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1 minute ago, Bombastinator said:

Mmmm… more information that is accurate anyway.  Misinformation seems to only do harm.   Leaks before release can be useful because if something has an issue, like say that thing with Apple, childporn, and picture stuff, so stuff can be looked at and considered before release, but I’m not sure I even understand that whole thing.  

 

It's always up to the audience to do the work of correctly assessing the info available to them to separate the wheat from the chaff. 

 

If the alternative is that the only info the public has is the sanitized, packaged, marketing department-approved stuff the corporations which publish games deign to dole out, then leaked info, incomplete or confusing though it may be at times, is 100% a net positive. 

Corps aren't your friends. "Bottleneck calculators" are BS. Only suckers buy based on brand. It's your PC, do what makes you happy.  If your build meets your needs, you don't need anyone else to "rate" it for you. And talking about being part of a "master race" is cringe. Watch this space for further truths people need to hear.

 

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tech is overpriced...

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3 minutes ago, adarw said:

tech is overpriced...

 

1. Not unpopular.

2. The price of most consumer tech products adjusted for real purchasing power has trended downward for decades.

3. The price is what the market will bear. 

Corps aren't your friends. "Bottleneck calculators" are BS. Only suckers buy based on brand. It's your PC, do what makes you happy.  If your build meets your needs, you don't need anyone else to "rate" it for you. And talking about being part of a "master race" is cringe. Watch this space for further truths people need to hear.

 

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Controller vibration is mostly useless and distracting and should have been dropped once the novelty of the N64 Rumble Pak wore off.

Corps aren't your friends. "Bottleneck calculators" are BS. Only suckers buy based on brand. It's your PC, do what makes you happy.  If your build meets your needs, you don't need anyone else to "rate" it for you. And talking about being part of a "master race" is cringe. Watch this space for further truths people need to hear.

 

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3 minutes ago, Middcore said:

Controller vibration is mostly useless and distracting and should have been dropped once the novelty of the N64 Rumble Pak wore off.

I like the rumble effect when it’s used subtly and occasionally, but it seems to be overused, and the rubble is too strong, to the point it gets annoying. 

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49 minutes ago, Middcore said:

 

It's always up to the audience to do the work of correctly assessing the info available to them to separate the wheat from the chaff. 

 

If the alternative is that the only info the public has is the sanitized, packaged, marketing department-approved stuff the corporations which publish games deign to dole out, then leaked info, incomplete or confusing though it may be at times, is 100% a net positive. 

Not sure about 100%.  More often than not though certainly. Above 90% probably.  There is that last niggling few percent.  Better than not though I agree.

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Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

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49 minutes ago, adarw said:

tech is overpriced...

Might be situationally dependent. Looking at the amount of water to make ultra pure water, and the amount of ultra pure water needed to make a wafer it could get a bit ugly.  Makes me wonder how much cleaning of water reverse osmosis desalinization does just in its operation, and if an efficiency could be found in modifying that operation at all. Often yes very much so.

Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

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On 8/23/2021 at 4:01 PM, HelpfulTechWizard said:

no. just no. You literally can not cool some cpus on a air cooler, try cooling a tr3990x with even a nhd15. thats not going well.

you can just get ready to have a loud fan.
over 400Ws water cooling is needed for a normal sized CPU/GPU

 

On 8/23/2021 at 2:33 PM, Mark Kaine said:

OLED sucks.

No its got its advantages, good luck getting inky blacks and bright whites on any other panel type

On 8/23/2021 at 2:33 PM, Mark Kaine said:

Having the PSU in the bottom unnecessarily heats up the case.

A PSU creates so little heat and most people put it on the bottom so its a enclosed thermal solution

On 8/23/2021 at 2:33 PM, Mark Kaine said:

Playing with higher fps than screen refresh rate does *not* make you a better gamer.

it can reduce latency

On 8/23/2021 at 2:33 PM, Mark Kaine said:

RAM speeds are overated,

they are not, I-GPUs need it, newer intel and all Zen chips love ram speed. doesn't matter if its desktop or sever, the bandwidth and latency helps

On 8/23/2021 at 2:33 PM, Mark Kaine said:

AIOs are useless.

They've got a point, good luck cooling a 300W+ CPU on air without having a jet engine on it

On 8/23/2021 at 2:33 PM, Mark Kaine said:

Elon Musk is a fraudster.

hes sketchy and done lots of questionable things

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7 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

you can just get ready to have a loud fan.
over 400Ws water cooling is needed for a normal sized CPU/GPU

 

No its got its advantages, good luck getting inky blacks and bright whites on any other panel type

A PSU creates so little heat and most people put it on the bottom so its a enclosed thermal solution

it can reduce latency

they are not, I-GPUs need it, newer intel and all Zen chips love ram speed. doesn't matter if its desktop or sever, the bandwidth and latency helps

They've got a point, good luck cooling a 300W+ CPU on air without having a jet engine on it

hes sketchy and done lots of questionable things

I agree with almost all of this.  I do think musk needs to be watched and his stuff not to be trusted purely because he is a proponent. I’m not sure “sketchy” and “a lot” are fully accurate though it may just be definition of terms.  I would say he has backed sketchy things and some of them have been more than questionable.  There is an element of sketchiness.  It’s a bit squishy.  “Fraudster” seems way over the top though. One can’t stand at the leading edge and not get things wrong.  He seems mostly up front when that happens though. 

Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

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58 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

good luck cooling a 300W+ CPU on air without having a jet engine on it

Pretty sure it would melt the entire thing instead of cooling it

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3 hours ago, Freakwise said:

Pretty sure it would melt the entire thing instead of cooling it

You can cool a whole lot with enough airflow.  Hellcat tank destroyers had air cooled engines. They had no top on their Coppola and fans so big and high speed it was almost impossible to talk inside one because of the constant whoosh of air but the things were unbelievably quick.

