Huawei Passes Apple in Smartphone Share for the First Time

[ItsMitch]

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Chinese company Huawei has passed Apple in smartphone share for the first time, making it the world's second biggest maker of smartphones globally. 

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Huawei shipped 54.2 million phones in the quarter, 41 percent more than a year earlier, to jump ahead of the iPhone maker for the first time, according to market research firm IDC. The telecoms giant accounted for 16 percent of the market, compared with 21 percent for South Korea’s Samsung and 12 percent for Apple. Xiaomi Corp. and Oppo, both based in China, rounded out the top five.

 

Chinese smartphone makers have been gaining influence as their domestic market grows and they expand abroad. Huawei has pushed into Europe and Africa, though it’s failed to crack the massive U.S. market. Apple tends to sell iPhones

at higher prices than its rivals and profits from services like iTunes, which helped it top earnings estimates for the quarter.

 

“The importance of Huawei overtaking Apple this quarter cannot be overstated,” said Ben Stanton, a senior analyst at Canalys, which also reported the shift in quarterly market share. “It is the first time in seven years that Samsung and Apple have not held the top two positions. Huawei’s exclusion from the U.S. has forced it to work harder in Asia and Europe to achieve its goals.”

Fairly impressive that they was able to beat out such a giant like Apple and reclaim it's number 2 spot, now it just needs to aim to beat out Samsung (GL) at the number one spot on the leaderboards. 

 

(still editin this stuff) 

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

Nice, glad to see the cancer of the tech world knocked down a peg

 

also // @DrMacintosh //

[ItsMitch]

2 minutes ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

Nice, glad to see the cancer of the tech world knocked down a peg

 

also // @DrMacintosh //

Oh no, he'll be very upset now!

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

1 minute ago, SC2Mitch said:

Oh no, he'll be very upset now!

that's the joke

 

/s

[DrMacintosh]

I would argue that the significance of them overtaking Apple in Marketshare is being greatly overstated. 

 

So they have more units sold, and what do they have to show for it? 

 

Here is a dose of reality:

Profit>Marketshare

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

9 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Here is a dose of reality:

Profit>Marketshare

Userbase --> Brand Loyalty --> More sales over time (that is unless you decide to remove essential features @apple)

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

Userbase --> Brand Loyalty --> More sales over time

Sure, that is certainly a possibility. But we can give Huawei credit for those things once Apple stops making essentially all the money in the industry and Huawei breaks out of China and gets significant shares in other countries. 

 

 

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

Sure, that is certainly a possibility. But we can give Huawei credit for those things once Apple stops making essentially all the money in the industry and Huawei breaks out of China and gets significant shares in other countries. 

 

 

Huawei has already made inroads in North America under the Honor brand especially in the budget market

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

Huawei has already made inroads in North America under the Honor brand especially in the budget market

Inroads are a lot different than convincing regualar people outside of China to buy something other than Samsung or Apple. 

 

It will be some time before the average person will stand in line for the next Huawei flagship. 

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

Inroads are a lot different than convincing regualar people outside of China to buy something other than Samsung or Apple. 

 

It will be some time before the average person will stand in line for the next Huawei flagship. 

When Apple launched the iPhone it was a few years before they got their swarm of zealous followers *cough /\ cough*

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

When Apple launched the iPhone it was a few years before they got their swarm of zealous followers *cough /\ cough*

Of course, it takes time to build a brand and create a user base that loves your products. 

 

I’m not saying that Huawei can’t do that, but simply shipping a lot of phones is a far cry from accomplishing what a company like Apple has done. 

[IAnthonyFX]

6 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Inroads are a lot different than convincing regualar people outside of China to buy something other than Samsung or Apple. 

 

It will be some time before the average person will stand in line for the next Huawei flagship. 

you can bet huawei has taken over south america when it comes to brand royalty. I still remeber a few years ago was considered as another chinesse phone, and people would go with their S4 or an iphone. Meanwhile now, people love their huawei p20

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, IAnthonyFX said:

you can bet huawei has taken over south america when it comes to brand royalty. I still remeber a few years ago was considered as another chinesse phone, and people would go with their S4 or an iphone. Meanwhile now, people love their huawei p20

I think the argument of who has more brand loyalty is really just trying to fuel a flame war. 

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

2 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

accomplishing what a company like Apple has done. 

Removing essential features and upping the price of your products while not improving them compared to the competition?

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

Removing essential features and upping the price of your products while not improving them compared to the competition?

I was thinking more along the lines of essentially eventing a few categories and setting industry wide trends and innovations that have made smartphones are great as they are today. Regardless of how you feel about them. 

[Clanscorpia]

1 minute ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

Removing essential features and upping the price of your products while not improving them compared to the competition?

Become the first company in the world to be worth a trillion dollars, which while it hasnt happened yet is certainly going to happen in under a year

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

1 minute ago, Clanscorpia said:

Become the first company in the world to be worth a trillion dollars, which while it hasnt happened yet is certainly going to happen in under a year

I mean they've basically founded a religion at this point and you know how rich some of those are

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

2 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

I was thinking more along the lines of essentially eventing a few categories and setting industry wide trends and innovations that have made smartphones are great as they are today. Regardless of how you feel about them. 

I'd argue that Android is what made smartphones great since it made them cheap. Before Android became widespread smartphones were a novelty for the upper middle class and the rich even in the developed world but Android made smartphones available to the developing world (where most of the world's population lives, much as Americans might like to ignore it)

[Guest]

20 minutes ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

Huawei has already made inroads in North America under the Honor brand especially in the budget market

They've really been looking into the US market, spying it up.

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

1 minute ago, RorzNZ said:

They've really been looking into the US market, spying it up.

The Huawei P20 allowed them to break into the high end Android market as well

[IAnthonyFX]

 

 

6 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

I think the argument of who has more brand loyalty is really just trying to fuel a flame war. 

My point isn't that huawei has the most brand loyalty. My point is that people in countries like Peru, Argentina and Chile are looking at more budget oriented devices that do not skim so much on features or warranty and Huawei is doing it quite well there. Tho xiomi its doing its thing, but warranty is still an issue. 

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

I'd argue that Android is what made smartphones great since it made them cheap

That is certainly an interesting perspective to take. I personally don't equate making something a commodity as making it "great."  

[givingtnt]

Nice.

[DrMacintosh]

2 minutes ago, IAnthonyFX said:

 

 

My point isn't that huawei has the most brand loyalty. My point is that people in countries like Peru, Argentina and Chile are looking at more budget oriented devices that do not skim so much on features or warranty and Huawei is doing it quite well there. Tho xiomi its doing its thing, but warranty is still an issue. 

And that is the problem. If Huawei can only appeal to small markets with very little profit to be had in them, then they might ship a lot of units, but they won't be making a lot of money while doing it. 

[Guest]

Just now, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

The Huawei P20 allowed them to break into the high end Android market as well

I'm making a joke because it's alleged the Chinese government use ZTE and Huawei phones to spy on the user. 

They are really great phones though, just have to handle them carefully like any other phone and they will last a while. Hard to find places to repair them though.