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People who hate notches and rounded corners are just stupid.

avg123
By avg123
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1. Rounded corners.

 

People complain that rounded corners crops the corners of videos and distorts it.

 

a. 16:9, 16:10, 4:3 videos are all pillar boxed on these displays, so the video never reaches the rounded corners anyways.

 

b. 2.35:1 videos are letter boxed, so again, the videos don't reach the rounded corners.

 

c. The only way to reach the rounded corners is to crop the video to fill up the screen. But at that point, you are cropping the video anyways, so why would it matter if the corners got cropped too?

 

2. Notch

 

The notch actually increases the display size rather than decrease it.

 

Take the upcoming 6.5 inch iphone for example.

 

It will have a 6.5 inch 19.5:9 aspect ratio screen.

 

But if you disregard the screen beside the notch, it actually has a 6.1 inch 18:9 screen, same as any modern smartphone.

What the iphone does is remove the top bezel as much as possible, to get the notch.

 

So you get extra screen with the notch

 

 

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People have to complain to complain. I got the iPhone X and I actually prefer to have the extra screen around the notch instead of having a fat chin or forehead bar if you wanna call it that. Devs know about safe spaces and work around it or with it. When you watch a 21:9 movie and it's fullscreen the amount of content in the very far right or left is nothing, that's not have framing works in movies.

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4 minutes ago, avg123 said:

1. Rounded corners.

 

People complain that rounded corners crops the corners of videos and distorts it.

 

a. 16:9, 16:10, 4:3 videos are all pillar boxed on these displays, so the video never reaches the rounded corners anyways.

 

b. 2.35:1 videos are letter boxed, so again, the videos don't reach the rounded corners.

 

c. The only way to reach the rounded corners is to crop the video to fill up the screen. But at that point, you are cropping the video anyways, so why would it matter if the corners got cropped too?

 

2. Notch

 

The notch actually increases the display size rather than decrease it.

 

Take the upcoming 6.5 inch iphone for example.

 

It will have a 6.5 inch 19.5:9 aspect ratio screen.

 

But if you disregard the screen beside the notch, it actually has a 6.1 inch 18:9 screen, same as any modern smartphone.

What the iphone does is remove the top bezel as much as possible, to get the notch.

 

So you get extra screen with the notch

 

 

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7 minutes ago, avg123 said:

The notch actually increases the display size rather than decrease it.

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The notch makes the iPhone X look ugly because of asymmetry alone. Just saying. :P 

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The problem is that notch beaks symmetry. Don’t you have any standards of beauty? 

 

Symmetry=beautiful

not symmetrical= ugliness

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because all the phones without notches have perfectly symmetrical top and bottom bezels right? 9_9

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I know the notch adds to the screen real estate but I really really hate it. Not only because it's an apple thing but also because it looks butt ugly. 

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The big screens, at least on Android, we barely even benefit from because barely anything uses the aspect ratio. 

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People will still see it as space that's lost and could've been used.

 

It's similar to why some people think up-scaling the GUI on a high PPI monitor is stupid. Not because the OS doesn't do it right, but because increasing screen resolution has always been in these people's minds as increasing the working space as well. Why buy a 4K monitor if your working space is stuck at the equivalent of 1440p or 1080p?

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Just saying, I could care less about screen spec. Yes it is what I will be looking at 99% of the time, but I'm not one to judge a company based solely on the screens they've chosen to use for their devices. It's a lot deeper than that.

 

I also disagree with hating people because your opinion on screen real estate is what you feel should suit everyone including you.

 

My opinion has always been, and will always be: There are different devices for different people, no one device will suit everyone's needs, but the majority of people who use said device will use it because it suits them to the majority of what they use it for.

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Let the buying market decide?  For me personally, I am not a fan of the notch.  It is like a table that wobbles.  You have to spend extra time working around it.  It messes with the screen symmetrical, and reduces the screen side area you can touch without worrying about smudging the display.  

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38 minutes ago, avg123 said:

People who hate notches and rounded corners are just stupid.

People who hate other people for their preferences are....... well lets say they aren't spending their time wisely.

As for rounded and notched screens , I dislike them because the bezel has to cover a few pixels to achieve this. To have pixels that are running under a bezel but not being seen is annoying to me.

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I'm pretty neutral about the whole rounded corners thing, but the only reason why I mildly dislike the iPhone X notch is that it breaks symmetry and leaves this very awkward blank space when watching media (although of course that can be hidden away by resizing the video to 16:9).

 

Ultimately though, why I absolutely hate The Notch is not because of any technical reason, but because the industry always seem to imitate Apple's footsteps.

 

Freedom of choice is always nice, but why do big manufacturers like Asus find the need to add a notch to their phones immediately after Apple releases the iPhone X?

The Essential Phone was released before the X, and it had also had a notch, but now that Apple has released a phone with a notch everyone scrambles to make something similar, for seemingly literally no other reason than "Apple did it".