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11 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

You can cool a whole lot with enough airflow.  Hellcat tank destroyers had air cooled engines. They had no top on their Coppola and fans so big and high speed it was almost impossible to talk inside one because of the constant whoosh of air but the things were unbelievably quick.

I mean yeah that's true but jet engine especially a turbo jet, scram and ram jet do exhaust a pretty hot air

 

 

And yeah i know GDRRiley using a jet engine as term for very Loud fan, but still...

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5 minutes ago, Freakwise said:

I mean yeah that's true but jet engine especially a turbo jet, scram and ram jet do exhaust a pretty hot air

 

 

And yeah i know GDRRiley using a jet engine as term for very Loud fan, but still...

I agree that a turbofan of any kind wouldn’t make a good cooling fan because hot gasses.

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8 minutes ago, Mel0nMan said:

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/s I know neither of these is technically a turbofan

Neither is specifically a turbofan.  The top one is an electric ducted fan and the bottom one is an abomination of marketing over physics. Perhaps they are both that.  Refers to the methodology by which the engine is driven. A turboprop is a type of turbofan,  though I suppose it could also be referred to in the reverse.

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Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

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5 hours ago, Freakwise said:

Pretty sure it would melt the entire thing instead of cooling it

For some reason HP sold this heatsink on both of the z620 workstation's CPUs

See the source image

Got lots of heatpipes but both still run at 89c when rendering. General rule: when the cooler is less wide than the mounting hardware for a 135w server CPU, reconsider. 

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Just now, Bombastinator said:

Neither is specifically a turbofan.  Refers to the methodology by which the engine is driven. A turboprop is a type of turbofan,  though I suppose it could also be referred to in the reverse.

Yes, that's what the /s is for. True 'turbofans' are specifically combustion engines IIRC

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2 minutes ago, Mel0nMan said:

Yes, that's what the /s is for. True 'turbofans' are specifically combustion engines IIRC

There was a /s?  Missed it. Sorry.

Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

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4 minutes ago, Mel0nMan said:

Yeah, smallest possible font under the SpinQ picture. 

Heh.  It’s true they did both suck.

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Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

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7 hours ago, The_russian said:

I like the rumble effect when it’s used subtly and occasionally, but it seems to be overused, and the rubble is too strong, to the point it gets annoying. 

The motors are quite large, it's hard to do subtlety with them. I like the trigger rumbles in the Xbox controller and can occasionally provide information. The PS5 controller has transducers so it can be more detailed and subtle... but it's still pretty much the same.

 

7 hours ago, Bombastinator said:

I agree with almost all of this.  I do think musk needs to be watched and his stuff not to be trusted purely because he is a proponent. I’m not sure “sketchy” and “a lot” are fully accurate though it may just be definition of terms.  I would say he has backed sketchy things and some of them have been more than questionable.  There is an element of sketchiness.  It’s a bit squishy.  “Fraudster” seems way over the top though. One can’t stand at the leading edge and not get things wrong.  He seems mostly up front when that happens though. 

He's promised a lot of things and said a lot of stuff that never happened and weren't ever true. The entirety of Tesla and all of his promises made about it are a complete joke.

 

Not necessarily "tech" related, but I've heard a lot of people say that PC games aren't poorly optimized because they have graphics options. To which I'd like to point them towards Saints Row 2, GTA4, Arma 3, Batman Arkham Knight (I don't even care if it was caused by Denuvo) and to an extent Crysis (Since it was designed around dual core and not "multi-core"). Having people telling me a game that looks awful and runs poorly is just as well optimized as something like Destiny 2 which ran shockingly well on my system is infuriating.

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Even with the advancements and more newbie friendly distros, Linux will never be taken seriously. 

 

I wanted to give Linux a real go and had everything ready. Having to settle on Gimp instead of a better option like Paint Clip Studio was already a borderline deal breaker. Not being able to play the only game I've really been playing lately (Genshin Impact) without having to do a patch that could potentially get my account banned was the deal breaker. Not the fault of Linux because a lot of anti cheat systems are cancer that harms legit players more than punishes cheaters, but things like this are why we're just going to tolerate Microsoft for gaming. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Mooshi said:

Even with the advancements and more newbie friendly distros, Linux will never be taken seriously. 

 

I wanted to give Linux a real go and had everything ready. Having to settle on Gimp instead of a better option like Paint Clip Studio was already a borderline deal breaker. Not being able to play the only game I've really been playing lately (Genshin Impact) without having to do a patch that could potentially get my account banned was the deal breaker. Not the fault of Linux because a lot of anti cheat systems are cancer that harms legit players more than punishes cheaters, but things like this are why we're just going to tolerate Microsoft for gaming. 

I dunno.  It’s been pushing pretty far into a lot of different sectors.  It more or less owns IOT and really low end phones, it’s a major player in the server space.  The three places it hasn’t made inroads are gaming, home enthusiast, and office work.  It’s advantages seem to be low cost of entry and configurability.  Disadvantage is ease of use for general purpose stuff.  If the steamdeck takes off it could make inroads in one of those as well.  There’s a real IOT similarity with consoles.  Another oddity that recently came up is risc5 has apparently developed some CUDA compatibility.  Not sure how that one works myself, but risc5 is a very nonx86 thing. 

Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

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11 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

 and office work. 

it has taken a parts of office work, lots of European governments have moved to linux for the office work

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2 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

it has taken a parts of office work, lots of European governments have moved to linux for the office work

If there are people in large numbers using it for office work gaming will follow.  Might even be a clever move for valve to find out what apps they use and make sure some sort of “check the office” option is available on the steam deck.  Or better yet see if there are any European laws that would make the thing technically eligible for work subsidy if there is any.

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