LTT Official Folding Month 2020!!!

[marknd59]

22 minutes ago, shaz2sxy said:

Whats the link where it shows the list of gpu,cpu etc that you are using? it was posted earlier in this thread but its lost

This one ?

 

https://apps.foldingathome.org/cpu?q=

 

[GOTSpectrum]

We got the love data, validation in progress

[GOTSpectrum]

@Den-Fi WTF, is that a kind WU or you just happy to see me? 

[LazyDev]

Interesting find. Enabling CPU folding did this to three of my GPU's. They have not recovered from the performance drop. I have a Ryzen 7 3700X.

 

[justpoet]

I guess I win the folding month timeline easter egg prize.  I beat @Den-Fi!

 

As for water cooling, it helps on something like a gaming workload, where everything spikes at different times and doesn't stay fully loaded.  The reason for this is heat soak…kinda like having a much larger heat sink would do.

 

In general, air is better for sustained loads, since there are less required material heat transfers, and no pump.  However, water cooling will always win if airflow isn't good in the case and you move the rad to someplace where the airflow is decent.  I feel most people here who build dedicated folding rigs are either doing open bench/mining type chassis builds, or have great airflow cases, or fold with the side off normally.  So, for any of those, air would be slightly more efficient, unless the air cooler is too small and a radiator wouldn't be.

[GOTSpectrum]

2 minutes ago, justpoet said:

I guess I win the folding month timeline easter egg prize.  I beat @Den-Fi!

 

As for water cooling, it helps on something like a gaming workload, where everything spikes at different times and doesn't stay fully loaded.  The reason for this is heat soak…kinda like having a much larger heat sink would do.

 

In general, air is better for sustained loads, since there are less required material heat transfers, and no pump.  However, water cooling will always win if airflow isn't good in the case and you move the rad to someplace where the airflow is decent.  I feel most people here who build dedicated folding rigs are either doing open bench/mining type chassis builds, or have great airflow cases, or fold with the side off normally.  So, for any of those, air would be slightly more efficient, unless the air cooler is too small and a radiator wouldn't be.

I only have AIOs cause I got them stupid cheap... 

[marknd59]

Points data validation for day 20 is complete blog post will be up soon.

[GOTSpectrum]

 

[marknd59]

@Den-Fi congratulations on a new high of 87M points in a day

[LAR_Systems]

4 hours ago, marknd59 said:

I thought it was 5 weeks and we only have 5 weeks of sheets to fill out

I just fold until @GOTSpectrum tells me to stop.

[cbigfoot]

@LazyDevDAM U lol now i gotta find more power...

[Egg-Roll]

1 hour ago, LAR_Systems said:

I mean if we're just making up stuff obviously the best F@H cooling solution is a 8X 3090 rig with a corsair nuclear reactor to power those GPUs resting in an Olympic sized swimming pool full of liquid nitrogen cooling that has RGB. 

 

I don't have any spares of that gear right now to prove it, but if I did... believe me... that would be a show stopper that would only need to work once in a million to prove it was the best idea for cooling a rig.    

There's a difference between my realistic comment and your sarcastic unrealistic comment. I would if I could but can't right now, else I actually would. If you have a donor unit I'd be more than happy to try Good luck on doing your sarcastic comment w/o going to jail with a nuclear reactor, because we both know you likely won't get permits to use one. If you want to insult someone at least try to make it relevant and at least can be attempted.

 

And I might just do it just to irritate you, however it won't be as jank as the youtubers do it because I want it to be long term. My current freezer would be a good donor unit it's old but not too old I already have it and if all else fails it'll cost me no extra money to get rid of it if it doesn't work, which fyi I can't see that happening because fyi chest freezers are stupidly good at their jobs. Good luck with your nuclear reactor, when do you expect to get that up and running? 3030?

 

1 hour ago, LAR_Systems said:

You might not want to be publishing  refrigeration advice if you know you have a known leak and don't replace the $20 door seal, then defrost your chest freezer with it plugged in and running as you seem to be implying. 

 

Or you have a model that does not run the compressor when the lid is open wide enough, in which case it's not the same as it running under load continuously and does not prove the point you were trying to make. 

 

On a personal note, not all repair shops are scammers, more often then not it's peoples misuse and not reading the instructions on appliances that lead to common breakdowns, then not wanting to hear they did something wrong and passing the blame on to the repair person "THAT MUST BE SCAMMING THEM" when it's time to literally pay for their mistakes.

 

Felt the urge to comment on this originally as it seemed to be framed more as a crazy, but sort of practical F@H rig cooling question / thought that might be looking for an answer and thought I could help out.  My mistake.

Actually it's the door not the seal some fool put something heavy on it damaging it shortly after getting it (not me so don't even bother accusing me), I don't need to fix the seal I just put something like a big can of soup and it is fixed, didn't know about it for about 2 years which caused the ice build up, as to my other part of the comment I took everything out of the freezers top part because I knew the bottom would be fine and threw it in the fridge (or it's freezer what could fit) to prevent immediate defrosting, the unit kicked on maybe 1 extra time than normal, warm day AC not yet installed, that didn't come for another 2 years I think. You clearly don't give enough credit where credit is due for chest freezers.

 

Nope it's a cheap unit, no fancy features as stated above it kicked on.

 

Yea, no. I know many are not scammers but it's literately built around scamming people, dryer motherboard dies $100 + $300 (80 call out charge) to fix it just out of warranty, did nothing wrong to the machine it was gas and randomly produced an error one day, and did everything proper to maintain it looked up the code, everything. Can't tell me someones time is worth about $400 a hour plus parts, called several places since we knew exactly what was wrong, similar pricing. While your family may not be scammers the industry itself is. Also that was a contractor/worker from the place we bought it from(or the manufacture I forget now), said person didn't need to touch the gas parts at all, else the price would be justifiable because I looked it up, and yes you could do it yourself at home and able to buy the board as well, at least they didn't charge extra for the part. Look at CBCs marketplace if you want more proof, but considering you have family in the business you'll likely deny anything about it. However yes, I have seen people claim being scammed when they did wrong, still doesn't change the industry as a whole.

