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[Lightwreather]

1 hour ago, Gorgon said:

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Thank you so much. Now I can finally monitor the mecenary systems.

[Gorgon]

11 minutes ago, J-from-Nucleon said:

Thank you so much. Now I can finally monitor the mecenary systems.

It will only work for one at a time though as the web-client connects only to a single port. You can modify the url and port-forward for a non-standard port but it will only work with a browser using the localhost address (https://127.0.0.1:7391) and NOT the LAR extension.

 

If you want to monitor multiple systems that are external or a mix of local and remote systems then it is likely best to use Advanced Control or HfM and port-forward (Tunnel) the standard port (36330) of the remote systems to individual local ports to monitor.

[gunnarre]

On 6/4/2022 at 6:01 PM, Gorgon said:

Forward the F@H web port (7396) via SSH to a Windows system and then run the Browser with extension on Windows.

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Works like a charm. I can see the web client using the default URL. You just have to make sure that if Advanced Control is installed on the Windows System that it is NOT running.

I've had the problem that the LAR dark mode Chrome extension reports the CPU data of the local system, not the server, when you do it like this. So if I were to do it from a Mac, it would report that it's folding with a GTX 1660 Super on a Mac with an i5-4278U CPU feeding it, rather than the Ryzen 5 3600 which is actually in the server. This is talked about a bit here:  "F@H Web Client Dark Skin with PPD comparison by GPU / WU" comment 15375038

Does it report your data as folding on Windows when you do it like this?

[Gorgon]

14 hours ago, gunnarre said:

I've had the problem that the LAR dark mode Chrome extension reports the CPU data of the local system, not the server, when you do it like this. So if I were to do it from a Mac, it would report that it's folding with a GTX 1660 Super on a Mac with an i5-4278U CPU feeding it, rather than the Ryzen 5 3600 which is actually in the server. This is talked about a bit here:  "F@H Web Client Dark Skin with PPD comparison by GPU / WU" comment 15375038

Does it report your data as folding on Windows when you do it like this?

Yes

[rkv_2401]

Hey Spec, any updates on the gift cards? I sent you a PM a while ago, just wanted to check to see if I need to do anything else?

[GOTSpectrum]

 

[Shlouski]

On 6/25/2022 at 2:32 PM, rkv_2401 said:

Hey Spec, any updates on the gift cards? I sent you a PM a while ago, just wanted to check to see if I need to do anything else?

 

Your Key is safe so don't worry, you will get it.

 

I think Spec would prefer to hand out the prizes in an organized manner rather than having the donors give them out here and there.

[GOTSpectrum]

So bad news, todays stream went pretty terribly, good new I should be sorting prizes sometime today 

[justpoet]

On 6/26/2022 at 10:53 AM, GOTSpectrum said:

So bad news, todays stream went pretty terribly, good new I should be sorting prizes sometime today 

Just tell the stream to join the fold and even a bad stream is a good stream.

[RockSolid1106]

I'm folding on the world'sfastestcomputer!!!! I'll beat each one of you in just a matter of days!!!!

 

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Okay, I started to fold on my i5-3570 3.4GHz since I wasn't using it for the most of the day, and I fold at.. uhh.. FASTEST COMPUTER!!! about 30k PPD. I also added my old laptop to fold, which brings me just about 5k PPD more. I started folding about a month ago, and now I have about 800k points. At this rate, it's gonna take me at least 6 months to get to 5 Million.. Gonna try and keep this thing running for as long as possible, hope to get Contributor *cough* soon.

https://stats.foldingathome.org/donor/name/RockSolid1106

 

Cheers!

[gravitywave]

I've gone back to Windows 10 for folding, despite the PPD decrease, just for the higher reliability of RDP on Windows. I was able to connect to Ubuntu and Mint boxes before using RDP, but sometimes after a reboot it would fail, and nothing could fix it aside from me dragging a monitor downstairs and reinstalling the OS. In the end, I prefer the convenience and reliability to the higher PPD. 

