Nvidia Keynote at CES

[Guest Kloaked]

4 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

So why do only some monitors support Freesync???

Because they have to support VESA's Adaptive Sync, which has a hardware requirement. They're both using a scaler on roids so to speak to make this possible.

[App4that]

3 minutes ago, Fetzie said:

You topic got nuked because there is already a thread on the nVidia keynote, and your post didn't follow the news thread guidelines

I was intoxicated. Soooo.

 

3 minutes ago, Kloaked said:

They do have Adaptive Sync hardware. It's not just software. FreeSync may just be software but it's still using VESA's Adaptive Sync standard that is only available in certain monitors.

That's close, so we'll say close. 

[Fetzie]

2 minutes ago, DarkBlade2117 said:

Tbh maybe Nvidia just won't release a 1080Ti. They've got some good reason to which is putting that focus towards Volta.  I still stand with my statement of AMD would be utterly fucking stupid to release Vega 6-7 months, probably closer to 8-9 months once it is actually released and have it be on-par with Pascal. They'd be pure fucking idiots and it would ruin them. Vega has to be at MINIMUM in my eyes 15% faster then Vega at good price points such as the $400 Vega card has to be at least 15% faster then the 1070 to be considered a successful launch.

See here for the Battlefront comparison:

15 hours ago, 3DOSH said:

Star Wars Battlefront 4K Ultra. Locked to 60 fps.
 

 

Thats well above GTX1080

[NumLock21]

30 minutes ago, Fetzie said:

I did, filter the thread for my posts

Can't find it.

Anyway he talked about gaming, which included GeForce with Facebook Live, GeForce Now, is that also GeForce Demand? Next up was AI, Nvidia Spot, Nvidia Shield with Google Assist with that odd demo commerical. And AI for cars and partnering with Bosch and Audi. He was known for putting the most exciting thing for last, but the moment he mentioned about GeForce Now, there is a strong feeling, the GTX 1080Ti won't be announced because that $25 or 20 hours in the long run will cost more than the GTX1080Ti, so he can't announce the GPU. MSRP for GTX 980Ti was $650. The other thing is, the audience over there are adults who probably cares less about gaming.

[Guest Kloaked]

1 minute ago, App4that said:

That's close, so we'll say close. 

"Close"?? They're both using a beefed up scaler that wasn't available before. It's literally the same thing.

[App4that]

1 minute ago, Fetzie said:

See here for the Battlefront comparison:

 

 

Yeah, but settings  and bla bla bla. There's a reason AMD used a Pascal Titan X for the New Horizons announcement. 

[DarkBlade2117]

1 minute ago, Fetzie said:

See here for the Battlefront comparison:

 

 

IS that going off of what they showed at the Ryzen lineup? That isn't enough information, I'll go by what they show tomorrow but if they release a GPU that does 4k60FPS Max settings with minimal dips, I'd say minimum of 45-50FPS then that is very successful to me.

[Energycore]

2 minutes ago, Fetzie said:

See here for the Battlefront comparison:

 

 

To be fair we don't know the settings but yeah

[DarkBlade2117]

1 minute ago, App4that said:

Yeah, but settings  and bla bla bla. There's a reason AMD used a Pascal Titan X for the New Horizons announcement. 

So they didn't giveaway to much info on Vega at the time and could of been heavily unstable at the time?

[App4that]

1 minute ago, Kloaked said:

"Close"?? They're both using a beefed up scaler that wasn't available before. It's literally the same thing.

Freesync don't not allow the graphics card to control the monitor. That's GSYNC. 

[leadeater]

Just now, App4that said:

True, latency is just lower than Freesync. To a close to imperceptible degree. 

 

With the current monitors on the market today I would actually say the latency difference is low enough to be perceived, or at least it shows in the greater range of frame rate it works at. As a Gen 1 technology going with a G-Sync chip was probably a smart move as you have greater control over the processes and can better guarantee good usability results.