We've been asking for other better features for ages (give us better battery life and cameras); but no, all those features must take the back seat, the most important thing is that Apple has released a thing and we must do the same.

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My opinion has always been, and will always be: There are different devices for different people, no one device will suit everyone's needs, but the majority of people who use said device will use it because it suits them to the majority of what they use it for.

The problem is when everyone starts doing that feature without offering a comparable alternative and for no reason other than, allegedly, because someone big is doing it, then it's sort of forcing people to go outside of their preference or go with something that is probably going to be worse.

 

Example: I want a high end smartphone. I don't want a notch. They all have notches. So where's my choice now? Oh, I have to not get a high-end smart phone?

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The notch actually increases the display size rather than decrease it.

Tell that to Samsung, who has a higher screen to body ratio with the S8 and S9 than notched phones that are out now.

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The notch makes the iPhone X look ugly because of asymmetry alone. Just saying. :P 

It is perfectly horizontally symmetrical, but if you are talking vertica symmetry no iphone has ever been verttically symmetrical, only phone to do that was samsung and a few other androids

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1 hour ago, The Blackhat said:

It is perfectly horizontally symmetrical, but if you are talking vertica symmetry no iphone has ever been verttically symmetrical, only phone to do that was samsung and a few other androids

It doesn't have to be perfectly symmetrical. There's are reason why the S8 and S9's top sensors and cameras are blacked out. 

 

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It doesn't have to be perfectly symmetrical. There's are reason why the S8 and S9's top sensors and cameras are blacked out. 

 

There's a reason why most people prefer sporty looking cars over say the Fiat Multipla. That's just how the human brain works. 

Ive never liked phones with the tiniest bezels possible, and symmetry is unimportant, I love my 7+ because the bezels are huge, and when I put a beefy case on it, I know that there is practically zero chance of it breaking

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2 hours ago, The Blackhat said:

Ive never liked phones with the tiniest bezels possible, and symmetry is unimportant, I love my 7+ because the bezels are huge, and when I put a beefy case on it, I know that there is practically zero chance of it breaking

That's the polar opposite of what I like so yeah one opinion cannot apply to everyone since aesthetics is so subjective 

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Old format better 16:9 + bezels forever!!!

Lake-V-X6-10600 (Gaming PC)

R23 score MC: 9190pts | R23 score SC: 1302pts

R20 score MC: 3529cb | R20 score SC: 506cb

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Case: Cooler Master HAF XB Evo Black / Case Fan(s) Front: Noctua NF-A14 ULN 140mm Premium Fans / Case Fan(s) Rear: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (red) / Case Fan(s) Side: Noctua NF-A6x25 FLX 60mm Premium Fan / Controller: Sony Dualshock 4 Wireless (DS4Windows) / Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo / CPU: Intel Core i5-10600, 6-cores, 12-threads, 4.4/4.8GHz, 13,5MB cache (Intel 14nm++ FinFET) / Display: ASUS 24" LED VN247H (67Hz OC) 1920x1080p / GPU: Gigabyte Radeon RX Vega 56 Gaming OC @1501MHz (Samsung 14nm FinFET) / Keyboard: Logitech Desktop K120 (Nordic) / Motherboard: ASUS PRIME B460 PLUS, Socket-LGA1200 / Mouse: Razer Abyssus 2014 / PCI-E: ASRock USB 3.1/A+C (PCI Express x4) / PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2, 850W / RAM A1, A2, B1 & B2: DDR4-2666MHz CL13-15-15-15-35-1T "Samsung 8Gbit C-Die" (4x8GB) / Operating System: Windows 10 Home / Sound: Zombee Z300 / Storage 1 & 2: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD / Storage 3: Seagate® Barracuda 2TB HDD / Storage 4: Seagate® Desktop 2TB SSHD / Storage 5: Crucial P1 1000GB M.2 SSD/ Storage 6: Western Digital WD7500BPKX 2.5" HDD / Wi-fi: TP-Link TL-WN851N 11n Wireless Adapter (Qualcomm Atheros)

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R23 score MC: 9893pts | R23 score SC: 1248pts @4.2GHz