 

No you felt the urge to try to prove a point, a point that is potentially true but equally potentially not, based on facts from events that have absolutely nothing to do with what I was talking about originally. Helping out would have been actually discussing how it may or may not work or if it could work how one could go by doing it. You literally went out of your way to say basically no it can't be done by any means by using family working in the field and assuming I would be dumb enough to let a unit run 24/7 that is clearly not built to do so, Also who says that pump won't last 5 years running 24/7? You? How would you know, you didn't make it you don't know the model, you are assuming. I know how freezers work, possibly better than you, in fact I could even say yes to that, because I knew what I was doing with the freezer door open because I've had to do similar acts in the past on a different freezer, I would never leave my fridge freezer door open to clean it out, but it doesn't get ice buildup so that never happens, use to have a old one years ago that did tho.

 

So how about proving me wrong threw math (I love being proved wrong, it means I'm not perfect), read up about thermodynamics (and how chest freezers work) then do the math with say a 20 sqft unit full of frozen items at 80% packing efficiency, your choice of internal thermal settings as long as it is not obviously too low or off and incoming thermals of 40C (how it is achieved is irrelevant) that has any diameter of your choice inside so long it is not a single tube going straight down as that could create a hot spot. I know you won't do it, but it'll be interesting if you did, because I basically would have to do that in order to figure out how to go about doing it and how many cards said freezer could cool, one might even find a freezer full of -20 air is enough to cool 10 cards w/o kicking on too many times, unlikely but won't know till the math is done or one tries it(trust me it'll be the first thing I would try). That's the point even if you knew everything about freezers doesn't mean you know everything about what I was suggesting or wanting to accomplish, I'm guessing you were assuming I wanted to push out near 0 temps, while ideal I know it likely won't happen due to the time likely spent in the freezer, jumping to conclusions when not talking in person/phone/live chat is a bad idea. Maybe I wanted/was suggesting to take the temp down 15C from 40 to 25 the 20sqft freezer shouldn't have a issue providing adequate cooling w/o killing itself it that case, and saying no it won't w/o proof is really not a good idea because like I said it only takes 1 attempt out of any number whether it be the first try or the 1 millionth try to prove you wrong. You even said no to a water cooled mineral oil setup because I'm guessing you somehow assuming it's only mineral oil and nothing else, see the issues that happen when one jumps to conclusions?

 

Now I'm not going to bother replying to anymore comments about this because it is OT, but I was being serious and still am that a freezer could still be a potential cooler for folding equipment if done right, unless you do the math to prove to me it won't work, then I will. Enjoy

[GOTSpectrum]

34 minutes ago, cbigfoot said:

@LazyDevDAM U lol now i gotta find more power...

Wait... we finding more power? 

[cbigfoot]

1 minute ago, GOTSpectrum said:

Wait... we finding more power? 

I have a friend that might have some horsepower to borrow

[GOTSpectrum]

Just now, cbigfoot said:

I have a friend that might have some horsepower to borrow

I hate you

[rodarkone]

I am sad .. after 1 month of folding continuously I was hoping for 1 billion points, but due to the hiccups this I will be just bellow  by (most likely) between 1-2 million .. so close  but so far away. 

 

[LAR_Systems]

Just now, rodarkone said:

I am sad .. after 1 month of folding continuously I was hoping for 1 billion points, but due to the hiccups this I will be just bellow  by (most likely) between 1-2 million .. so close  but so far away. 

 

Don't beat yourself up, the difference is easily accounted for in the change of WU difficulty over the past week. 

You got the power, but the assignment server gods were not on board.    But there's always next month!

[LazyDev]

Just had one the best updates in quite a while.

 

[cbigfoot]

24 minutes ago, LazyDev said:

Just had one the best updates in quite a while.

 

Reported for overclocking.

[Favebook]

3 minutes ago, cbigfoot said:

Reported for overclocking.

*Unlicensed overclocking.

 

I did not see approval from Den-Fi to overclock those RX 580s...

[Black Sallet]

13 hours ago, shaz2sxy said:

@LAR_Systems do you know how many 3070 are currently running F@H?

At least two, mine arrived Friday morning

[Black Sallet]

The 12 pin connector to single 8 pin adaptor on the 3070FE is daft through, at least I can request a free 12 pin cable from Seasonic.

[shaz2sxy]

14 minutes ago, Black Sallet said:

The 12 pin connector to single 8 pin adaptor on the 3070FE is daft through, at least I can request a free 12 pin cable from Seasonic.

I know. I have a NZXT H1 - which came with a NZXT PSU, i'm sure it is a seasonic branded one but can't claim a cable as NZXT arent going to make one

[LazyDev]

That 12 pin connector is just Nvidia been a knob. They were the market leaders, so they could pull this sort of connector off that probably won't catch on. Have to see how Radeon makes changes in the near future. If those Radeons outperform a 3080 on F@H, then AMD have sold me.

[shaz2sxy]

5 minutes ago, LazyDev said:

That 12 pin connector is just Nvidia been a knob. They were the market leaders, so they could pull this sort of connector off that probably won't catch on. Have to see how Radeon makes changes in the near future. If those Radeons outperform a 3080 on F@H, then AMD have sold me.

the annoying thing is that the 3070 only uses one 8pin and there is plenty of space for the 8pin on the card?

also the AIB partners are using 8pin connectors so makes no sense.