 

On another note, I finally hit 2.5B! Unfortunately it's not all for the LTT team, so it'll still be a while before the next badge. 

[rkv_2401]

On 6/29/2022 at 1:11 AM, RockSolid1106 said:

I'm folding on the world'sfastestcomputer!!!! I'll beat each one of you in just a matter of days!!!!

 

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Okay, I started to fold on my i5-3570 3.4GHz since I wasn't using it for the most of the day, and I fold at.. uhh.. FASTEST COMPUTER!!! about 30k PPD.

 

I had an i5-3450 until a couple of years ago, that generation of CPUs aged like wine as far as PC components go

[rkv_2401]

Does anyone know how to get the beta WUs for GPU folding on an Iris Xe iGPU?

[BondiBlue]

What methods do you all use to access remote folding systems reliably? I normally use Parsec, but one of my systems seems to have some issues with that approach. It's a dual GPU system (Radeon R9 270 + Radeon RX 570), and it's running Windows 10 Pro. For whatever reason Parsec just doesn't want to work right on this machine, and it complains about the host not being able to encode video or not being able to capture the host screen. 

 

Also, would it be worth it to switch this system to Linux? I don't need it running Windows for anything in particular, so would Linux perform better or worse in terms of PPD? 

[Gorgon]

5 hours ago, BondiBlue said:

What methods do you all use to access remote folding systems reliably? I normally use Parsec, but one of my systems seems to have some issues with that approach. It's a dual GPU system (Radeon R9 270 + Radeon RX 570), and it's running Windows 10 Pro. For whatever reason Parsec just doesn't want to work right on this machine, and it complains about the host not being able to encode video or not being able to capture the host screen. 

 

Also, would it be worth it to switch this system to Linux? I don't need it running Windows for anything in particular, so would Linux perform better or worse in terms of PPD? 

I generally just use the Advanced Control Application and HfM.net to access remote folding systems (see the Remote access link in my sig). This works well for systems local to your network but can be a little more tricky to get setup securely for remote systems.

 

The vast majority of my rigs all run Linux (Ubuntu 22.04 LTS) as I find it easier to just use SSH to remotely manage them but it can be a bit of a steep learning curve.

 

In general these days there is not as much of a penalty running Windows as there used to be since NVIDIA made their drivers more performant. But then with Linux you can disable automatic updates and the OS tends to throw a lot less surprises at you than Windows tends to do.

 

Getting AMD GPUs working reliably under Linux can, however, be a bit more of a battle. Personally I just gave up on AMD under Linux as their OpenCL drivers are much less performant than NVIDIA's CUDA drivers. That, however, is a personal decision. Don't get me wrong, I love AMD and the competition they are providing both Intel and NVIDIA and use almost exclusively AMD CPUS I just don't have then energy to keep having to fight with their Linux GPU drivers.

[Captainmarino]

10 hours ago, Gorgon said:

I generally just use the Advanced Control Application and HfM.net to access remote folding systems (see the Remote access link in my sig). This works well for systems local to your network but can be a little more tricky to get setup securely for remote systems.

 

The vast majority of my rigs all run Linux (Ubuntu 22.04 LTS) as I find it easier to just use SSH to remotely manage them but it can be a bit of a steep learning curve.

 

In general these days there is not as much of a penalty running Windows as there used to be since NVIDIA made their drivers more performant. But then with Linux you can disable automatic updates and the OS tends to throw a lot less surprises at you than Windows tends to do.

 

Getting AMD GPUs working reliably under Linux can, however, be a bit more of a battle. Personally I just gave up on AMD under Linux as their OpenCL drivers are much less performant than NVIDIA's CUDA drivers. That, however, is a personal decision. Don't get me wrong, I love AMD and the competition they are providing both Intel and NVIDIA and use almost exclusively AMD CPUS I just don't have then energy to keep having to fight with their Linux GPU drivers.

I'm with Gorgon on the AMD/Linux combination. I have an R9 280 that I've tried to get working with various Linux distros off and on for two years now and have never been able to get the drivers to cooperate. It's a real pain in the tookus.