 

The down side as we all know is the increased cost in monitors and the eventual issue that the G-Sync chip well become outdated, at that point if I was Nvidia I would then look at adopting the industry standard which by then will be more refined than it is now/when G-Sync was launched.

[Notional]

5 minutes ago, App4that said:

True, latency is just lower than Freesync. To a close to imperceptible degree. 

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Actually, Freesync tends to have lower latency than Gsync:

 

[App4that]

1 minute ago, DarkBlade2117 said:

So they didn't giveaway to much info on Vega at the time and could of been heavily unstable at the time?

You didn't see Ryzen shit the bed and hitch? Watch it again. I giggled. 

[dragoon20005]

Oh almost forget

 

Geforce Now = Netflix for Geforce

 

pay 25 bucks for 20 hours of gameplay

 

that is 750 dollar per month! = a semi decent gaming PC

 

my broadband is way cheaper!

[App4that]

1 minute ago, Notional said:

Actually, Freesync tends to have lower latency than Gsync

 

I love Linus, I have great respect for him as an entertainer. But he also has a video on how RAM speed doesn't effect gaming.

 

So, you cannot cite Linus. 

[App4that]

1 minute ago, dragoon20005 said:

 

that is 750 dollar per month! = a semi decent gaming PC

 

HEY! Someone else notice it was at 1080p! 

[Notional]

2 minutes ago, Energycore said:

To be fair we don't know the settings but yeah

http://videocardz.com/65343/amd-demos-star-wars-battlefront-on-ryzen-and-vega-at-ces2017 Yes we do.

 

1 minute ago, App4that said:

I love Linus, I have great respect for him as an entertainer. But he also has a video on how RAM speed doesn't effect gaming.

 

So, you cannot cite Linus. 

 

Of course I can. We see how he tests it, and the test seems completely valid. But if you think Gsync has a LOWER latency than Freesync, feel free to provide som proof.

[Guest Kloaked]

5 minutes ago, App4that said:

Freesync don't not allow the graphics card to control the monitor. That's GSYNC. 

I thought this whole thing was about whether or not there is a hardware difference between a non freesync monitor and a freesync monitor.

[Energycore]

4 minutes ago, Notional said:

Actually, Freesync tends to have lower latency than Gsync:

 

That's a flawed notion. Different monitors have different input lag, and that's even in the Freesync / Gsync version of the same panel (take for instane, the AOC G2460PF which has more input lag than the G2460PQU). So actually, that particular Freesync monitor has less input lag than that particular Gsync monitor.

Yes, Linus's methodology is wrong there, what a shocker

[dragoon20005]

1 minute ago, App4that said:

HEY! Someone else notice it was at 1080p! 

my 750 bucks PC can play 1440P!

 

rekt!

 

Japan already gonna release this

 

 

 

I take this over the nVidia offering

[App4that]

3 minutes ago, Notional said:

http://videocardz.com/65343/amd-demos-star-wars-battlefront-on-ryzen-and-vega-at-ces2017 Yes we do.

 

Of course I can. We see how he tests it, and the test seems completely valid. But if you think Gsync has a LOWER latency than Freesync, feel free to provide som proof.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2974781/displays/g-sync-vs-freesync-faq-how-variable-refresh-rate-displays-make-pc-games-super-smooth.html

[shermantanker]

30 minutes ago, Kloaked said:

If they're even going to release a 1080 Ti or whatever it'll be called, it will be closer toward summer at some conference like Computex or GDC.

Yeah, I figured as much. GDC makes sense, but that doesn't make me stop wishing for sooner

[rattacko123]

tl;dr summary in op?

[App4that]

2 minutes ago, Kloaked said:

I thought this whole thing was about whether or not there is a hardware difference between a non freesync monitor and a freesync monitor.

I think this is a issue of semantics and I guaranty you have the sobriety advantage here. 

 

There is no Freesync chip, module, or thingamabob. My point

[Techicolors]

so was the 1080Ti announced or not?