Food & Cooking

[Radium_Angel]

I like my salsa on my chips, any other way is messy.

[airborne spoon]

It really depends on my mood.

 

Sometimes I like that stuff that's almost pureed like what restaurants serve, other times i want something closer to pico de gallo, sometimes i go for that southwest salsa from Safeway, which is pretty much always delicious.

 

There is no right answer as everyone has different tastes for their salsa. However mild salsa should be considered a crime as it is bland and had no heat.

[whm1974]

4 minutes ago, airborne spoon said:

It really depends on my mood.

 

Sometimes I like that stuff that's almost pureed like what restaurants serve, other times i want something closer to pico de gallo, sometimes i go for that southwest salsa from Safeway, which is pretty much always delicious.

 

There is no right answer as everyone has different tastes for their salsa. However mild salsa should be considered a crime as it is bland and had no heat.

Hey what is wrong with mild salsa? Chiles do range from Mild to Extremely Hot you know. 

[whm1974]

Come to think about it I do want Pico De Gallo Salsa. Or Roaster's Beak?

[Donut417]

Black bean and Corn salsa is pretty good. I like most of anything as long as its Mild. Im not in to spicy foods. 

 

2 hours ago, airborne spoon said:

However mild salsa should be considered a crime as it is bland and had no heat.

The no heat part is the point. Some of us dont like our ass holes burned out when the Salsa passing thru the exit. If it burns on the way down, it will burn on the way out, and burning on the way out is worse than burning on the way down. 

[whm1974]

While I do cook with Oil from time to time, I really don't like doing it. In addiction to Health Concerns, there is also safety ones as well. I live in a SRO and wooden cabinets are over the Stove. Granted I only use Butter and Olive Oil mostly. And seldom do anything that can be called Deep Frying.

 

So enter Spray Oils. Since I gotten my Air Fryer I have been using those for cooking Tortillas which I didn't know those had to be heated up to be enjoyable. Plus these soft shells don't have the problem of breakage.

 

So Spray or regular do you use?

 

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[WindirBear]

Sprays use canola or vegetable oil. Olive oil is wayyy better. Warm up them tortillas on a pan with no oil or in a microwave. Also, air fryers are just weird shaped toaster ovens.

[Chris Pratt]

Use olive oil. Has health benefits, adds great flavor, and is easy to work with. Sprays are awful. There's also a lot of cookware that can actually be damaged by spray oils, particularly ceramic.

[Guest willies leg]

You can get a pump sprayer for olive oil, much easier to cover the pan.

[tkitch]

Get one of these and use real oil:
https://www.amazon.com/Misto-Brushed-Aluminum-Oil-Sprayer/dp/B00004SPZV

 

Grapeseed is better than Olive oil for pans, due to higher smoke point.  

[whm1974]

2 hours ago, WindirBear said:

Sprays use canola or vegetable oil. Olive oil is wayyy better. Warm up them tortillas on a pan with no oil or in a microwave. Also, air fryers are just weird shaped toaster ovens.

I spray oil in and on tortilla so I can bend them for tacos. If I do it right there some crunch but still bendable.

1 hour ago, willies leg said:

You can get a pump sprayer for olive oil, much easier to cover the pan.

Thank You. Didn't know that.

43 minutes ago, tkitch said:

Get one of these and use real oil:
https://www.amazon.com/Misto-Brushed-Aluminum-Oil-Sprayer/dp/B00004SPZV

 

Grapeseed is better than Olive oil for pans, due to higher smoke point.  

Isn't Grapeseed oil pricey? I'm not deep frying here.

[tkitch]

3 minutes ago, whm1974 said:

I spray oil in and on tortilla so I can bend them for tacos. If I do it right there some crunch but still bendable.

Thank You. Didn't know that.

Isn't Grapeseed oil pricey? I'm not deep frying here.

More than olive?  Yes.  Is it some absurdly exotic oil that's 50$ a Liter?  not even close.

I usually get a bottle for ~12-14 bucks (US) at the store that lasts a few months.  

Also:  Deep Frying is less risky than pan frying for oil smoke points.  You set a temp in a fryer and it goes there.  A Pan will ABSOLUTELY get hotter than the smoke point of oil.  (Burning oil creates carcinogens and bad things.)  