[justpoet]

4 hours ago, Captainmarino said:

I'm with Gorgon on the AMD/Linux combination.

This is a large part of why I CPU only fold on my linux boxes during events.

[RollinLower]

Add another 3080 to the fold!

Just cleaning the PCB for now, but the waterblok should arrive tomorrow.

[Bitter]

So I tried to buy a 1650 for a specific purpose where I needed a decent but slot powered card.... but got a 1650 Super instead, looks like someone swapped the sticker on the card and the seller didn't know the difference or never tested the card. LAR database makes it seem like the card does about 600K PPD at 100W and I do have a spare bit of hardware...

 

However it seems from skimming that things are still fairly broken for folding with Ubuntu Linux, yeah?  I've got a spare Win10 install on a lower power Ryzen system I can chuck the card into for some f@h action, but first I need to re-paste my 1660S mining cards and check that I'm correct that the better fin+heatpipes cooler from the single fan PNY/Palit cards will swap onto this Gigabyte 1650S board, looks like the same PCB layout. That'll get the card running much cooler and much more quiet, the stock fan has a very unpleasant drone.

[Gorgon]

1 hour ago, Bitter said:

... However it seems from skimming that things are still fairly broken for folding with Ubuntu Linux, yeah? ...

I'm running 6 systems with Ubuntu Desktop 22.04 LTS. It's definetltly NOT broken (at least for NVidia) systems with the exception of running the Control Application in a native GUI which can take a bit of effort to get the working as it uses deprecated Python libraries.

[Bitter]

30 minutes ago, Gorgon said:

I'm running 6 systems with Ubuntu Desktop 22.04 LTS. It's definetltly NOT broken (at least for NVidia) systems with the exception of running the Control Application in a native GUI which can take a bit of effort to get the working as it uses deprecated Python libraries.

Last time I messed with this I kept bumping into my P106 trying to become the display out device when I installed the Nvidia drivers or when I tried to enable overclocking, I forget which exactly. Seems like using a 1650 with display outs on it probably sidesteps the issue?

[Gorgon]

14 hours ago, Bitter said:

Last time I messed with this I kept bumping into my P106 trying to become the display out device when I installed the Nvidia drivers or when I tried to enable overclocking, I forget which exactly. Seems like using a 1650 with display outs on it probably sidesteps the issue?

It should

[LAR_Systems]

Hey Everyone,

 

The linked list might be of some help as the dropping GPU prices are putting more and more options out there for us to get, but you might want to know which ones are not going to cost you a fortune in power consumption over time.

 

Results are ranked to show the GPUs with best KWh cost per 1 million F@H points.

 

You can click on the GPUs name to see more details about the GPUs folding / power estimates and efficiency across different types of research.

 

Cheers

https://folding.lar.systems/gpu_ppd/overall_ranks_power_to_ppd

 

[DrabberFrog]

IDK if this is the right place to ask this (first time on the forum) Is it ok to run folding at home on my gaming laptop? I have a GE76 raider RTX 3060. I have the fans cranked but the temps are high, cpu is at 85-95 and gpu is at 75. Will I reduce the lifespan of my gaming laptop if I left it running 24/7? I want to be able to use this laptop for a pretty long time but I also want to use it for folding at home because my desktop is old and nowhere near as powerful. 

[rkv_2401]

1 hour ago, DrabberFrog said:

IDK if this is the right place to ask this (first time on the forum) Is it ok to run folding at home on my gaming laptop? I have a GE76 raider RTX 3060. I have the fans cranked but the temps are high, cpu is at 85-95 and gpu is at 75. Will I reduce the lifespan of my gaming laptop if I left it running 24/7? I want to be able to use this laptop for a pretty long time but I also want to use it for folding at home because my desktop is old and nowhere near as powerful. 

Don't do CPU folding, adds a lot of heat and power draw for not a lot of points

 

Undervolt and set a custom clock profile for your GPU if you want, although 75c is fine IMO

 

I was folding on an ultraportable for 2 years with the GPU at 83+c and nothing happened