Youtube is censoring the like count Opinion's

[Grungble]

This was something posted to the LTT subreddit and I wanted to know other's opinions about the removal of the dislike count.

Here's the link:

 

[Shimejii]

This is pretty much covering up the failed Youtube rewind and you cant tell me otherwise.

 

Honestly its probably just enough of their Darling creators went to them and complained that they didnt like the negativity and it was affecting them so they just removed it. It was bound to happen with how Soft a lot of people are on the web when it comes to criticism 

[BondiBlue]

I personally think it's a stupid idea, and their reasoning for the change is pretty weak. But then again, this is YouTube we're talking about, so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised. They've done a number of annoying things over the years. 

[Jurrunio]

3 minutes ago, Shimejii said:

This is pretty much covering up the failed Youtube rewind and you cant tell me otherwise.

 

Honestly its probably just enough of their Darling creators went to them and complained that they didnt like the negativity and it was affecting them so they just removed it. It was bound to happen with how Soft a lot of people are on the web when it comes to criticism 

I mean creators can already disable comments and like/dislike buttons as a way out for those who don't want to face negativity. But then I guess there's no limit on how soft one could be.

[Arika]

It is actually stupid to remove it. The like to dislike ratio is super important, it's how i know if a tutorial i'm about to watch is legitimate or just a bunch of fluff.

 

14 minutes ago, Shimejii said:

Honestly its probably just enough of their Darling creators went to them and complained that they didnt like the negativity and it was affecting them so they just removed it. It was bound to happen with how Soft a lot of people are on the web when it comes to criticism 

And these are the kinds of people that shouldn't even have a channel. if you're scared of criticism, don't be a youtuber.

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

Not an obvious decision but if it reduces brigading it might make the algorithm less... youtube algorithm, which would be good

[Skiiwee29]

Linus has mentioned this on twitter this evening.

 

 

 

[sub68]

I say you know you become a present creator when you get a dislikes, It will happen.

this show youtube thinking this is a snowflake generation when people should see what others opinons.

[Spotty]

Youtube just wants people spending more time watching youtube even if the videos are junk. If people see a high dislike ratio that might stop them from watching it

Amazon: "We have determined that negative reviews on products for sale on Amazon.com reduces sales, so we have disabled negative reviews from showing. Only 5 star product reviews are displayed" /s

 

3 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

I mean creators can already disable comments and like/dislike buttons as a way out for those who don't want to face negativity. But then I guess there's no limit on how soft one could be.

The difference is disabling likes/dislikes on a video is a change the creator has to make and everyone knows that if a creator has disabled the like/dislike ratio then it probably means the video is garbage. I think that's why Youtube are removing the dislike counter from every channel whether they want it or not so the few creators who do want it aren't criticised for disabling dislikes. They can just sit back and go "I would really like to show the like/dislike ratio but it's out of my control sorry" while actually being glad it isn't showing the 5k dislikes their video received.

[Spotty]

I just watched the announcement video from Youtube. Almost spat my drink out when I saw the dislikes on the video.

 

[BondiBlue]

3 minutes ago, Spotty said:

I just watched the announcement video from Youtube. Almost spat my drink out when I saw the dislikes on the video.

This announcement video could get more dislikes than Rewind 2018 and they still wouldn't listen. 

[Arika]

5 minutes ago, Spotty said:

I just watched the announcement video from Youtube. Almost spat my drink out when I saw the dislikes on the video.

I'm surprised it doesn't have more

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

20 minutes ago, Spotty said:

I just watched the announcement video from Youtube. Almost spat my drink out when I saw the dislikes on the video.

 

What's genuinely worrying is that the ratio isn't the most skewed I've seen a like/dislike ratio can be. Still quite a number of likes, though how many of those can be bots, we'll never know. 

 

[pythonmegapixel]

 I think that this thread has a stupid title. How is this censorship?

 

5 hours ago, GreatnessRD said:

Just another day in the life of Generation Snowflake

 

This seems like a bit of an irrelevant comment. YouTube aren't turning off negative feedback, you can still write something in the comments if you want. It's not even turning off the blanket ability for someone to say "I hate this" without providing any constructive feedback - you can still press the dislike button.

