FCC has voted to OVERTURN Net Neutrality

[WelshDdraig]

I'd like to start by saying I couldn't find anything in the Tech News Section - so if there is an original article, I apologise.

 

Sources: 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-39973787

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/05/net-neutrality-goes-down-in-flames-as-fcc-votes-to-kill-title-ii-rules/

 

Net Neutrality came into place in 2015 under the supervision of FCC Chair Man - Tom Wheeler.

Well, 2 years later, it has been removed under the new FCC advisor Ajit Pai.

 

The Commissioners at the FCC decided to vote 2:1 on whether or not to kill of Net Neutrality.

My Pai has said on multiple times that:

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an open internet harmed jobs and discouraged investment

My quick note: Excuse me? What????

 

For those who don't know what net neutrality is, oh I'm sorry, Was:

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Net neutrality is WAS the principle that Internet service providers and governments regulating the Internet should treat all data on the Internet the same, not discriminating or charging differentially by user, content, website, platform, application, type of attached equipment, or mode of communication

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After looking through multiple articles: it's more the fact that this was a preliminary vote,

A final vote is due later in the Year.

 

 

My thoughts:

WHAT THE ACTUAL F**K AMERICA?!?!?

Net Neutrality was a great thing. it allowed for more fairness in a market controlled by the few big ISPs

and allowed for all content to be delivered on an equal playing field - not a "Premium Fast Lane"

 

Also - Surprise, Surprise - Ajit Pai was actually "Associate General Counsel" at Verizon Communications, a company that has always been against Net Neutrality. 

Something which shows that ISP's will do anything to get out of the Title 2 classification where they can't charge for such services.

A chart found on the DailyDot website shows what companies are spending the most to dismantle Net Neutrality.

Spoiler

 

 

 

And I have a feeling that most of that went on Lobbying all members of the FCC / Governement who are against the FCC.

 

Here is another chart to show the momentum of which Lobbying has increased over Net Neutrality:

Spoiler

 

 

I honestly think lobbying should be made illegal since its basically putting wallets before what is in the best interest of the people.

Will it ever stop? No, not when there is money to be made - but it doesn't make it any more right.

 

 

Your Thoughts? Please Leave them down below!

[aisle9]

He looks like a talking penis with some kind of fungal disease.

[PlayStation 2]

I should stop repeating myself, but whatever.

Net neutrality did almost nothing. ISPs still screwed you in certain sites and your download speed.

[DocSwag]

1 minute ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

I should stop repeating myself, but whatever.

Net neutrality did almost nothing. ISPs still screwed you in certain sites and your download speed.

But it was illegal, and meant you could sue them.

[Oshino Shinobu]

What are the US and the UK doing? We seem to be being governed by complete morons who also happen to be evil. 

 

Here in the UK, we're facing China-esque regulation and censoring on what we can post/say on the internet if the Conservative Party is re-elected. We were making some good progress on utilising the internet to its potential as an open and unbiased medium for communication, information and all sorts of other things, yet now we're going in completely the opposite direction. 

 

 

[WelshDdraig]

Just now, Oshino Shinobu said:

 

 

Woops, wrong tick

That's what happens when you 've been up for 36 hours and fueled by RedBull due to final year exams.

[PlayStation 2]

2 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

But it was illegal, and meant you could sue them.

Have fun going through the lawyers of someone like NBC/Comcast.

[aisle9]

9 minutes ago, Alexp10v2 said:

 

I mean, seriously, I just want to draw a dildo slapping this guy right in the mouth. It looks so right. Like he's finally embraced the love of his own kind.

[Eaglerino]

Trump's administration is all about removing regulation, so I'm not very surprised. I'm a little saddened since this isn't what I wanted, but it hasn't made a difference to speeds and throttling in the area I moved from, and the area I recently moved into just gave me gigabit yesterday with no limits and no contracts required. Really sucks that the companies most prone to abusing this have their monopoly in the most populated parts of the USA. Hopefully more and more places get Verizon and AT&T gigabit, and hopefully Time Warner stops advertising 60Mbps as super speed

[mr moose]

you guys are so fucked over there.  You are no longer living in a free country, it's bought by the highest bidder and the politicians are bidding along side corporate America. 

[DocSwag]

6 minutes ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

Have fun going through the lawyers of someone like NBC/Comcast.

The point is, you can. Potentially get a lot of people together and chip in, and you might stand a chance. Now that's gone...

[PlayStation 2]

Just now, DocSwag said:

The point is, you can. Potentially get a lot of people together and chip in, and you might stand a chance. Now that's gone...

Well no one did it, and that's not my problem.

1 minute ago, mr moose said:

you guys are so fucked over there.  You are no longer living in a free country, it's bought by the highest bidder and the politicians are bidding along side corporate America. 

America really needs a whole reform. Both the Democrats and the Republicans are having a pissing contest and it's really getting annoying.

[DocSwag]

Just now, Dan Castellaneta said:

Well no one did it, and that's not my problem.

America really needs a whole reform. Both the Democrats and the Republicans are having a pissing contest and it's really getting annoying.

Were companies actually limiting it? I never heard of this...