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Case: Medion Micro-ATX Case / Case Fan Front: SUNON MagLev PF70251VX-Q000-S99 70mm / Case Fan Rear: Fanner Tech(Shen Zhen)Co.,LTD. 80mm (Purple) / Controller: Sony Dualshock 4 Wireless (DS4Windows) / Cooler: AMD Near-silent 125w Thermal Solution / CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600, 6-cores, 12-threads, 4.2/4.2GHz, 35MB cache (T.S.M.C. 7nm FinFET) / Display: HP 24" L2445w (64Hz OC) 1920x1200 / GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GD5 OC "Afterburner" @1450MHz (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / GPU: ASUS Radeon RX 6600 XT DUAL OC RDNA2 32CUs @2607MHz (T.S.M.C. 7nm FinFET) / Keyboard: HP KB-0316 PS/2 (Nordic) / Motherboard: ASRock B450M Pro4, Socket-AM4 / Mouse: Razer Abyssus 2014 / PCI-E: ASRock USB 3.1/A+C (PCI Express x4) / PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2, 550W / RAM A2 & B2: DDR4-3600MHz CL16-18-8-19-37-1T "SK Hynix 8Gbit CJR" (2x16GB) / Operating System: Windows 10 Home / Sound 1: Zombee Z500 / Sound 2: Logitech Stereo Speakers S-150 / Storage 1 & 2: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD / Storage 3: Western Digital My Passport 2.5" 2TB HDD / Storage 4: Western Digital Elements Desktop 2TB HDD / Storage 5: Kingston A2000 1TB M.2 NVME SSD / Wi-fi & Bluetooth: ASUS PCE-AC55BT Wireless Adapter (Intel)

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Case: Cooler Master HAF XB Evo Black / Case Fan(s) Front: Noctua NF-A14 ULN 140mm Premium Fans / Case Fan(s) Rear: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (red) / Case Fan(s) Side: Noctua NF-A6x25 FLX 60mm Premium Fan / Case Fan VRM: SUNON MagLev KDE1209PTV3 92mm / Controller: Sony Dualshock 4 Wireless (DS4Windows) / Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo / CPU: AMD FX-8370 (Base: @4.4GHz | Turbo: @4.7GHz) Black Edition Eight-Core (Global Foundries 32nm) / Display: ASUS 24" LED VN247H (67Hz OC) 1920x1080p / GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GD5 OC "Afterburner" @1450MHz (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / GPU: Gigabyte Radeon RX Vega 56 Gaming OC @1501MHz (Samsung 14nm FinFET) / Keyboard: Logitech Desktop K120 (Nordic) / Motherboard: MSI 970 GAMING, Socket-AM3+ / Mouse: Razer Abyssus 2014 / PCI-E: ASRock USB 3.1/A+C (PCI Express x4) / PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2, 850W PSU / RAM 1, 2, 3 & 4: Corsair Vengeance DDR3-1866MHz CL8-10-10-28-37-2T (4x4GB) 16.38GB / Operating System 1: Windows 10 Home / Sound: Zombee Z300 / Storage 1: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD (x2) / Storage 2: Seagate® Barracuda 2TB HDD / Storage 3: Seagate® Desktop 2TB SSHD / Wi-fi: TP-Link TL-WN951N 11n Wireless Adapter

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Complete portable device SoC history:

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Apple A4 - Apple iPod touch (4th generation)
Apple A5 - Apple iPod touch (5th generation)
Apple A9 - Apple iPhone 6s Plus
HiSilicon Kirin 810 (T.S.M.C. 7nm) - Huawei P40 Lite / Huawei nova 7i
Mediatek MT2601 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - TicWatch E
Mediatek MT6580 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - TECNO Spark 2 (1GB RAM)
Mediatek MT6592M (T.S.M.C 28nm) - my|phone my32 (orange)
Mediatek MT6592M (T.S.M.C 28nm) - my|phone my32 (yellow)
Mediatek MT6735 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - HMD Nokia 3 Dual SIM
Mediatek MT6737 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - Cherry Mobile Flare S6
Mediatek MT6739 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - my|phone myX8 (blue)
Mediatek MT6739 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - my|phone myX8 (gold)
Mediatek MT6750 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - honor 6C Pro / honor V9 Play
Mediatek MT6765 (T.S.M.C 12nm) - TECNO Pouvoir 3 Plus
Mediatek MT6797D (T.S.M.C 20nm) - my|phone Brown Tab 1
Qualcomm MSM8926 (T.S.M.C. 28nm) - Microsoft Lumia 640 LTE
Qualcomm MSM8974AA (T.S.M.C. 28nm) - Blackberry Passport
Qualcomm SDM710 (Samsung 10nm) - Oppo Realme 3 Pro

 

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6 hours ago, avg123 said:

2. Notch

The notch actually increases the display size rather than decrease it.

By your logic and a quickly drawn image, screen 1 is better than screen 2

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The problem with your theory is while the volume might be larger, the notch out of the middle is not usable. if watching a movie you'll get extra screen space on either side of the notch, but the space in between will be missing information, therefore it's not helping. The form factor of almost all media content is a rectangle, not a rectangle with two addons at the side, so your USABLE screen size hasn't changed any. 

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Is this another case of my opinion being more valid than yours?

 

 

Grammar and spelling is not indicative of intelligence/knowledge.  Not having the same opinion does not always mean lack of understanding.  

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I don't see how this is a big enough of a deal to start a thread on. It's all just preferences =/

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