 

Honestly I think it's often true that the real snowflakes are the people who throw the word "snowflake" around as an insult whenever someone decides something that they happen not to like.

[MOSSIE125]

54 minutes ago, pythonmegapixel said:

 I think that this thread has a stupid title. How is this censorship?

 

 

This seems like a bit of an irrelevant comment. YouTube aren't turning off negative feedback, you can still write something in the comments if you want. It's not even turning off the blanket ability for someone to say "I hate this" without providing any constructive feedback - you can still press the dislike button.

 

Honestly I think it's often true that the real snowflakes are the people who throw the word "snowflake" around as an insult whenever someone decides something that they happen not to like.

As a YouTube creator you can delete any comment you don't like.

So in essence, you as a viewer go to a channel. You only see the amount of likes and you see that there are no negative comments, but in actuality there are more dislikes than likes (but you can't see them) and the YouTube creator deleted all the negative comments.

[InstantNewt]

Honestly this doesn't surprise me. Most social media, which I guess YouTube can be considered, has removed the dislike button or never had one in the first place. I understand why it sucks as tech enthusiasts because now I'm going to end up watching someone's crappy tutorial on mute just to realize I'm being Rick Rolled because I can't easily look at the dislike ratio.

 

On the other hand, in my opinion the reason why Reddit is a toxic cesspool is because the downvote can act as a silent bullying technique that actually hides dissenting opinions. Functionally, the YouTube dislike button isn't the same, but it can lead to a bit of a mob rule. I doubt removing it will make any difference to creators because they still have to deal with the onslaught of comments though. To me it seems like classic out-of-touch YouTube.

[Guest willies leg]

Weird, I just noticed LTT forums only has like and agree and funny.

Need to add dislike here?

[Sauron]

In principle I don't really care, it's true that negative ratings can hurt a community (which is why we don't have them here). In the specific case of youtube, however, it's a bit different because the algorithm still pushes videos that are terribly rated and if you can't tell the difference then you might be subject to misinformation... plus, if creators can't see dislikes they can't really get at-a-glance feedback from their communities.

[tkitch]

This is the only thing the title makes me think of:

 

[pythonmegapixel]

3 minutes ago, CptnReflex said:

Google wants to control people. 

And in other news, the sky is blue.

 

Their entire business model is effectively selling influence on your life to the highest bidder - we knew that already! Still not sure the dislike count is a massive concern, though.

[CptnReflex]

Just now, pythonmegapixel said:

And in other news, the sky is blue.

 

Their entire business model is effectively selling influence on your life to the highest bidder - we knew that already! Still not sure the dislike count is a massive concern, though.

I mean you're right but I still got triggered lol

[Tan3l6]

Tears For Fears @Year 1985 A.D.

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Everybody Wants To Rule The World

 

Guessing they were on to something...

[Blademaster91]

This is stupid, it seems like enough creators have enough influence on Youtube complained and got it removed, because creators can remove the like/dislike button, I guess people didn't like seeing the like to dislike ratio, which is stupid because if you can't handle any criticism you shouldn't be on Youtube anyway.

[WolframaticAlpha]

11 hours ago, Arika S said:

I'm surprised it doesn't have more

I am surprised at the number of likes.

[YoungBlade]

49 minutes ago, Blademaster91 said:

This is stupid, it seems like enough creators have enough influence on Youtube complained and got it removed, because creators can remove the like/dislike button, I guess people didn't like seeing the like to dislike ratio, which is stupid because if you can't handle any criticism you shouldn't be on Youtube anyway.

I don't think this was requested by most prominent people on the platform. I think it was requested by businesses. A lot of companies already disable the like/dislike and comments altogether because they are afraid that any negativity will hurt their brand. But if only likes are shown, it benefits them, because they can be seen as being open to feedback while only presenting the positive feedback. If Google's AI gets good enough, soon you'll have the ability to only allow positive comments, and companies will enable those, too.

 

The thing is, the videos I'm most skeptical of are the ones where likes and dislikes are disabled, yet the comments are all positive. That is an obvious sign of curating comments on the part of the creator and immediately makes me distrust them. If you don't allow disent of any kind, you obviously are not a person of good character.