sell. Nvidia is 100% right in launching whatever they can if it's going to print money out of it. The whole thing about being (dis)connected with your audience went south long ago. I do not condone the practice (I'm not exactly a stakeholder here), but whoever doesn't see trends like this coming out from a mile away is just blind to the whole situation.

[Lurick]

But can I use it with my 547 watt 95+ Unobtanium PSU?

[Dogzilla07]

This evga model looks awesome. GamersNexus said it was "over-built", running cool and had plenty of room for more cooling. And as they pushed the card to ~530w, that looks promising for air cooled 4080/4090 at around ~600W.

 

It has 8, or even 9 heapipes, mother of god, ...

[Kevo05s]

@GabenJr You said that people "want the big boy" and that GA102 makes up for over 2% of the steam hardware survey. What seems to have been forgotten is that people bought those cards because "if they were going to spend over 1000$ on a card, might as well be the better one". They didn't really have a choice. I am certain that if the 3050ti had been available as long as the 3080, there would be a lot more 3050tis in the market right now. So no, don't blame yourself/the LTT team/the tech space for making people buy the bigger cards, and blame the lack of availability of lower end cards for SUCH a long time.

[Senzelian]

cool.
3070 350€ when?

[learningisgood]

Thanks for your service here. What was that palette cleanser again? You said it too quick to make out. Have you got a link to the video? Or better, do you offer a link to top-rated video cards, cpus, etc?

[AnonymousGuy]

-They probably damaged the market for used 3090s now.  The 3090 Strix has already been selling for about $2000 used, below MSRP.

 

-Meh because the 4000 series is probably going to be upon us and far better "value".  It's like they went backwards and released the Titan last instead of first.  The 3090 was the XX80Ti: the exact same performance as the Titan with an overclock, but costing less.

[jones177]

To me it is just another 3090 with improvements that the original 3090 should have had.

 

Vram on one side of the card. 

It was my biggest worry so instead of buying a top performing card I went for features the address the vram issue.

Both of my 3090s are MSI Gaming X Trios. They have heat pipes on the backplate to help keep vram temps under control. 

 

Larger cooler.

Most 3080 ti/3090s use the same cooler as the 3080s but are hotter cards.

Hopefully GN got it right and the card is relatively cool. 

 

I bought one.

It is the EVGA  FTW3 Ultra. 

I was in the market for another 3090 and it was about $100 cheaper than my last 3090.

 

[HenrySalayne]

So it's basically a factory overclocked 3090 for a hefty price increase? Ok, it's currently as expensive or cheaper than the 3090, but who knows how long.

[ClusterJones]

I appreciate the LTT crew taking the time to point out to those that might be less clued in that this is basically only a product for people who have an unlimited budget, and use their PC as a dick measuring device. For everyone else, it really doesn't make much sense, but then again, the 3090 doesn't make much sense over the 3080Ti in my opinion. I think, at the end of the day, that's really what this video is.

[MadAnt250]

Nvidia has proved that they are cold. This stupid card has no place in the market at the price it is being sold at, anyone who wants to overspend and buy a 3090 Ti is falling right for Nvidia's trap. 

[Blademaster91]

Nvidia is so disconnected with their consumers,  first with a 3080 12gb when that should've been the 3080 in the first place, and now a slightly faster 3090 Ti at an even higher price.

[MultiGamerClub]

5 hours ago, HumdrumPenguin said:

If there are people willing to purchase, there will be those willing to sell. Nvidia is 100% right in launching whatever they can if it's going to print money out of it. The whole thing about being (dis)connected with your audience went south long ago. I do not condone the practice (I'm not exactly a stakeholder here), but whoever doesn't see trends like this coming out from a mile away is just blind to the whole situation.

I could sell my 3080ti for 3000NOK less than the 18000NOK that i buyed it for.. And save up 5000NOK and get a 3090ti.. That is somehow cheaper than some 3090's..

 

Not sure how these prices makes sense.. 3090's TUF for 17000NOK but its rare.. Then MSI 3090 for 23000NOK.. TI version for 21000NOK.. ????? Confused pricing at launch xD

[Deadpool2onBlu-Ray]

4 hours ago, Senzelian said:

cool.
3070 350€ when?

2024

[Deadpool2onBlu-Ray]

17 minutes ago, Blademaster91 said:

Nvidia is so disconnected with their consumers,  first with a 3080 12gb when that should've been the 3080 in the first place, and now a slightly faster 3090 Ti at an even higher price.

