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Hello guys,

 

Im looking to build a computer for my father, he have a 1000e budget and we are located in Belgium, he play mostly WoW but he like to use some Adobe software to edit his personnal pictures. He is kinda old school in term of component, he believes that intel is a must as a cpu and nvidia as a gpu. He play in 1080p but want update his screen top 1440p in 120hz both. He doesnt care about the look of the case so no need to have some RGB or other the case will not be visible anyway. We have both knowledge to build a pc but he would prefer to be prebuild but I didnt find anything very good as price/quality ratio. If you know any sellers with these condition please let me know.

 

After some research for some parts I did this configuration :

https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/CnCGFs

 

Let me know how i can update it or if you have any other suggestion I'm open to anything, I'm not very sure about the cooling side I feel like it can be very hot with this CPU.

 

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5 minutes ago, cooler53 said:

Hello guys,

 

Im looking to build a computer for my father, he have a 1000e budget and we are located in Belgium, he play mostly WoW but he like to use some Adobe software to edit his personnal pictures. He is kinda old school in term of component, he believes that intel is a must as a cpu and nvidia as a gpu. He play in 1080p but want update his screen top 1440p in 120hz both. He doesnt care about the look of the case so no need to have some RGB or other the case will not be visible anyway. We have both knowledge to build a pc but he would prefer to be prebuild but I didnt find anything very good as price/quality ratio. If you know any sellers with these condition please let me know.

 

After some research for some parts I did this configuration :

https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/CnCGFs

 

Let me know how i can update it or if you have any other suggestion I'm open to anything, I'm not very sure about the cooling side I feel like it can be very hot with this CPU.

 

whats current PC your father is using, new PC with 3060 sounds bad. Maybe Don't upgrade GPU and do when theres more money for that, maybe use old case.

PCPartPicker Part List: https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/YpMLN6

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€194.90 @ Azerty)
Motherboard: ASRock B650M PG Lightning Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€123.85 @ Megekko)
Memory: Patriot Viper Venom 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  (€101.85 @ Megekko)
Storage: Kingston NV2 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€64.90 @ Amazon Belgium)
Video Card: Asus DUAL OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card  (€569.00 @ Amazon Belgium)
Case: Montech X3 Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case  (€60.16 @ Azerty)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€114.90 @ Amazon Belgium)
Total: €1229.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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4070 for 100$ more, gaming performance should be the same.

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DDR5-5200 CL36 is pretty slow. You want DDR5-6000 CL30. 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-12600KF 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor  (€178.85 @ Azerty) 
CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€49.99 @ Amazon Belgium) 
Motherboard: *MSI PRO B760-P DDR4 II ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€128.66 @ Amazon Belgium) 
Memory: *G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€69.90 @ Amazon Belgium) 
Storage: *Lexar NM710 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€68.16 @ Azerty) 
Video Card: *MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ventus 2X 12G GeForce RTX 3060 12GB 12 GB Video Card  (€279.00 @ Amazon Belgium) 
Case: *Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case  (€67.88 @ Amazon Belgium) 
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€93.00 @ Amazon Belgium) 
Total: €935.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
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2 minutes ago, Likwid said:

whats current PC your father is using, new PC with 3060 sounds bad. Maybe Don't upgrade GPU and do when theres more money for that, maybe use old case.

PCPartPicker Part List: https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/YpMLN6

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€194.90 @ Azerty)
Motherboard: ASRock B650M PG Lightning Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€123.85 @ Megekko)
Memory: Patriot Viper Venom 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory  (€101.85 @ Megekko)
Storage: Kingston NV2 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€64.90 @ Amazon Belgium)
Video Card: Asus DUAL OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card  (€569.00 @ Amazon Belgium)
Case: Montech X3 Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case  (€60.16 @ Azerty)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€114.90 @ Amazon Belgium)
Total: €1229.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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4070 for 100$ more, gaming performance should be the same.

he has like a prebuild pc with a 1060, he always take the worst pc and let my siblings have new pc so yeah big upgrade for him, and also i have an old case I think that can match this configuration.

I like it tho but he thinks that ryzen cpu sucks... I will try to convice him !!