 

I thought I heard about someone, maybe Comcast, doing something with Netflix but I'm not 100% sure on that.

[PlayStation 2]

Just now, DocSwag said:

Were companies actually limiting it? I never heard of this...

 

I thought I heard about someone, maybe Comcast, doing something with Netflix but I'm not 100% sure on that.

Comcast is one of the worst offenders of it. From what I've seen and heard they basically limited Netflix's download speeds basically for no real reason.

[outercry]

8 minutes ago, Oshino Shinobu said:

What are the US and the UK doing? We seem to be being governed by complete morons who also happen to be evil. 

 

Here in the UK, we're facing China-esque regulation and censoring on what we can post/say on the internet if the Conservative Party is re-elected. We were making some good progress on utilising the internet to its potential as an open and unbiased medium for communication, information and all sorts of other things, yet now we're going in completely the opposite direction. 

 

 

This is exactly what I thought, when I heard May's proposal. When the government gets to regulate the internet, there will be selective censorship in place, aka, what suits them. She can talk all she wants about hate speech, terrorism and the usual, but the truth is, if they get back in and implement this, bye bye free internet. No more real news, no more are you allowed to speak your mind (well, you might be able to, but nobody can actually see/find it online).

 

It is exactly like you said, China-like situation, where you can't find information online about certain historical events etc, and probably nothing negative about their adminstartion either.

 

Good luck trying to find unbiased and negative opinions about the Convervative party if this is implemented.

Also, they keep on about banning?? porn or something, what in the hell is that going to achieve? I know, rape-rates going up, that's what.

[Billy_Mays]

Oh boy hopefully America is fixed when I want to move to Cali 

[DocSwag]

5 minutes ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

Comcast is one of the worst offenders of it. From what I've seen and heard they basically limited Netflix's download speeds basically for no real reason.

Just checked and yeah, don't think they got sued.

 

Thing is though, now it means the ISPs can throttle stuff and not have any consequence. Before, they couldn't take it too far or there would be repercussions. Now, there are none. I wouldn't be too surprised if we might see more stuff throttled.

[DrMacintosh]

Well what can you expect from my country?

 

Look at who we elected, that gives you a decent idea on what the electorate is like here. These are the things that happen when a country legalizes bribery and deregulates. 

[Drak3]

3 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Before, they couldn't take it too far or there would be repercussions. Now, there are none. I wouldn't be too surprised if we might see more stuff throttled.

No, they couldn't charge companies to avoid throttling. They were free to throttle all they wanted otherwise, and when it comes right down to it, most consumers have zero idea if the content is being artificially throttled or if there is a bottleneck somewhere during peak usage hours on the servers that they're accessing.

[Demonking]

Bernie or bust. well the bust just killed a free & open internet. They couldn't just hold their nose & voted for shillary. 

[SpaceGhostC2C]

20 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

The point is, you can. Potentially get a lot of people together and chip in, and you might stand a chance. Now that's gone...

You don't have to. Net neutrality benefits consumers, but it's not directly about consumers. It is about keeping a leveled field for content providers.

The idea that it would be "you vs. Verizon" is ridiculous. Under net neutrality, it would be Netflix vs. Verizon, Google vs. Comcast, etc., since the infringement would be to take money from Google for throttling Netflix and speeding up Youtube, and the like. Not to mention the ISPs that also act as cable TV suppliers.

 

They are not removing consumer protection directly, they are fucking up competition policy and allowing for all sorts of market failures. We'll suffer the consequences indirectly down the line.

[Bleedingyamato]

33 minutes ago, Alexp10v2 said:

Woops, wrong tick

That's what happens when you 've been up for 36 hours and fueled by RedBull due to final year exams.

Redbull?   Ewww...  Sorry.  I tried that once.  It was disgusting.  I'll take monster or even icky black coffee over redbull.  lol

 

30 minutes ago, aisle9 said:

I mean, seriously, I just want to draw a dildo slapping this guy right in the mouth. It looks so right. Like he's finally embraced the love of his own kind.

Do it.  You know you want to.  ?

[PlayStation 2]

29 minutes ago, Billy_Mays said:

Oh boy hopefully America is fixed when I want to move to Cali 

California, the most cucked and most expensive state in the United States. Unsurprisingly, it's also very smug in the large cities and is in literal trillions (or at least hundreds of millions) of debt, last I remember.

[Soonercoop]

While this is not fantastic and all, there are far worse things happening in America right now than this. Net neutrality wasn't a thing for very long and it was literally useless for the vast majority of individual citizens. I would be far more worried about the great internet wall rising in the UK because it actually will limit "internet freedom". Hopefully the next time the blue team takes office they will create regulatory legislation that actually benefits the end consumer. 

 

I would also like everyone to keep in mind that the FCC considered overturning Net Neutrality under the last administration. It doesn't matter which party is in office, the big companies will prevent real legislation from existing because the politicians in these agencies have a monetary interest in them regardless of ideological stance.

[DrMacintosh]

18 minutes ago, Demonking said:

Bernie or bust. well the bust just killed a free & open internet. They couldn't just hold their nose & voted for shillary. 

Agreed. The people bought into the Fox news and CNN agenda. Until now.....