The 3080 12gb was particularly egregious. It was like MSRP $1300 instead of 699. That's ALMOST DOUBLE, FOR 2GB MORE VRAM. Nvidia didn't even want to set an MSRP so they didn't look like the bad guys, the AIB partners did 

[Tamesh16]

A bit of a weird comment, but I would have liked if there was a brief segment to show how that new adapter connected to the GPU. and also I believe there is also an included support to prevent sagging, those would be nice to include. at most couple seconds each before jump head first into all the graphs and analysis

 

also because those are new it was interesting to see, I had to look at JayzTwocents video to see it, or If you figured that would have already been covered a quick b roll shot would have sufficed too 

[Blademaster91]

3 hours ago, Ryan829 said:

The 3080 12gb was particularly egregious. It was like MSRP $1300 instead of 699. That's ALMOST DOUBLE, FOR 2GB MORE VRAM. Nvidia didn't even want to set an MSRP so they didn't look like the bad guys, the AIB partners did 

The 3080 12gb was really egregious, I agree, and the only reason it could get priced so high is there weren't any 3080 10gb cards available for less than $1000, no official MSRP is a terrible thing to do also. Nvidia has changed the whole market since the rtx 2000 series and I don't expect pricing to get any better with the 4000 series.

[jones177]

12 hours ago, Blademaster91 said:

 Nvidia has changed the whole market since the rtx 2000 series and I don't expect pricing to get any better with the 4000 series.

I think the market changed with the 20 series.

In 2018 I bought a FTW3 Ultra 2080 ti from EVGA for $1500. In 2021 I bought a FTW3 Ultra 3080 ti for $1450.

It was the same with my VGA XC cards. XC 2080 ti $1,200. XC3 Ultra 3080 ti $1,200. 

 

The FTW3 Ultra 2080 ti replaced 2x GTX 1080 tis in SLI. So SLI stopped being a thing and the only card that can replace it cost the same as two GTX 1080 tis.

Nvidia was not taking a risk with the 2080 ti since there was already a base that payed that kind of money for the performance. 

 

Also when I bought 980 tis 1080 ti and 2080 tis they were the top of the gaming line and Titans were considered productivity cards. All the people I knew that did video for a living had Titans. Now the Titans have gone but in name only and they have morphed into RTX 3090 cards. Now people that were happy with the xx80 ti as the top of the line want xx90 tis. 

If they were called Titan would be less of a market for them.

[HumdrumPenguin]

On 3/29/2022 at 1:55 PM, MultiGamerClub said:

I could sell my 3080ti for 3000NOK less than the 18000NOK that i buyed it for.. And save up 5000NOK and get a 3090ti.. That is somehow cheaper than some 3090's..

 

Not sure how these prices makes sense.. 3090's TUF for 17000NOK but its rare.. Then MSI 3090 for 23000NOK.. TI version for 21000NOK.. ????? Confused pricing at launch xD

Launch prices don't matter that much at this point. The market is setting the actual prices. Since I started working in my current field in 2019, my PC gaming habits were gone with the wind. I'm so perfectly fine with a 2080 Ti for the rare occasion I launch something on PC that unless it catches fire or something, I don't see myself spending on another card anytime soon...

[MultiGamerClub]

4 hours ago, HumdrumPenguin said:

Launch prices don't matter that much at this point. The market is setting the actual prices. Since I started working in my current field in 2019, my PC gaming habits were gone with the wind. I'm so perfectly fine with a 2080 Ti for the rare occasion I launch something on PC that unless it catches fire or something, I don't see myself spending on another card anytime soon...

Its funny, because I see 3080 ti go for some 15000nok on used marketplace.. Meanwhile a 3090ti is "only" 7 or 8000k nok more..

 

Gonna be fun to see how high the prices go up.

 

I'm not gonna upgrade my PC in a while, outside getting a 75hz 1080p monitor for triple setup and multi rendering for some simulation games I play.

 

Just hoping to save up for.. Wait shit it's still hardware, either 2x8Tb hdd or 2x2Tb ssd.

 

Then I'm booked.. Or so I say

 

2.25tb all ssd now but still somehow manage to fill it up in zero time.

 

Before I forget, the 2080ti is like 4000 to 8000nok in Norway used.. Not sure if it's incredible or sad that they lost so much market value because 3000 launched..

 

Iguess the same thing is gonna happen with 3000 series to some extent when the 4000 series comes out..

 

Damn, should have gone for a 3090, if a oc white comes out for the 3090 to I'm juet gonna sell my gpu regardless, already have a 1000w anyway

 

Vrchat and folding probably won't mind more performance