The tech industry is losing patience with Microsoft over Windows 10 updates / Re-release of Win 10 v1809 still plagued with issues

[GoodBytes]

1 hour ago, captain_to_fire said:

Makes me wonder why Microsoft’s excellent precision drivers used by the Surface line aren’t standard to all PC OEMs? 

Because it needs high specs touch pad to start with, and some OEMs can't manage to fit that in the target price point. But you do have OEMs release some premium systems with it. They are not better than the Surface one sadly, but very good nonetheless. This is primarily because Apple and Microsoft makes their own trackpad. while OEMs uses pre-made solutions. So, they'll use :shrugs: Alps :oh god: trackpads, or Synaptic ones for example. And of course these manufacture have different models, some better than others at different price points. Same applies to touch screens, although OEMs don't tend to cheap out, probably because it is too visible when you do (not responsive, vibrating cursor, hit the wrong button that is next to the intended button that was tap on, etc.)

[Just Monika]

Each time I hear another Windows 10 update horror story, I make sure that my Windows Update service is set to Manual and not running. Thankfully, all is still good.

[ZacoAttaco]

49 minutes ago, Canada EH said:

Like restaurant workers, the cooks

 

special sauce

 

They probably use Windows Products for the printout thingy doodad.

 

Its best just to not update, let it slide for a month then update.

That's why it's funny that Windows updates always seem to be auto-starting randomly, sometimes the release is buggy so the user actually doesn't want to upgrade. They seem to have improved that now though.

[Salv8 (sam)]

12 hours ago, firelighter487 said:

it's still based on Wine. a lot of games don't work properly and as far as i know the one's that do work still have a big performance hit... 

this is a list of games that are officially compatible..

https://store.steampowered.com/curator/33483305-Proton-Compatible/

and even then many have gotten a load of non official games to work without mush hassle and problem

[Canada EH]

4 hours ago, ZacoAttaco said:

That's why it's funny that Windows updates always seem to be auto-starting randomly, sometimes the release is buggy so the user actually doesn't want to upgrade. They seem to have improved that now though.

There is a reason why Billy and team do that, they force you to update. I noticed how the first "bugs" set the security settings wide open, I do not think its a coincidence at all.

[sof006]

I see the issue of installing it onto certain laptops (upgrading) still occasionally kills peoples audio drivers and a reinstall of the audio drivers after the update is required. Appears to impact realtek audio chips and/or Intel HD Audio.

[ZacoAttaco]

2 hours ago, Canada EH said:

There is a reason why Billy and team do that, they force you to update. I noticed how the first "bugs" set the security settings wide open, I do not think its a coincidence at all.

If you're trying to say they reset/re-activate all the hidden monitoring systems then you're probably right. It's all about money.

[Canada EH]

1 minute ago, ZacoAttaco said:

It's all about money.

Always has been

Always will be

 

Greedy thats all it is

 

Bill and team seem to be scrambling, and not taking the time to care about what they put out.

[Doobeedoo]

Don't have this probelm, but critical work machines and so should postponed updates for a while in general. Consumer devices will be less proned to number of issues. 

But what MS said lately, they really need to work more on under the hood updateds. 

[Canada EH]

1 minute ago, Doobeedoo said:

they really need to work more on under the hood updateds. 

A lot of it is probably outsourced to cheapest bidder.

[Doobeedoo]

Just now, Canada EH said:

A lot of it is probably outsourced to cheapest bidder.

Hah, I get they like to put new features, some many don't need, some not finished, but they need o have optimization and bug fix updates more often along big update. 

[Canada EH]

1 minute ago, Doobeedoo said:

they need

needs

wants

 

ying and yang of life

 

they do what they do because of the workplace culture which boils down to human nature on the corporate scale.

 

keep doing what they are doing, because change is yukky and costs too much money in perception.

[1988fido]

and I was forced to update . it asked me to pick a time or restart now , it did update on its own  am scared for my device . at least luckily I have backups but still its a hassle to re do everything 

[asus killer]

windows 10 by Bethesda Software 

[Rune]

I'd love to download it if Windows didn't break its own updater a few months back.

[Doobeedoo]

3 hours ago, Canada EH said:

needs

wants

 

ying and yang of life

 

they do what they do because of the workplace culture which boils down to human nature on the corporate scale.

 

keep doing what they are doing, because change is yukky and costs too much money in perception.

Well for better long run they better start taking notes and improve their approach. Cause shit can just backfire. 

[corrado33]

*Goes to "updates and security"*

 

*Pause updates*

 

Click

[mlitttler89]

I'm really looking forward to building my first PC in a few weeks and installing...

 

 

*checks notes*

 

 

Windows XP.

[Ashleyyyy]

On 11/18/2018 at 2:53 AM, mrchow19910319 said:

high sierra is "okay" only. compares to the old days, it is not a stable version. 

i'm running High Sierra on a Late 2011 macbook pro.. one of the most unreliable laptops with an apple logo in the last few years. it has a ghetto at best fix for the gpu issues, it crashes when going to sleep and i have no brightness control anymore. 

 

despite of all that, i've never had apps crash on High Sierra. i've only had one time the OS borked itself, but i blame my gpu issue and the ghetto fix for it. also i didn't pay attention to it. i set it to update and then walked away. i clean installed the OS and then installed the same update as far as i know, and it's been fine. 

[Kirrr]

Updated as soon as the update was available in october. Never have a single issue since then.

[JoeCoke]

oops, wrong thread, mods delete this :I

[Danielx64]

On 11/18/2018 at 9:08 PM, sof006 said:

I see the issue of installing it onto certain laptops (upgrading) still occasionally kills peoples audio drivers and a reinstall of the audio drivers after the update is required. Appears to impact realtek audio chips and/or Intel HD Audio.

I seen the same happen with HP desktops/laptops with the graphic drivers.

[williamcll]

Funny enough even when 1809 was available last time I could not download it in Hong Kong

[mr moose]

I'm buying a tatts ticket.  I have auto updates all set to recommended, I power cycle my pc regularly and as a result windows knows when to update so it doesn't need to force a restart.  I haven't had any of the problems I keep hearing are so common.  I think in the last 3 years I have had one restart that took a while to update when I needed the PC.   Given how the internet carries on you be forgiven for thinking everyone suffers these problems.

[sof006]

3 hours ago, Danielx64 said:

I seen the same happen with HP desktops/laptops with the graphic drivers.

Yup, no good!