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12 minutes ago, Why_Me said:

DDR5-5200 CL36 is pretty slow. You want DDR5-6000 CL30. 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-12600KF 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor  (€178.85 @ Azerty) 
CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€49.99 @ Amazon Belgium) 
Motherboard: *MSI PRO B760-P DDR4 II ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€128.66 @ Amazon Belgium) 
Memory: *G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€69.90 @ Amazon Belgium) 
Storage: *Lexar NM710 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€68.16 @ Azerty) 
Video Card: *MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ventus 2X 12G GeForce RTX 3060 12GB 12 GB Video Card  (€279.00 @ Amazon Belgium) 
Case: *Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case  (€67.88 @ Amazon Belgium) 
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€93.00 @ Amazon Belgium) 
Total: €935.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-05 13:46 CEST+0200

 

The price can be around 1000e so 1100 is fine, i tried this from your feedback, is it ok ?

 

https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/jh86fy

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51 minutes ago, cooler53 said:

intel is a must as a cpu and nvidia as a gpu

why intel and nvidia?

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Just now, podkall said:

why intel and nvidia?

he just prefer these two lol 

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6 minutes ago, cooler53 said:

he just prefer these two lol 

yeah, cuz AMD can be more efficient, even though you might get less cores in the end,

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€194.90 @ Azerty)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK400 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler  (€34.93 @ Amazon Belgium)
Motherboard: *Gigabyte B650M D3HP Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€119.26 @ Azerty)
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€122.75 @ Amazon Belgium)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN580 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€72.85 @ Megekko)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ventus 2X 12G GeForce RTX 3060 12GB 12 GB Video Card  (€279.00 @ Amazon Belgium)
Case: Montech X3 Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case  (€60.16 @ Azerty)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€93.00 @ Amazon Belgium)
Total: €976.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-05 14:35 CEST+0200

 

And then you get faster GPU and slightly better MB:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€194.90 @ Azerty)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK400 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler  (€34.93 @ Amazon Belgium)
Motherboard: ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€132.26 @ Azerty)
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€122.75 @ Amazon Belgium)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN580 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€72.85 @ Megekko)
Video Card: *PowerColor Fighter Radeon RX 7600 XT 16 GB Video Card  (€348.95 @ Megekko)
Case: Montech X3 Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case  (€60.16 @ Azerty)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€93.00 @ Amazon Belgium)
Total: €1059.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-05 14:38 CEST+0200

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PC:

Ryzen 5 5600 |16GB DDR4 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti

PCs I used before:

Pentium G4500 | 4GB/8GB DDR4 2133Mhz | H110 | GTX 1050

Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050

Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz | 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti

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44 minutes ago, cooler53 said:

I like it tho but he thinks that ryzen cpu sucks...

why does he think that?

 

ryzen is pretty strong for gaming, and could even go for productivity, the Intel's only advantage price to price is core count and even then you're sometimes just saving seconds if your workload doesn't demand powerful CPU with many cores.

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Ryzen 5 5600 |16GB DDR4 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti

PCs I used before:

Pentium G4500 | 4GB/8GB DDR4 2133Mhz | H110 | GTX 1050

Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050

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3060 just is a slow gpu for new builds. 4070 or 7800xt are about 100% faster. The budget is in bit of a tough spot because you have to really compromise either the cpu or gpu. 12400f is ok but spending that 100€ more towards ryzen 7600 would mean a faster cpu and an easy upgrade path too.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€129.90 @ Amazon Belgium)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin Spirit 120 EVO 68.9 CFM CPU Cooler  (€20.18 @ Amazon Belgium)
Motherboard: ASRock B660M Pro RS Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€113.85 @ Megekko)
Memory: Lexar THOR 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€58.22 @ Amazon Belgium)
Storage: *Lexar NM710 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€68.16 @ Azerty)
Video Card: Asus DUAL OC GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card  (€569.00 @ Amazon Belgium)
Case: Montech X3 Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case  (€58.11 @ Azerty)
Power Supply: MSI MPG A650GF 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€84.99 @ Amazon Belgium)
Total: €1102.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
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21 minutes ago, Jeppes said:

12400f

why downgrade to 5600 speed equivalent CPU in the first place?

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Pentium G4500 | 4GB/8GB DDR4 2133Mhz | H110 | GTX 1050

Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050

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17 hours ago, Likwid said:


4070 for 100$ more, gaming performance should be the same.

Still would push for this one, 100 Eur more, but you get almost 2x fps in any game. Okey if you don't want to go with amd you still need to choose 4070 as the gpu, or buy used GPU.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eyuukli2epw

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On 5/5/2024 at 4:08 PM, podkall said:

why downgrade to 5600 speed equivalent CPU in the first place?

Because its still better than 7600 and a 50% slower gpu.