[whm1974]

3 minutes ago, tkitch said:

More than olive?  Yes.  Is it some absurdly exotic oil that's 50$ a Liter?  not even close.

I usually get a bottle for ~12-14 bucks (US) at the store that lasts a few months.  

Also:  Deep Frying is less risky than pan frying for oil smoke points.  You set a temp in a fryer and it goes there.  A Pan will ABSOLUTELY get hotter than the smoke point of oil.  (Burning oil creates carcinogens and bad things.)  

When I was growing up around where I lived, you had to go out of your way to buy Grapeseed Oil. It also cost more then ~$12-$14US Dollars. And that is for a small amount of it.

 

So Regular cooking oil most, and sometimes Olive.

[tikker]

1 hour ago, tkitch said:

Grapeseed is better than Olive oil for pans, due to higher smoke point.  

Different oils for different purposes. If your olive oil smokes then you are cooking too hot and need to turn down your stove. If you need it as hot or hotter than olive oil's smoke point then you are using olive oil where you should not be using olive oil.

[tkitch]

6 minutes ago, whm1974 said:

When I was growing up around where I lived, you had to go out of your way to buy Grapeseed Oil. It also cost more then ~$12-$14US Dollars. And that is for a small amount of it.

 

So Regular cooking oil most, and sometimes Olive.

I get it at Trader Joe's or the local grocery store, it does not require hunting.

 

Food availability has increased a lot, there's a ton of selection for things that used to not be around.  

 

https://www.amazon.com/Grapeola-GRAPEOLA-OIL-GRAPE-SEED/dp/B01MREE90Q  

My store carries this, I think it's a slightly smaller bottle than this for the 12-14 buck range.

 

1 minute ago, tikker said:

Different oils for different purposes. If your olive oil smokes then you are cooking too hot and need to turn down your stove. If you need it as hot or hotter than olive oil's smoke point then you are using olive oil where you should not be using olive oil.

In theory, yes.  But olive oil's smoke point starts at 375F.  Which isn't that far above the cook temps for a lot of pan frying.  (Needing to get 350 isn't uncommon.)

On a gas burner 25F isn't that big a change.  Especially if using a pan with hot spots.  (IE:  Cast Iron) 

[tikker]

26 minutes ago, tkitch said:

In theory, yes.  But olive oil's smoke point starts at 375F.  Which isn't that far above the cook temps for a lot of pan frying.  (Needing to get 350 isn't uncommon.)

On a gas burner 25F isn't that big a change.  Especially if using a pan with hot spots.  (IE:  Cast Iron) 

Which indicates that you shouldn't be using olive oil as you need to go to/above its smoke point. I cook with it pretty much daily for sauteing etc. and never have it smoking on me. For things that need high temperatures such as frying, stir-fry etc. my go-to is peanut oil.

[whm1974]

So watching YouTuber "Weird Explorer" I learned that the US and Iceland grows Bananas. While Iceland mostly stopped due lowering Tariffs on Fruit, aside from some Greenhouses. Here the US they are grown in a Small Scale. Florida, Georgia, and some right in here California.

 

I guessing that the Varieties produced are not the common Cadvenes ones found everywhere? One of which is the Praying Hands Banana. I'll post the video later.

[TetraSky]

Ok

[whm1974]

here it is:

 

[dizmo]

Good to see some diversity, Cavendish bananas are far too common, and there's a very good chance they disappear in the next 5 to 10 years.

 

[whm1974]

24 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Good to see some diversity, Cavendish bananas are far too common, and there's a very good chance they disappear in the next 5 to 10 years.

That is what happen to the Big Mike or Gros Michail Banana or whatever it was called.

[Heliian]

Canada also grows bananas:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada/meet-the-farmers-growing-bananas-in-ontario-1.3007500

[whm1974]

8 hours ago, Heliian said:

Canada also grows bananas:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada/meet-the-farmers-growing-bananas-in-ontario-1.3007500

I should have realize that due to Greenhouse Tech it is possible to grow crops in very different climates then without this.   

[whm1974]

So ever since I read or heard about this food created to punish unruly Prisoners, I have wondered just how bad or effected this is. So who has eaten Loaf before?