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1 hour ago, Jeppes said:

Because its still better than 7600 and a 50% slower gpu.

better? u joking right?

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Ryzen 5 5600 |16GB DDR4 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti

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Pentium G4500 | 4GB/8GB DDR4 2133Mhz | H110 | GTX 1050

Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050

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11 minutes ago, Jeppes said:

Yes it will run games better. Its a bit hard to see a gap between cpu:s if your gpu is a 3060. Heck, the gap with a 3080 1440p is under 5% in techpowerup review. So the faster gpu will give almost a +100% in performance.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-5-7600-non-x/20.html

but you're saying that 12400F is better than 7600, that's just wrong.

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PC:

Ryzen 5 5600 |16GB DDR4 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti

PCs I used before:

Pentium G4500 | 4GB/8GB DDR4 2133Mhz | H110 | GTX 1050

Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050

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On 5/5/2024 at 12:34 PM, cooler53 said:

Hello guys,

 

Im looking to build a computer for my father, he have a 1000e budget and we are located in Belgium, he play mostly WoW but he like to use some Adobe software to edit his personnal pictures. He is kinda old school in term of component, he believes that intel is a must as a cpu and nvidia as a gpu. He play in 1080p but want update his screen top 1440p in 120hz both. He doesnt care about the look of the case so no need to have some RGB or other the case will not be visible anyway. We have both knowledge to build a pc but he would prefer to be prebuild but I didnt find anything very good as price/quality ratio. If you know any sellers with these condition please let me know.

 

After some research for some parts I did this configuration :

https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/CnCGFs

 

Let me know how i can update it or if you have any other suggestion I'm open to anything, I'm not very sure about the cooling side I feel like it can be very hot with this CPU.

 

Get a 7500F and an rx 6800

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Phantom Spirit 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (€42.90 @ Amazon Belgium) 
Motherboard: *ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€132.26 @ Azerty) 
Memory: *Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (€122.75 @ Amazon Belgium) 
Storage: *Lexar NM620 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€63.16 @ Azerty) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card  (€403.00 @ Amazon Belgium) 
Case: *Phanteks XT PRO ATX Mid Tower Case  (€59.90 @ Amazon Belgium) 
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€62.89 @ Amazon Belgium) 
Custom: 7500F (€176.00)
Total: €1062.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-06 20:46 CEST+0200

9 minutes ago, podkall said:

but you're saying that 12400F is better than 7600, that's just wrong.

I think they meant that with the 12400f you can get a better gpu meaning more performance, which isn't wrong. Though AM5 has got a better upgrade path

Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help 

 

Current parts list: 

CPU: R5 5600 CPU Cooler: Stock

Mobo: Asrock B550M-ITX/ac

RAM: Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3200mhz Cl16

SSD: P5 Plus 500GB Secondary SSD: Kingston A400 960GB

GPU: MSI RTX 3060 Gaming X

Fans: 1x Noctua NF-P12 Redux, 1x Arctic P12, 1x Corsair LL120

PSU: NZXT SP-650M SFX-L PSU from H1

Monitor: Samsung WQHD 34 inch and 43 inch TV

Mouse: Logitech G203

Keyboard: Rii membrane keyboard

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

Damn this space can fit a 4090 (just kidding)

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32 minutes ago, filpo said:

I think they meant that with the 12400f you can get a better gpu meaning more performance, which isn't wrong. Though AM5 has got a better upgrade path

which is why I'd recommend  5 7600 + 7600 XT over 3060

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PC:

Ryzen 5 5600 |16GB DDR4 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti

PCs I used before:

Pentium G4500 | 4GB/8GB DDR4 2133Mhz | H110 | GTX 1050

Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050

Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz | 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti

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1 hour ago, podkall said:

which is why I'd recommend  5 7600 + 7600 XT over 3060

Good point, I only saw your first list 🙏

Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help 

 

Current parts list: 

CPU: R5 5600 CPU Cooler: Stock

Mobo: Asrock B550M-ITX/ac

RAM: Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3200mhz Cl16

SSD: P5 Plus 500GB Secondary SSD: Kingston A400 960GB

GPU: MSI RTX 3060 Gaming X

Fans: 1x Noctua NF-P12 Redux, 1x Arctic P12, 1x Corsair LL120

PSU: NZXT SP-650M SFX-L PSU from H1

Monitor: Samsung WQHD 34 inch and 43 inch TV

Mouse: Logitech G203

Keyboard: Rii membrane keyboard

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

Damn this space can fit a 4090 (just kidding)

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